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Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:56 pm
by Optimus Prime
Thanks for the new info guys, list updated.

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:04 pm
by what,me worry?
This only makes sense if you map the special medals i.e. the map making, special contribution and whatever the other one is, all void. Or at least max them out to count as 3 per medal awarded. Not really fair if someone who has made 12 maps but doesnt play risk at all beats someone who's been here for years.

So I would like to make a motion to only let each medal count as 3 max to even out the playing field since the max on any other medal is 3 any way.

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:08 pm
by wcaclimbing
what,me worry? wrote:This only makes sense if you map the special medals i.e. the map making, special contribution and whatever the other one is, all void. Or at least max them out to count as 3 per medal awarded. Not really fair if someone who has made 12 maps but doesnt play risk at all beats someone who's been here for years.

So I would like to make a motion to only let each medal count as 3 max to even out the playing field since the max on any other medal is 3 any way.
OP has 30 tournament medals.
G1's totals would drop to 9.6 if none of his tournament medals counted.

I agree with what you are saying. If I made a usergroup with only mapmakers and tournament organizers, it would stomp every one of you guys in the totals :roll:

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:31 pm
by Optimus Prime
If you guys want to go make a list that discounts the contribution medals go right ahead. I made this list to include ALL medals, and clearly, my tournament medals are not drastically skewing the number in our clan's favor now are they?

There are gameplay medals, and contribution medals, both of them count for the purposes of this list.

It isn't some type of fancy official list, it is just a curiosity. There is no reason we need to get all detailed and restrictive about it. Some clans get their medals through gameplay, others through a mix, and others through contributions.

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:36 pm
by what,me worry?
Then you should make two seperate lists then. one would include your "special" medals which have no limit

the other would include the regular medals that have a limit of 3 to max out.

Thats the only way it should be done. You cant compare the two types because one is capped and the other kind does not have a cap.

I know you are pulling for including all medals but its hard to see you as a neutral moderator when you have 30 of the special kind alone.

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:39 pm
by Optimus Prime
what,me worry? wrote:Then you should make two seperate lists then. one would include your "special" medals which have no limit

the other would include the regular medals that have a limit of 3 to max out.

Thats the only way it should be done. You cant compare the two types because one is capped and the other kind does not have a cap.

I know you are pulling for including all medals but its hard to see you as a neutral moderator when you have 30 of the special kind alone.
I think you are attempting to take this list far more seriously than it is intended.

There isn't a real reason why I would want to spend the extra time to sort all of that out. I made the list as a way to satisfy my curiosity, not to be official in any way.

And... what does me being a neutral moderator have to do with anything regarding this list?

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:47 pm
by what,me worry?
by neutral moderator i mean your the person who made the thread, tallying up the medals, and submitting the results. Hence your the mod of the thread......

And im not taking this seriously as the dragoons arnt even on the list. I could care less.

Im just making a point that if you want to make something like this at least make it so it doesnt screw one group of users for the smaller good of the map makers. And if you havnt noticed on CC, any list that can be made into a competition will be made. notice the top 5's or any other list.

Im sure that most, if not all of CC would agree with me on my point. If your trying to make a list for fun, move it to the social forums where it wont be mistaken for a legitimate list

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:55 pm
by owenshooter
barterer2002 wrote:Big O?

Top five list of nicknames for Optimus Prime

1. OP
2. Opie
3. Prime
4. C
5. Big O
um, blitz was talking to me... i'm the Big O... optimus knows what his nickname is with me, and i shall not divulge it... however, it deals with his multi account.. *cough* *cough*...-0

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:37 pm
by hulmey
what,me worry? wrote:by neutral moderator i mean your the person who made the thread, tallying up the medals, and submitting the results. Hence your the mod of the thread......

And im not taking this seriously as the dragoons arnt even on the list. I could care less.

Im just making a point that if you want to make something like this at least make it so it doesnt screw one group of users for the smaller good of the map makers. And if you havnt noticed on CC, any list that can be made into a competition will be made. notice the top 5's or any other list.

Im sure that most, if not all of CC would agree with me on my point. If your trying to make a list for fun, move it to the social forums where it wont be mistaken for a legitimate list
i agree

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:47 pm
by lhotaling
Clans? What the H _ _ _ are you talking about?

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:35 pm
by AAFitz
OP, dont let them get to you.

I for one dont care if you stack the deck with your fake medals... :D

yes... im joking

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:38 pm
by Bones2484
what,me worry? wrote:by neutral moderator i mean your the person who made the thread, tallying up the medals, and submitting the results. Hence your the mod of the thread......

And im not taking this seriously as the dragoons arnt even on the list. I could care less.

Im just making a point that if you want to make something like this at least make it so it doesnt screw one group of users for the smaller good of the map makers. And if you havnt noticed on CC, any list that can be made into a competition will be made. notice the top 5's or any other list.

Im sure that most, if not all of CC would agree with me on my point. If your trying to make a list for fun, move it to the social forums where it wont be mistaken for a legitimate list
No one is stopping you from making your own thread with your own rules. Go for it.

Also, saying that you "could care less" implies that you do care.

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:03 pm
by owenshooter
AAFitz wrote:OP, dont let them get to you.

I for one dont care if you stack the deck with your fake medals... :D

yes... im joking
well, that is my big question. how can he count medals he has not been awarded?
can i count medals that i feel i have been slighted out of? for instance, my community
merit badge or whatever that boy scout sounding medal is.. can i count that one? just
seems like a bastardized list if people can count medals that they haven't been given by
CC...-0

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:06 pm
by AAFitz
when they agree to give out random pita medals, you can indeed count the 15 you would receive.. till then, youll have to make some maps, make some tourneys, or actually contribute to the site in a very meaningful way...

in other words... you may want to just play more assasin games or something :D

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:19 pm
by owenshooter
AAFitz wrote:when they agree to give out random pita medals, you can indeed count the 15 you would receive.. till then, youll have to make some maps, make some tourneys, or actually contribute to the site in a very meaningful way...

in other words... you may want to just play more assasin games or something :D
did you mean PITY medals? they have plans for those? sweet... and why assasin games? i was thinking more along the lines of speed doodle earth terminator games!! then i can get some medals and ask the leader of my clan to come join this ego stroke fest!!!-0

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:27 pm
by Gozar
wcaclimbing wrote: If I made a usergroup with only mapmakers and tournament organizers, it would stomp every one of you guys in the totals :roll:
Go for it! :D

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:41 pm
by what,me worry?
Bones2484 wrote:
what,me worry? wrote:by neutral moderator i mean your the person who made the thread, tallying up the medals, and submitting the results. Hence your the mod of the thread......

And im not taking this seriously as the dragoons arnt even on the list. I could care less.

Im just making a point that if you want to make something like this at least make it so it doesnt screw one group of users for the smaller good of the map makers. And if you havnt noticed on CC, any list that can be made into a competition will be made. notice the top 5's or any other list.

Im sure that most, if not all of CC would agree with me on my point. If your trying to make a list for fun, move it to the social forums where it wont be mistaken for a legitimate list
No one is stopping you from making your own thread with your own rules. Go for it.

Also, saying that you "could care less" implies that you do care.


read back to the part where it says MY CLAN ( THE IMPERIAL DRAGOONS) ARNT EVEN ON THIS LIST

for fucks sake do people even read the threads any more these days or just post with their thumbs up their asses. :roll:

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:33 pm
by Night Strike
what,me worry? wrote:If your trying to make a list for fun, move it to the social forums where it wont be mistaken for a legitimate list
I thought this was a social forum??
Board Index wrote:General Discussion
Talk about all things related to Conquer Club
This list has everything to do with Conquer Club, so of course it belongs here. It would be spam anywhere else.

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:17 pm
by Optimus Prime
owenshooter wrote:
AAFitz wrote:OP, dont let them get to you.

I for one dont care if you stack the deck with your fake medals... :D

yes... im joking
well, that is my big question. how can he count medals he has not been awarded?
can i count medals that i feel i have been slighted out of? for instance, my community
merit badge or whatever that boy scout sounding medal is.. can i count that one? just
seems like a bastardized list if people can count medals that they haven't been given by
CC...-0
Ummm... I have been awarded all of my medals to this point. I'm not short any at this time. In a week, yeah, I will be because the system still isn't able to count that high, but it really isn't that big of a deal. I've been given every medal I've earned. ;)

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:14 am
by hulmey
Optimus Prime wrote:
owenshooter wrote:
AAFitz wrote:OP, dont let them get to you.

I for one dont care if you stack the deck with your fake medals... :D

yes... im joking
well, that is my big question. how can he count medals he has not been awarded?
can i count medals that i feel i have been slighted out of? for instance, my community
merit badge or whatever that boy scout sounding medal is.. can i count that one? just
seems like a bastardized list if people can count medals that they haven't been given by
CC...-0
Ummm... I have been awarded all of my medals to this point. I'm not short any at this time. In a week, yeah, I will be because the system still isn't able to count that high, but it really isn't that big of a deal. I've been given every medal I've earned. ;)
maybe you should also have a list without medals earned from map and tournament?

A map medal is worth far more than 1 tounrament medal. Maps take more than 6 months to go through the foundry and hours and hours of work!!! Not to mention debates and postings....

When i started Best Clan by points, I listened to the community and adapted the list to input from clan members. Maybe you should try doing the same!?!?!

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:15 am
by Bones2484
what,me worry? wrote: read back to the part where it says MY CLAN ( THE IMPERIAL DRAGOONS) ARNT EVEN ON THIS LIST

for fucks sake do people even read the threads any more these days or just post with their thumbs up their asses. :roll:
What is your point? I don't follow.

OP is not the one calculating all the data, people are submitting it to him.

Or, if your point is that you don't care and that's why the Dragoons arent listed, then perhaps you should take your own advice and read my post. Saying "I could care less" does NOT imply that you don't care about the topic at hand. Actually, it means that you DO care. Perhaps you meant that you "couldn't care less"?

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:15 am
by Bones2484
hulmey wrote:maybe you should also have a list without medals earned from map and tournament?
Perhaps you can make your own thread with your own list with your own qualifications for what counts and what doesn't?

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:17 am
by hulmey
Bones2484 wrote:
hulmey wrote:maybe you should also have a list without medals earned from map and tournament?
Perhaps you can make your own thread with your own list with your own qualifications for what counts and what doesn't?
why you getting defensive? Cant you take constructive critiscim?

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:18 am
by Optimus Prime
hulmey wrote:
Optimus Prime wrote:
owenshooter wrote:
AAFitz wrote:OP, dont let them get to you.

I for one dont care if you stack the deck with your fake medals... :D

yes... im joking
well, that is my big question. how can he count medals he has not been awarded?
can i count medals that i feel i have been slighted out of? for instance, my community
merit badge or whatever that boy scout sounding medal is.. can i count that one? just
seems like a bastardized list if people can count medals that they haven't been given by
CC...-0
Ummm... I have been awarded all of my medals to this point. I'm not short any at this time. In a week, yeah, I will be because the system still isn't able to count that high, but it really isn't that big of a deal. I've been given every medal I've earned. ;)
maybe you should also have a list without medals earned from map and tournament?

A map medal is worth far more than 1 tounrament medal. Maps take more than 6 months to go through the foundry and hours and hours of work!!! Not to mention debates and postings....

When i started Best Clan by points, I listened to the community and adapted the list to input from clan members. Maybe you should try doing the same!?!?!
I'm not going to have the argument with you about whether or not tournament medals or map medals are more important. It's not worth taking the time with you, hulmey.

As for your Best Clan by points, you wanted it to be some sort of officialish type of thing. I don't. Simple as that.

Re: Medals by Clan: A Comparison

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:31 am
by Bones2484
hulmey wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
hulmey wrote:maybe you should also have a list without medals earned from map and tournament?
Perhaps you can make your own thread with your own list with your own qualifications for what counts and what doesn't?
why you getting defensive? Cant you take constructive critiscim?
I'm not defensive. It's a simple suggestion. If you dont like how OP is doing his thread, you are perfectly able of doing your own! :)