Conquer Club

PLAYER57832 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:Have any of you seen the video of this Iranian woman being murdered by her government?

I have not. I've seen references to it on the news, but that's about it.

According to the sources I have, she was actually not directly involved in the protest, she was a bystander who was near a protest and then was hit by a sniper bullet. However, I suspect the real truth has already been distorted by most sides to the point that we may never know what really happened.

She will be a symbol.

She was unarmed; standing on the sidewalk near a peaceful demonstration. What more do you need?

PLAYER57832 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:Have any of you seen the video of this Iranian woman being murdered by her government?

I have not. I've seen references to it on the news, but that's about it.

According to the sources I have, she was actually not directly involved in the protest, she was a bystander who was near a protest and then was hit by a sniper bullet. However, I suspect the real truth has already been distorted by most sides to the point that we may never know what really happened.

She will be a symbol.

"According to the sources I have..." I know what you meant Player, but it's still funny. "Player, this is the CIA. We are issuing to you our report on the shootings in Iran."

captain.crazy wrote:

Woodruff wrote:I did nothing of the sort, as the rational among us well recognize.

You can try to convince yourself of that, but the fact is, you used her to take a shot at me. My intent was to honir her and talk about her sacrifice. You sought to make light of it. You should apologize, but I know that your ego will not allow for that. You don't even see that you disrespected her.

I've apologized in these forums many times, when it was appropriate. Such is not the case here. The fact that you continue to go on and on about this does more to disrespect her than anything I've done in the thread. However, clearly the last part of my statement above doesn't apply to you, so I guess that's your "out".

Woodruff wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:

Woodruff wrote:I did nothing of the sort, as the rational among us well recognize.

You can try to convince yourself of that, but the fact is, you used her to take a shot at me. My intent was to honir her and talk about her sacrifice. You sought to make light of it. You should apologize, but I know that your ego will not allow for that. You don't even see that you disrespected her.

I've apologized in these forums many times, when it was appropriate. Such is not the case here. The fact that you continue to go on and on about this does more to disrespect her than anything I've done in the thread. However, clearly the last part of my statement above doesn't apply to you, so I guess that's your "out".

I asked an honest question about how people felt about her death. It was meat to open a discussion on the matter, a serious matter. Your lack of compassion on the issue in your endless attempts to ridicule me, led you to be disrespectful of her, without even realizing it. All you have done is defend your calous words towards her.

Why don't you at least express your feelings on the issue of her death? What do you think about that? Or is it all just a big joke to you.

Stop being a dick. We all realize the tragedy in the situation.

Neoteny wrote:Stop being a dick. We all realize the tragedy in the situation.

I'm not being a dick... I am sticking up for the dead.

captain.crazy wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:

Woodruff wrote:I did nothing of the sort, as the rational among us well recognize.

You can try to convince yourself of that, but the fact is, you used her to take a shot at me. My intent was to honir her and talk about her sacrifice. You sought to make light of it. You should apologize, but I know that your ego will not allow for that. You don't even see that you disrespected her.

I've apologized in these forums many times, when it was appropriate. Such is not the case here. The fact that you continue to go on and on about this does more to disrespect her than anything I've done in the thread. However, clearly the last part of my statement above doesn't apply to you, so I guess that's your "out".

I asked an honest question about how people felt about her death. It was meat to open a discussion on the matter, a serious matter. Your lack of compassion on the issue in your endless attempts to ridicule me, led you to be disrespectful of her, without even realizing it. All you have done is defend your calous words towards her.
Why don't you at least express your feelings on the issue of her death? What do you think about that? Or is it all just a big joke to you.

I've seen far more death in my life than I certainly ever cared to. This particular situation is so much not a joke to me that I feel it's important to be able to find some humor in the situation. I'm sure you won't be able to comprehend that, nor do I particularly care.

And as I said, you are showing her far more disrespect in this thread than I have.

captain.crazy wrote:

Neoteny wrote:Stop being a dick. We all realize the tragedy in the situation.

I'm not being a dick... I am sticking up for the dead.

You're sticking up for the dead? What exactly is accomplished by that, just out of curiousity?

Woodruff wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:

Woodruff wrote:I did nothing of the sort, as the rational among us well recognize.

You can try to convince yourself of that, but the fact is, you used her to take a shot at me. My intent was to honir her and talk about her sacrifice. You sought to make light of it. You should apologize, but I know that your ego will not allow for that. You don't even see that you disrespected her.

I've apologized in these forums many times, when it was appropriate. Such is not the case here. The fact that you continue to go on and on about this does more to disrespect her than anything I've done in the thread. However, clearly the last part of my statement above doesn't apply to you, so I guess that's your "out".

I asked an honest question about how people felt about her death. It was meat to open a discussion on the matter, a serious matter. Your lack of compassion on the issue in your endless attempts to ridicule me, led you to be disrespectful of her, without even realizing it. All you have done is defend your calous words towards her.
Why don't you at least express your feelings on the issue of her death? What do you think about that? Or is it all just a big joke to you.

I've seen far more death in my life than I certainly ever cared to. This particular situation is so much not a joke to me that I feel it's important to be able to find some humor in the situation. I'm sure you won't be able to comprehend that, nor do I particularly care.

And as I said, you are showing her far more disrespect in this thread than I have.

captain.crazy wrote:

Neoteny wrote:Stop being a dick. We all realize the tragedy in the situation.

I'm not being a dick... I am sticking up for the dead.

You're sticking up for the dead? What exactly is accomplished by that, just out of curiousity?

So, you have chosen to admit that you are disrespectful of her death, in fact, you would rather laugh about it.

I am sticking up for her because she deserves to be honored, not laughed at. You are scum.

No your ego is bigger.
NO YOURS.

No i respect her more.
NO I DO.


Yep, business as usual on the internet.

Haggis_McMutton wrote:No your ego is bigger.
NO YOURS.

No i respect her more.
NO I DO.


Yep, business as usual on the internet.

You are right... I should just ignore woodruff...

But back to the topic... for those of you that saw the clip, what were your thoughts?

My thoughts were "Kent State."

mpjh wrote:My thoughts were "Kent State."

"Four Dead in O-Hi-o..."

I thought about the woman's father... who, I think, is the guy that was screaming...

I have daughters... I would not have taken them to protest... It would drive me to an uncontrollable rage to have one of them murdered by my government. My heart goes out to him.

captain.crazy wrote:

mpjh wrote:My thoughts were "Kent State."

"Four Dead in O-Hi-o..."

I thought about the woman's father... who, I think, is the guy that was screaming...

I have daughters... I would not have taken them to protest... It would drive me to an uncontrollable rage to have one of them murdered by my government. My heart goes out to him.

She wasn't protesting. She was a bystander.

We are all bystanders.

Skittles! wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:

mpjh wrote:My thoughts were "Kent State."

"Four Dead in O-Hi-o..."

I thought about the woman's father... who, I think, is the guy that was screaming...

I have daughters... I would not have taken them to protest... It would drive me to an uncontrollable rage to have one of them murdered by my government. My heart goes out to him.

She wasn't protesting. She was a bystander.

Where did you hear that? I heard that she was protesting.

My thoughts are this. I am not convinced that anybody stole the elections. I was wondering where were those exit polls conducted. Of course if you conduct them in cities than it would indicate that larger percentage voted for Mousavi. However if I am not mistaken Iran has quite a large rural population which seems to side with Ahmadinejad (and there are quite a few that vote for Ahmadinejad in cities too). Western countries (USA and UK) have a long history of intervening and meddling into elections (e.g. most recently Ukraine) and I am not convinced they didn't do it this time. Actually I would question what are interests of Saudi Arabia and/or Egypt in all of this. I am not sure how much they appreciate a leadership role of Muslim world that Iran is slowly taking over.

But to answer your question she is a tragic victim but there are many more children that die right now of hunger, malaria, and God knows what simply because they were not born in the right place while some chubby kid is slurping happily away on his Big Mac and milkshake. As tragic as the death of that lady may be there are many more deaths that nobody notices or pretends not to notice so that they do not have to start asking unpleasant questions. But on the other hand you can spin everything and find an excuse. And that's all I have to say about that

captain.crazy wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:You can try to convince yourself of that, but the fact is, you used her to take a shot at me. My intent was to honir her and talk about her sacrifice. You sought to make light of it. You should apologize, but I know that your ego will not allow for that. You don't even see that you disrespected her.

I've apologized in these forums many times, when it was appropriate. Such is not the case here. The fact that you continue to go on and on about this does more to disrespect her than anything I've done in the thread. However, clearly the last part of my statement above doesn't apply to you, so I guess that's your "out".

I asked an honest question about how people felt about her death. It was meat to open a discussion on the matter, a serious matter. Your lack of compassion on the issue in your endless attempts to ridicule me, led you to be disrespectful of her, without even realizing it. All you have done is defend your calous words towards her.
Why don't you at least express your feelings on the issue of her death? What do you think about that? Or is it all just a big joke to you.

I've seen far more death in my life than I certainly ever cared to. This particular situation is so much not a joke to me that I feel it's important to be able to find some humor in the situation. I'm sure you won't be able to comprehend that, nor do I particularly care.

And as I said, you are showing her far more disrespect in this thread than I have.

captain.crazy wrote:

Neoteny wrote:Stop being a dick. We all realize the tragedy in the situation.

I'm not being a dick... I am sticking up for the dead.

You're sticking up for the dead? What exactly is accomplished by that, just out of curiousity?

So, you have chosen to admit that you are disrespectful of her death, in fact, you would rather laugh about it.

I'm sorry you can't read. You should work on that problem instead of posting in a thread exposing your ignorance. I should have known you weren't serious when you asked me to speak my thoughts on her death...you just wanted to try to find another reason to act like an ass.

captain.crazy wrote:I am sticking up for her because she deserves to be honored, not laughed at. You are scum.

You should try to be more Christ-like. You're embarrassing your entire religion...well, at least those who actually think you're religious instead of just a yammering sychophant.

Woodruff wrote:I'm sorry you can't read. You should work on that problem instead of posting in a thread exposing your ignorance. I should have known you weren't serious when you asked me to speak my thoughts on her death...you just wanted to try to find another reason to act like an ass.

You should try to be more Christ-like. You're embarrassing your entire religion...well, at least those who actually think you're religious instead of just a yammering sychophant.

I read you quite well. Rather than acknowledge that you have made a thoughtless mockery of this woman's death, you decided that you would suggest that you should make a joke about it. I read what you said just fine.

Also, I wonder how you think christ would have commented on your remarks. Do you think that He never has harsh words for the arrogant? I assure you, he did.

I heard today that the Iranian government has now evicted the woman's family from their home.

mpjh wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:Have any of you seen the video of this Iranian woman being murdered by her government?

I have not. I've seen references to it on the news, but that's about it.

According to the sources I have, she was actually not directly involved in the protest, she was a bystander who was near a protest and then was hit by a sniper bullet. However, I suspect the real truth has already been distorted by most sides to the point that we may never know what really happened.

She will be a symbol.

She was unarmed; standing on the sidewalk near a peaceful demonstration. What more do you need?

To honor her as a "freedom fighter"? I'd say we need a helluva lot more. I was sitting here marveling at your referring to this unfortunate woman as a "lioness", since i heard on the news that she was an innocent bystander, when someone (Player) finally brought up the fact that she was not one of the protesters. Do you have any idea how ignorant you sound to praise her as a "lioness" when she was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time? She is no more a "lioness" than the murdered students at Kent State were anti-war demonstrators. She will be, as they were, a symbol of innocent life lost to tyrannical abuse of power - that should be enough without all the hype.


Honibaz

captain.crazy wrote:

Woodruff wrote:I'm sorry you can't read. You should work on that problem instead of posting in a thread exposing your ignorance. I should have known you weren't serious when you asked me to speak my thoughts on her death...you just wanted to try to find another reason to act like an ass.

You should try to be more Christ-like. You're embarrassing your entire religion...well, at least those who actually think you're religious instead of just a yammering sychophant.

I read you quite well. Rather than acknowledge that you have made a thoughtless mockery of this woman's death, you decided that you would suggest that you should make a joke about it. I read what you said just fine.

I didn't make a thoughtless mockery. I'm sorry you can't read. You should work on that problem instead of posting in a thread exposing your ignorance. I should have known you weren't serious when you asked me to speak my thoughts on her death...you just wanted to try to find another reason to act like an ass. But hey...at least you were successful in that regard!

captain.crazy wrote:Also, I wonder how you think christ would have commented on your remarks. Do you think that He never has harsh words for the arrogant? I assure you, he did.

Honestly, I think he would find it hilariously ironic every time you tell me I'm arrogant.