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Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:57 pm
by jonesthecurl
GabonX wrote:Your wife's name wouldn't happen to be Mary would it?
Baabaara.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:34 pm
by daddy1gringo
Neoteny wrote:It's a very simplistic analogy that serves only to stereotype and to justify the existence of those who consider themselves the dogs.
Strange as it is for Neoteny and I to agree on anything, he was dead-on. It's a self serving take on things obviously invented by someone who considers himself one of the dogs. I've seen much more applicable animal/personality schemes. The best I've seen is Smalley and Trent's "Lion/Otter/Beaver/Golden-retriever" scenario. It stresses how the dominant characteristics of each group can be either a strength or a weakness depending on the needs of the situation.
Edit: Also, people are generally not all one thing, but are usually a mixture. And yes, the world IS, or rather, people ARE, complex, and don't generally fit into some pidgeonhole.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:59 pm
by PLAYER57832
daddy1gringo wrote:Neoteny wrote:It's a very simplistic analogy that serves only to stereotype and to justify the existence of those who consider themselves the dogs.
Strange as it is for Neoteny and I to agree on anything, he was dead-on. It's a self serving take on things obviously invented by someone who considers himself one of the dogs. I've seen much more applicable animal/personality schemes. The best I've seen is Smalley and Trent's "Lion/Otter/Beaver/Golden-retriever" scenario. It stresses how the dominant characteristics of each group can be either a strength or a weakness depending on the needs of the situation.
Edit: Also, people are generally not all one thing, but are usually a mixture. And yes, the world IS, or rather, people ARE, complex, and don't generally fit into some pidgeonhole.
add me to the strange mix of agreement..

Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:27 pm
by Neoteny
This is apparently my awesome thread.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:45 pm
by Nobunaga
... I've always rather felt the closest kinship with the lemur.
...
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:51 pm
by neanderpaul14
I'm a chicken-hawk and your a chicken..........so are you comin' quiet or do I have to muss ya' up???
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:57 pm
by GabonX
daddy1gringo wrote:Neoteny wrote:It's a very simplistic analogy that serves only to stereotype and to justify the existence of those who consider themselves the dogs.
Strange as it is for Neoteny and I to agree on anything, he was dead-on. It's a self serving take on things obviously invented by someone who considers himself one of the dogs. I've seen much more applicable animal/personality schemes. The best I've seen is Smalley and Trent's "Lion/Otter/Beaver/Golden-retriever" scenario. It stresses how the dominant characteristics of each group can be either a strength or a weakness depending on the needs of the situation.
Edit: Also, people are generally not all one thing, but are usually a mixture. And yes, the world IS, or rather, people ARE, complex, and don't generally fit into some pidgeonhole.
For the record, I didn't come up with this, but it rang true.
It's kind of funny though, if you think about the descriptions and then read the responses here, they actually prove the point.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:05 pm
by InkL0sed
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's basically been:
GabonX: Ruff ruff!
Neoteny: Ahhh-whooooooooooooooooooo!!
Everyone else: baaaaaaahhhh baaaaaaaaaa!!!!
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:09 pm
by strike wolf
Neoteny wrote:This is apparently my awesome thread.
Yes. I'm the 3rd or maybe the 1st to completely agree with neoteny on this.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:53 pm
by jonesthecurl
I've always liked moles.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:26 pm
by strike wolf
I think it goes without saying that I'm a cat person.

Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:54 pm
by jonesthecurl
strike wolf wrote:I think it goes without saying that I'm a cat person.

your best friend is a saber-tooth...
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:18 am
by b.k. barunt
I'm a wolf who tries very hard to be a dog, but it's rough. Every now and then i take a sheep or two, cause a guy has to eat, doesn't he?
Honibaz
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:52 am
by jonesthecurl
Do you know how to deal with a wolf in sheep's clothing?
You pull the wool over his eyes.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:16 am
by MeDeFe
After taking part in several scientific tests I can say that I am either a cat personality or a porcupine personality. As such I do not fit into any model of society that has been presented in this thread.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:59 am
by GabonX
Hint: if you disagree with this thread, opposed the Iraq war, and supported the current administration you are a sheep

Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:17 am
by Joodoo
I'm a mix between a dog and a sheep...
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:11 pm
by PLAYER57832
GabonX wrote:Hint: if you disagree with this thread, opposed the Iraq war, and supported the current administration you are a sheep

Obviously infallible logic, there ..... NOT!
Sometimes there are more than one way to dissent, and to disagree.
Its not all about pacifism versus being walked upon. I don't for example, believe Bill Gates was particularly in favor of the Iraq war.
It is very old thinking to suppose that all battles are fought on battle fields of war.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:31 pm
by GabonX
Most women, in my experience, are sheep.
It seems that at least half of men are as well.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:38 pm
by Snorri1234
i'm a dragon.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:47 pm
by Krueger
Or it could be that we have the ability to shift from one animal to another.
You could be a sheep until you need to defend your family, then you become a dog.
You could be a sheep until the opportunity presents itself, poof, wolf.
Yep, shape shifting animals works well. I think that everyone has the ability to be whatever is necessary for any given situation.
We all decide for ourselves what we do, be it good or evil.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:55 pm
by GabonX
Snorri1234 wrote:i'm a dragon.
No dragons
Krueger wrote:Or it could be that we have the ability to shift from one animal to another.
You could be a sheep until you need to defend your family, then you become a dog.
You could be a sheep until the opportunity presents itself, poof, wolf.
Yep, shape shifting animals works well. I think that everyone has the ability to be whatever is necessary for any given situation.
We all decide for ourselves what we do, be it good or evil.
If you have the capacity to defend, or to physically offend you are a dog or a wolf.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:03 pm
by MeDeFe
GabonX wrote:Snorri1234 wrote:i'm a dragon.
No dragons
Krueger wrote:Or it could be that we have the ability to shift from one animal to another.
You could be a sheep until you need to defend your family, then you become a dog.
You could be a sheep until the opportunity presents itself, poof, wolf.
Yep, shape shifting animals works well. I think that everyone has the ability to be whatever is necessary for any given situation.
We all decide for ourselves what we do, be it good or evil.
If you have the capacity to defend, or to physically offend you are a dog or a wolf.
What about mouflons? You don't want to get hit by those horns, even if you're heavier than them.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:08 pm
by Neoteny
GabonX wrote:Krueger wrote:Or it could be that we have the ability to shift from one animal to another.
You could be a sheep until you need to defend your family, then you become a dog.
You could be a sheep until the opportunity presents itself, poof, wolf.
Yep, shape shifting animals works well. I think that everyone has the ability to be whatever is necessary for any given situation.
We all decide for ourselves what we do, be it good or evil.
If you have the capacity to defend, or to physically offend you are a dog or a wolf.
I'm not quite sure that you are aware of what you are saying anymore. I'm fully capable of defending myself and others, but choose not to do so under an organization that carried out operations that do not mesh with my concept of defense (the military under the past administration). That makes me both a sheep and a wolf according to your criteria. Consistency does not seem to be your strong point.
Re: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:10 pm
by GabonX
George Bush was not a wolf in respect to the Iraq war. Saddam Hussein was a tyrant and a threat to world stability. We went in to find weapons of mass destruction and they were found.
The only thing which wasn't found was an active nuclear program but there were hundreds of tons of raw nuclear material.