Conquer Club

lozzini wrote:i like how i can now see what rank every poster is, and it suprises me, everyone who posts in ther forums are high ranking premiums, just makes me feel even worse lol

You are not alone!

Shatners Bassoon wrote:I've worked really hard over the last few weeks to secure lieutenant status to now shoot up to captain,it feels hollow and fake;and now the elusive diamond feels somewhat cheapened.

amen... amen, my diamond brother... we are both nothing but cheap whores, mascarading as something we are not... sigh...-0

The actual rank you have is arbitrary, in my opinion. Just because you made captain or major out to be some big deal doesn't mean anything really changed. You are still ranked _______(insert number) on this site, and whether we call them all privates or colonels that won't change.

Riazor wrote:

DiM wrote:the idea is good in theory. new people advancing quicker in ranks = happy customers.
BUT (a big but) it was implemented horribly. i used to be proud to have achieved a rank of major and one of my goals was to be a colonel. now every former major is a colonel. and not only were all ranks cheapened by the inflation now they're even more cheapened by this measure. so the new ranks suck.

what should have been done was the introduction of a few intermediary ranks. this allows new players to advance quicker and it also keeps the old ranks in place so that we can still have the same goals.

I have to agree with DiM here. I recently demoted to captain, but now im major again without doing anything
Maybe it's still the same, but now you have to aim for a rank higher, i dont know...

But, adding a few ranks in between, while letting the "usual" ranks stay, or even raise a bit with 100 pts wouldve been better, imho.

DiM and Riazor both raise excellent points. I agree that an intermediate rank will be warranted soon as the CC population continues to expand. I feel like many people have commented about their ranks (and goals of desired ranks), but no one has mentioned the dispersion that is necessary to distinguish among players. The lower ranks are closer together because there are more players in each point spread. The arrangement of the ranks must be focused on fairly spreading players out in a positively skewed distribution. What you are (or were) is superfluous to where you are in rank order.

Best,
LMR

qwert wrote:

New Recruit
Cook
Cadet
Private -1000
Private 1st Class-1100
Specialist-1200 ---------------- new
Corporal-1300
Corporal 1st Class-1400
Sergeant-1500
Staff Sergeant -1600 ------ new
Sergeant 1st Class-1700
Sergeant Major-1800 ------------ new
Officer Candidate -2000----------- new
Lieutenant-2200
Captain- 2400
Major-2600
Lieutenant Colonel-3000 --------- new
Colonel-4000
Brigadier-4500pt
General-5000 pt
Field Marshall -6000pt

Well if you ask me i will add new 5 ranks,and put 6000 point for Field Marshal,and 5000 point for General.

great idea, I would just change colonel to 3500, and bridgadier to 4000 but keep all else the same

hideaway wrote:The actual rank you have is arbitrary, in my opinion. Just because you made captain or major out to be some big deal doesn't mean anything really changed. You are still ranked _______(insert number) on this site, and whether we call them all privates or colonels that won't change.

Quite true... just take some time to get used to it

I remember the shock when I got demoted from Colonel to Captain last year when the scoring system changed the first time, it was a shock to see a new rank today but a bit less of one I guess

The guys who have been around long enough to remember the older rankings (and in fact I think there may have been even older rankings in the early stages of 2006?) will remember that colonel used to be the rank most good players aspired to (with general a pipedream at 3000 - pre point inflation ). Then we switched our expectations to Captain/Major and now it looks like it shifts back to Major/Colonel...

In the words of the bard:

'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
What's Montague? it is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call'd,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name,
And for that name which is no part of thee
Take all myself.

Aim for fun and achievements on this site and not for a name, it's not so important

Genghis Khan CA wrote:In the words of the bard

The_Bard is 0-20 against me... i don't really care what he has to say about rank. dude straight up sucks.-0

Genghis Khan CA wrote:

hideaway wrote:The actual rank you have is arbitrary, in my opinion. Just because you made captain or major out to be some big deal doesn't mean anything really changed. You are still ranked _______(insert number) on this site, and whether we call them all privates or colonels that won't change.

Quite true... just take some time to get used to it

I remember the shock when I got demoted from Colonel to Captain last year when the scoring system changed the first time, it was a shock to see a new rank today but a bit less of one I guess

The guys who have been around long enough to remember the older rankings (and in fact I think there may have been even older rankings in the early stages of 2006?) will remember that colonel used to be the rank most good players aspired to (with general a pipedream at 3000 - pre point inflation ). Then we switched our expectations to Captain/Major and now it looks like it shifts back to Major/Colonel...

In the words of the bard:

'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
What's Montague? it is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call'd,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name,
And for that name which is no part of thee
Take all myself.

Aim for fun and achievements on this site and not for a name, it's not so important

Your not the only one who got a shock last year. I had reached 1400 points - the old captain boundary and was just on the verge of patting myself on the back. I came back from holiday and found myself a corporal!

But I worked hard and got my star back. I was on course for major and then I hit a blip but all of a sudden I've got it by doing sweet f*ck all.

I guess losing 200 points in 3 hours was punishment for resting on my newly unearned undeserved laurels

It give me the false impression of someone's ability -.-

I say field marshall should stay at 5k. We have enough point inflation already.

I like my hat

wait... damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.. .the captains games are majors games now and major games are colonel games....

i litterally just changed the name to captains games not more than two months ago....

but still... i like my hat

I don't think CC ranking clearly tells you how good/bad you are at playing the game, so to me, the new rankings isn't something to like or dislike because in my opinion, it still doesn't go in depth about how good/are we really are.

Genghis Khan CA wrote:

hideaway wrote:The actual rank you have is arbitrary, in my opinion. Just because you made captain or major out to be some big deal doesn't mean anything really changed. You are still ranked _______(insert number) on this site, and whether we call them all privates or colonels that won't change.

Quite true... just take some time to get used to it

I remember the shock when I got demoted from Colonel to Captain last year when the scoring system changed the first time, it was a shock to see a new rank today but a bit less of one I guess

The guys who have been around long enough to remember the older rankings (and in fact I think there may have been even older rankings in the early stages of 2006?) will remember that colonel used to be the rank most good players aspired to (with general a pipedream at 3000 - pre point inflation ). Then we switched our expectations to Captain/Major and now it looks like it shifts back to Major/Colonel...

In the words of the bard:

'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
What's Montague? it is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call'd,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name,
And for that name which is no part of thee
Take all myself.

Aim for fun and achievements on this site and not for a name, it's not so important

BIll sure does have a way with words-- eh

Pedronicus wrote:They should of adjusted the ranks up only if you are a girl.

Girls are shit at risk and they need additional help.

what has happened here... when i sober up there is gonna be hell to pay for such insolence...

pedro... I AM GOING TO KILL YOU.... hehehee






dammm it... where is the send button??? oh there it is,,, right below me...

I wish I could have abstained for this question..

The new rankings may objectively be better. However I still would have liked to gain the rank of Major on the battlefield, rather than as an overnight batch update on a server. It's just not the same feeling.

New ranks are not good if you ask me. Back to where they were!

EmperorOfDaNorth wrote:I wish I could have abstained for this question..

The new rankings may objectively be better. However I still would have liked to gain the rank of Major on the battlefield, rather than as an overnight batch update on a server. It's just not the same feeling.

Agreed! The "hat" just doesn't seem the same. Cheapened!

Old way was better. When you make the game to easy it becomes nothing more than free handouts. Sure it feels good to rise in rank but it is nothing more than a flase sense of security.

whitestazn88 wrote:i liked the older ones. it was something to strive for. like i wanted to get to lieutenant which was 1800 points back then, and i would have felt accomplished.. now its just bastardized. i should still be corporal 1st class

lol with the new rankinkgs you can't even make it to lieutenant

but i also like the old ranking better, but well, now i'll be captain instead of lieutenant, just my goal will be major then... (well swords look cooler then diamonds anyways so...)

Splash_x wrote:It give me the false impression of someone's ability -.-

shhh i'm really that skilled

I voted old ones... before I thought sergeant and up were ones you can count on to be skilled... now I have to think they could just be corp. 1st class and are just lucky players, so now I have to think sergeant 1st class is skilled...

if you know me, changing my original train of thought is a long path to take... I'll get it down by the next time they change ranks back to the old way again

Top Dog wrote:I voted old ones... before I thought sergeant and up were ones you can count on to be skilled... now I have to think they could just be corp. 1st class and are just lucky players, so now I have to think sergeant 1st class is skilled...

if you know me, changing my original train of thought is a long path to take... I'll get it down by the next time they change ranks back to the old way again

WAIT!!! aren't you the same guy that started a thread called, "hey, i like the new scoring" and posted this as a reason for the new scoring being so awesome:

Top Dog wrote:Now I can say I was a sergeant not just corp. 1st class I dunno why he changed it... now more and more lucky noobs/newbs can get a nice rank from several doodle assassin games...

same dude that took me to task for disagreeing with you?!!! ha!!!! this is classic!!-0

lol I ummm.... am unsure of myself... I like that I get an advantage from this deal but not others that get the same advantage... Hey! Lackattack! could you make it so this advantage only works for me? I liked them like they were before I just posted the other thread because.... I dunno actually, at first I liked them but after thinking about it I changed my mind! is that a good enough answer for you?! you happy?!

the old ones were harder to obtain, the new ones may be a little more realistically and closer to what the orignal actually was back in 2006

These is how will i create new ranks and scoring sistem. High ranks hard to get.