Conquer Club

it seems to me that everyone who has thought about it, is doing it now, since the Colorado shooting.

If he accepts responsibility, then why even mention this in public? One word: sympathy. He is trying to play the victim so people will forgve him. People do it all the time, and he is not getting any sympathy here.

I just meant overall things are a lot more peacefull now than in the Dark Ages and we should be thankful for that.

let their famillys flogg him or hang him or whatever they do!!

Murph808 wrote:let their famillys flogg him or hang him or whatever they do!!

HE KILLED HIMSELF LIKE A FUCKING PUSSY

Dwight Lefever, a Roberts family spokesman, spoke at a community prayer service Tuesday evening and said he was at the home of Roberts' father when an Amish neighbor came to comfort the family.

"He stood there for an hour, and he held that man in his arms, and he said, 'We will forgive you,'" Lefever said. "He extended the hope of forgiveness that we all need these days." -AP

Would you be able to do this????

In Wisconsin we had a kid shoot a principal 3 times and the principal died

no jokes, no humor.
children lost there life
just tragic

first i should say i'm english. i think it is sick that something like that can happen and i only have simpathy for the families etc but i think that this is the product of a nation that is built upon the right to have guns. it is no longer necessary to own a gun. the only reason you may need one is if you are in bear country etc or to protect yourself from other people with guns who again don't need them!

I wonder if this shooting might have been inspired by the shooting in Colorado a week or so ago. It's striking that in both cases the shooter had an obsession with teenage girls and made a point of letting the boys go. Perhaps the second shooter saw the reports of the first shooter doing this and started making plans.

Not to come off as a holy roller, or such, but I do feel that the pervasiveness of pornography in our society has contributed to a general overall degradation of our morals. Especially in regards to perversions and sexual obsessions with teenagers.

On the flip side it is truly inspiring and almost unbelievable that the families of the victims in this case almost immediately forgave the shooter. How many of us could honestly say that we would be able to do something like that? These are truly a people who are close to God. The contrast is striking. Shooters compelled by sexual obsessions, and the darkest, most evil, motives, and the families of victims who are selfless and christlike.

We are all headed into a very dangerous, and dark future, but there is hope.

joeyjordison wrote:first i should say i'm english. i think it is sick that something like that can happen and i only have simpathy for the families etc but i think that this is the product of a nation that is built upon the right to have guns. it is no longer necessary to own a gun. the only reason you may need one is if you are in bear country etc or to protect yourself from other people with guns who again don't need them!

People in england said that when we first put it in our constitution to protect us from them way back when..

nice try sly fox.

joeyjordison wrote:first i should say i'm english. i think it is sick that something like that can happen and i only have simpathy for the families etc but i think that this is the product of a nation that is built upon the right to have guns. it is no longer necessary to own a gun. the only reason you may need one is if you are in bear country etc or to protect yourself from other people with guns who again don't need them!

If I'm not mistaken, the right to own guns is decided by each state, not by the federal constitution.

The right to keep and to bear arms is guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the Constitution, and is indeed a Federal, rather than a state, guarantee.....

look, i think the English are just sore because a bunch of rebels beat "the greatest army in the world". jk. Personally, i think that you Brits just don't like the idea, but tell me this, what do u do to protect yourself? also, if this nation didnt allow guns, what's the difference between the US and England? there wouldnt be much of one

Scarus wrote:The right to keep and to bear arms is guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the Constitution, and is indeed a Federal, rather than a state, guarantee.....

The right for state militias to bear arms is stated in the second amendment.

I'm pretty sure that rifles are outlawed in Utah.

stinkycheese wrote:

Scarus wrote:The right to keep and to bear arms is guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the Constitution, and is indeed a Federal, rather than a state, guarantee.....

The right for state militias to bear arms is stated in the second amendment.

I'm pretty sure that rifles are outlawed in Utah.

It says "A well regulated militia necessary for the security of the state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Militias can exist and people can have guns. I don't see how it can be any clearer.

being from Utah I can tell you that rifles are legal.

vtmarik wrote:It says "A well regulated militia necessary for the security of the state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Militias can exist and people can have guns. I don't see how it can be any clearer.

I suppose it has to do with interpretation and the fact that the 2nd amendment was ratified looking like this: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." but it was written like this: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

You may not see how it can be any less clear, but the interpretation is highly debated.


Also, I was wrong about Utah, it's actually California that has outlawed many types of guns that are legal elsewhere. And furthermore, handguns are illegal in Chicago.

K2E3N1T wrote:being from Utah I can tell you that rifles are legal.

This wisconsin congressman's idea is even more fucked up


http://nbc15.madison.com/news/headlines/4309617.html

the u.s. could never get rid of all guns owned by citizens without government officials physically searching every square foot of the nation, which would be a major invasion of privacy... people would just hide their guns from the authorities... britain is able to have a no-gun policy because the british navy/coast gurad or whtever patrol the u.k's shores could just sink any ship trying to smuggle in firearms but america would have to worry about smuggling guns across our land borders, we already can't keep people on the other side so we surely could not prevent people bringing guns across

What first attracted me to this vintage, but admittedly poorly linked, thread was the delightfully refreshing and completely uncensored use of the F-word.
The good old days, before the 'ass-terisk'.

For those interested, the thread originally concerned a milkman vs. Amish incident from way back when: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Nick ... l_shooting.

N.B. properly linked to a stable archival site, not an everchanging 'top news' headline page.