Conquer Club

maxatstuy wrote:

porkenbeans wrote:

maxatstuy wrote:I never call anyone cry babies. I do however say that people who incessantly speak out against farming in these threads are doing so because they are too lazy to learn how to beat me on the scoreboard using their "skill," and "talent;" somethings which I apparently dont have.

I know that karel and I had a little conversation yesterday. He wants to beat me on the scoreboard so he is joining games and trying to win as many points as possible. Perhaps if people like yourself were to follow by his example, there would be much more competition at the top, and farming would not be an effective method.

It is not because Im lazy. I like to play RISK. I do not like the game of ''Farming''. I once made a sugg. of a way that would make us both happy. you could have your farming game to play without any changes at all. (see). And you could also have a place to test your real risk skill.

the majority of the issues with ideas similar to that, has to do with gaining skill without the effects of points. If there were two different rooms that a person could play in, there is nothing from stopping a person from perfecting a game type and then using it with the same low score they had before they learned how to play properly

Just to clarify though, you were not the person in particular to whom I was referring, you were just the last person to post...lol

porkenbeans wrote:

maxatstuy wrote:the majority of the issues with ideas similar to that, has to do with gaining skill without the effects of points. If there were two different rooms that a person could play in, there is nothing from stopping a person from perfecting a game type and then using it with the same low score they had before they learned how to play properly

Just to clarify though, you were not the person in particular to whom I was referring, you were just the last person to post...lol

Did you read my link, ''Make two leaderboards'' ? What do you think about that ?

maxatstuy wrote:

porkenbeans wrote:

maxatstuy wrote:the majority of the issues with ideas similar to that, has to do with gaining skill without the effects of points. If there were two different rooms that a person could play in, there is nothing from stopping a person from perfecting a game type and then using it with the same low score they had before they learned how to play properly

Just to clarify though, you were not the person in particular to whom I was referring, you were just the last person to post...lol

Did you read my link, ''Make two leaderboards'' ? What do you think about that ?

Two leader boards would be way too subjective. It is my belief that farming is not exclusive to playing against low ranks, and it is no ones place to define what farming actually is because there is no correct answer. Games become farming in my opinion when you begin to join for points and not for fun, so as long as I enjoy playing against noobs, there is no reason why that should be looked upon any differently than playing any other type of game. Only playing high ranks is just as much farming and what I do, as many people who join those brigadier games are only afraid of losing points in games with low ranks, even though they might have fun playing them. People can think whatever they want and discredit whomever they chose for whatever reasons they have. If you want to call my accomplishments less than that of anyone else, be my guest. A scoreboard wont have any effect though other than to exemplify the biases which the people making up the scoreboard will have, and anger those who are wrongfully removed from one scoreboard, or wrongfully placed on another.

mibi wrote:This suggestion is a good one. Maxastuy is a clinical loser.

maxatstuy wrote:ROFL...this thread is hilarious

The problem that people have with me has nothing to do with noobs not coming back, because it was established that there is nothing I do, other than join the games, which prevents noobs from enjoying their experience. People are annoyed about how successful I have been at farming. A low rank joining those games have the same effect on the noobs as me joining, except that I play real time and answer questions.

Inhuman14 wrote:

maxatstuy wrote:ROFL...this thread is hilarious

The problem that people have with me has nothing to do with noobs not coming back, because it was established that there is nothing I do, other than join the games, which prevents noobs from enjoying their experience. People are annoyed about how successful I have been at farming. A low rank joining those games have the same effect on the noobs as me joining, except that I play real time and answer questions.

Not from what I've seen, or, rather, I don't see you trying to help players. Joining a game made by a new player and saying, "Hey, you look new, how can I help" is a completely different scenario than beating the snot out of them and answering where they can go to complain.

porkenbeans wrote: But, they will secretly have me there, to tell them what to do. What do think about that. You say that there is nothing wrong with farming. OK, ...Lets farm the farmers.

saraith wrote:

porkenbeans wrote: But, they will secretly have me there, to tell them what to do. What do think about that. You say that there is nothing wrong with farming. OK, ...Lets farm the farmers.

I wonder if that constitutes Secret Diplomacy.

demonfork wrote:

PepperJack wrote:Concise description:

• Farming is almost universally looked down upon on this site. Multiple suggestions have been made to alter the scoring system to discourage farming to no avail. Limiting the privileges of new recruits has also been suggested. I say instead on focusing on the large population of new recruits we focus on the small (and known) population of farmers. Known farmers should not be allowed to join games that have a new recruit in them nor should new recruits be allowed to join games started by known farmers.

Specifics:

• Identify known farmers (Maxatstuy, King Herpes, Rabbiton, anyone in the Farmer's Guild, etc.)
• Automagically prevent them from joining games with at least 1 new recruit
• Automagically prevent new recruits from joining games started by known farmers

This will improve the following aspects of the site:

• Known farmer's can no longer profit from new recruit deadbeats
• New recruits are more likely to get a positive experience instead of feeling used by some player that has been with so many other new recruits
• Farmers are correctly identified as the cancerous entities they are

Post Sug. Preaching
If everyone feels that farmers do more damage than good to the site then they should be addressed directly. Why beat around the bush and turn things upside down for everyone? Just limit what farmers can do, discriminate against them, everyone already thinks they're second class, so treat them like it. If the damage that admins/mods claim that farmers do is accurate then the cost of driving them away will be offset by many happy returning new recruits.

Maybe we could even mark these known point farmers with barcodes and make concentration camps and put all of these evil point farmers into them and eradicate them by killing them all off in gas chambers!

theconquerer1995 wrote:

demonfork wrote:

PepperJack wrote:Concise description:

• Farming is almost universally looked down upon on this site. Multiple suggestions have been made to alter the scoring system to discourage farming to no avail. Limiting the privileges of new recruits has also been suggested. I say instead on focusing on the large population of new recruits we focus on the small (and known) population of farmers. Known farmers should not be allowed to join games that have a new recruit in them nor should new recruits be allowed to join games started by known farmers.

Specifics:

• Identify known farmers (Maxatstuy, King Herpes, Rabbiton, anyone in the Farmer's Guild, etc.)
• Automagically prevent them from joining games with at least 1 new recruit
• Automagically prevent new recruits from joining games started by known farmers

This will improve the following aspects of the site:

• Known farmer's can no longer profit from new recruit deadbeats
• New recruits are more likely to get a positive experience instead of feeling used by some player that has been with so many other new recruits
• Farmers are correctly identified as the cancerous entities they are

Post Sug. Preaching
If everyone feels that farmers do more damage than good to the site then they should be addressed directly. Why beat around the bush and turn things upside down for everyone? Just limit what farmers can do, discriminate against them, everyone already thinks they're second class, so treat them like it. If the damage that admins/mods claim that farmers do is accurate then the cost of driving them away will be offset by many happy returning new recruits.

Maybe we could even mark these known point farmers with barcodes and make concentration camps and put all of these evil point farmers into them and eradicate them by killing them all off in gas chambers!

PepperJack wrote:As the OP, I request that this thread be locked. I made this thread half jokingly. Discriminating against farmers, while fantastic in theory, will require far too many man hours to be feasible and is also a completely subjective task. If you wish to have serious conversation regarding deterring farmers check out these legitimate threads (amongst many others)...

New Recruit Amnesty

No Points For New Recruit Deadbeats

or make your own thread.

Again, please lock up this thread mods.

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