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HapSmo19 wrote:Ron Paul represented change.

He also represented nutbar.

Dancing Mustard wrote:

HapSmo19 wrote:Ron Paul represented change.

He also represented nutbar.

I don't think so. I don't think he was so far off from what we need.

Juan_Bottom wrote:

Dancing Mustard wrote:

HapSmo19 wrote:Ron Paul represented change.

He also represented nutbar.

I don't think so. I don't think he was so far off from what we need.

Wow, this exact exchange occurred on the streets of Berlin, 1933, when Hitler was still only the Chancellor, and hadn't yet declared himself Dictator for Life.

Just swap the names and presto!

Nobunaga wrote:

pimpdave wrote:

pimpdave wrote: Aggressive Reporter Picks on the Wrong Mark

Did no one watch that video? Did Derrick's reasoning finally silence all of you neocons? I'm sure you can flip out and find some way to counter it with a bunch of ridiculous, unsubstantiated claims.

... Hey, Pimp, you an Obama supporter? Tell us why, and be specific. (and no, "He's not a neocon" is not specific.)

... War, immigration, gas prices, huge national debt - hit on those in your answer.

....

I basically gave you the reasoning, in that video. But since that provided too good of an answer, I suppose you have to repeat the question and hope I"m somehow not specific in my answer this time around.

So I will be very specific:

No, I will not tell you why. Nor will I tell you who I support for President (wicked for President!!!).

pimpdave wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:

Dancing Mustard wrote:

HapSmo19 wrote:Ron Paul represented change.

He also represented nutbar.

I don't think so. I don't think he was so far off from what we need.

Wow, this exact exchange occurred on the streets of Berlin, 1933, when Hitler was still only the Chancellor, and hadn't yet declared himself Dictator for Life.

Just swap the names and presto!

Did you just call Dr. Ron Paul

Hitler?

Juan_Bottom wrote: Did you just call Dr. Ron Paul

Hitler?

NO.

I called Hitler as representing nutbar.

Don't reverse the polarity Batman! It'll skew your linear reasoning skills!

Ron Paul is not Hitler. Ron Paul is Magneto.


Magneto would be a worse president than Hitler. Case closed. Don't vote Ron Paul, AKA Magneto.

Well, when you consider that republicans have re-defined conservativism as being almost exclusively the far right (and further, more often the religious far right, too boot!) It is absolutely no wonder these liberals are so prevalent.

If Ronald Reagan were alive right now, HE would be labeled a "liberal". (and YES, I absolutely DO know of what I speak!).

Interestingly, the media policies and reporting have not changed much at all since they were labeled bastions of conservavism not so long ago! Only the LABELS have changed.

Further, Fox media has long since come into the fray with the absolute STATED position of preserving and reporting conservative values! So, if you compare the other media to them, they will definitely appear "liberal".

For HONEST and FAIR reporting, NPR radio coverage (all things considered) has been continually recognized by independent sources. The BBC, though it has gone through changes, is still a good source for world coverage.

PLAYER57832 wrote:Well, when you consider that republicans have re-defined conservativism as being almost exclusively the far right (and further, more often the religious far right, too boot!) It is absolutely no wonder these liberals are so prevalent.

Some yes. All though? Well, would you consider me far right? Or Religious far right for that matter?

If Ronald Reagan were alive right now, HE would be labeled a "liberal". (and YES, I absolutely DO know of what I speak!).

Most likely yes, though in a more classical way, as many Conservatives view themselves (myself included).

Interestingly, the media policies and reporting have not changed much at all since they were labeled bastions of conservatism not so long ago! Only the LABELS have changed.

As someone once said, "Shit happens."

Further, Fox media has long since come into the fray with the absolute STATED position of preserving and reporting conservative values! So, if you compare the other media to them, they will definitely appear "liberal".

No arguments there.

For HONEST and FAIR reporting, NPR radio coverage (all things considered) has been continually recognized by independent sources. The BBC, though it has gone through changes, is still a good source for world coverage.

Independent doesn't really mean "unbiased, honest and fair." It means that they are simply not one of the larger "sources." Also, I don't think I get NPR here anyways. As for BBC, well, they really don't say much on Wyoming or the Mountain West for that matter, so I don't bother. Though I'd say 9 News is actually a pretty honest and fair news network (based in Denver) in comparison to the already known news outlets. And ABC news, despite it's conservativeness (or liberalness, whichever you prefer) is pretty honest on what they report (at least over the radio).

muy_thaiguy wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:Well, when you consider that republicans have re-defined conservativism as being almost exclusively the far right (and further, more often the religious far right, too boot!) It is absolutely no wonder these liberals are so prevalent.

Some yes. All though? Well, would you consider me far right? Or Religious far right for that matter?

Religious...I don't know.

But what sort of conservative you are and what sort of conservatives are in the republican party are rather different. It's not all the voters who are far right, but most of the politicians are.

Snorri1234 wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:Well, when you consider that republicans have re-defined conservativism as being almost exclusively the far right (and further, more often the religious far right, too boot!) It is absolutely no wonder these liberals are so prevalent.

Some yes. All though? Well, would you consider me far right? Or Religious far right for that matter?

Religious...I don't know.

But what sort of conservative you are and what sort of conservatives are in the republican party are rather different. It's not all the voters who are far right, but most of the politicians are.

Then you need to insert that word, otherwise it is making a huge generalization.

muy_thaiguy wrote:

Snorri1234 wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:Well, when you consider that republicans have re-defined conservativism as being almost exclusively the far right (and further, more often the religious far right, too boot!) It is absolutely no wonder these liberals are so prevalent.

Some yes. All though? Well, would you consider me far right? Or Religious far right for that matter?

Religious...I don't know.

But what sort of conservative you are and what sort of conservatives are in the republican party are rather different. It's not all the voters who are far right, but most of the politicians are.

Then you need to insert that word, otherwise it is making a huge generalization.

Except that republicans keep voting for their politicians. So I really love all that talk about how you're way different from the candidate but your votes don't show any of it. The Far Right is exactly what the republican party is now and if you don't actually like it why don't you change it?

FFS just stop labeling yourself and each other as either "conservative" or "liberal", often using it as an insult when talking about whichever side you perceive yourself not to be. Make up your own labels if you have to, but there's no reason you should let your viewpoints be sorted into what is essentially a binary system.

Dancing Mustard wrote:Ron Paul is not Hitler. Ron Paul is Magneto.


Magneto would be a worse president than Hitler. Case closed. Don't vote Ron Paul, AKA Magneto.

That's strange, Magneto looks alot like Gandalph(or however you spell it). Interesting how they picked the evil reference. You've changed my mind about Ron Paul DM

MeDeFe wrote:FFS just stop labeling yourself and each other as either "conservative" or "liberal", often using it as an insult when talking about whichever side you perceive yourself not to be. Make up your own labels if you have to, but there's no reason you should let your viewpoints be sorted into what is essentially a binary system.

Exactly. I am a Nationalist.

(guess what's coming)

My mind too....

HapSmo19 wrote:

MeDeFe wrote:FFS just stop labeling yourself and each other as either "conservative" or "liberal", often using it as an insult when talking about whichever side you perceive yourself not to be. Make up your own labels if you have to, but there's no reason you should let your viewpoints be sorted into what is essentially a binary system.

Exactly. I am a Nationalist.

(guess what's coming)

I personally consider myself an anti-federalist.

I'd like to think of myself as a Pragmatist.

InkL0sed wrote:I'd like to think of myself as a Pragmatist.

pragmatism not idealism
will not cry in public
less chance of illness...

a pig
in a cage
on antibiotics.

I'm an American!

Snorri1234 wrote:Journalists leaning personally more to the democratic side does not mean the news itself is biased.

protectedbygold wrote:

Snorri1234 wrote:Journalists leaning personally more to the democratic side does not mean the news itself is biased.

It is certainly a possibility, likely even, but it's not a certainty. A scientific lab with scientists who are christian won't neccesarily let their beliefs get in the way of sound science.

Are journalists now supposed to have no personal beliefs?

Snorri1234 wrote:Are journalists now supposed to have no personal beliefs?

They're supposed to be cold-blooded Lizardmen who are trying to spread propaganda, not truth.

Get with the times.

FACT: NYT is a joke.

FACT: Osama errr I mean Obama is also a joke.

oh and thank god, most of you are to young to vote.