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Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:01 am
by oVo
I doubt there is anything to fear from a Palin presidential bid. If she is all the Republicans have going for them they are in big trouble and will have a difficult time developing a campaign that can be taken seriously. Sarah was a fresh pretty face in the last election, but the potential of her being next in line behind McCain proved to be a liability that was impossible to overcome. I don't think she will fair any better as the headliner of a ticket three years from now and the GOP has a lot of work ahead to right their floundering ship, without the assistance of a major faux-pas by the Dems.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:07 am
by mpjh
What attacks? The demos have always been formal and respectful to her in public. Unless you are counting David Letterman - and 90 percent of the other comedians in the world - as spokespersons for the democrats.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:24 am
by thegreekdog
mpjh wrote:What attacks? The demos have always been formal and respectful to her in public. Unless you are counting David Letterman - and 90 percent of the other comedians in the world - as spokespersons for the democrats.
Attacks is too strong a term. Criticism is better. She was more visibly criticized than Senator McCain, by far.
And yes, I do count Letterman, most other comedians, talk show hosts, and major media outlets (like, for example MSNBC) as Democrats.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:20 am
by jonesthecurl
Palin's campaign slogan should be "Don't milk lame ducks".
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:40 am
by strike wolf
oVo wrote:I actually like Sarah Palin on a basic level... she is assertive and ambitious to a fault,
but I don't see her as the right person for a higher nationally prominent position...
beyond representing the interests of Alaska.
Obama should be back if he wants it, but let's not speculate too much as this first term still
has a long ways to go. The actions of George Bush and his administration pretty much handed
the oval office to the Democrats. Once the grumblings of a very odd election quieted down
in 2000 he was off to basically popular beginnings only to become a huge disappointment.
I don't see any Republicans challenging Obama in 2012 if things just go reasonably well.
I'd agree that Sarah Palin has done reasonably well representing Alaska's interests (even if I don't agree with much of her policy). I'd also say that I don't feel she's ready or will be ready to represent the interests of the nation either now or by 2012 maybe never.
There's a very good chance that Obama will have some kind of falling out by 2012 for the simple reason that when you make a lot of reform there's the high risk of things going wrong on a grand scale and because of it losing the support of the people who voted you into power to begin with.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:43 am
by strike wolf
oVo wrote:I doubt there is anything to fear from a Palin presidential bid. If she is all the Republicans have going for them they are in big trouble and will have a difficult time developing a campaign that can be taken seriously. Sarah was a fresh pretty face in the last election, but the potential of her being next in line behind McCain proved to be a liability that was impossible to overcome. I don't think she will fair any better as the headliner of a ticket three years from now and the GOP has a lot of work ahead to right their floundering ship, without the assistance of a major faux-pas by the Dems.
Once again, I agree. In the long run, the only thing Palin really brought positive to the ticket was a fresh pretty face.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:46 am
by King_Herpes
I've got something fresh for her face...
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:58 am
by jiminski
King_Herpes wrote:I've got something fresh for her face...
and i bet it won't require the agreement of congress!
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:45 pm
by Snorri1234
thegreekdog wrote:mpjh wrote:What attacks? The demos have always been formal and respectful to her in public. Unless you are counting David Letterman - and 90 percent of the other comedians in the world - as spokespersons for the democrats.
Attacks is too strong a term. Criticism is better. She was more visibly criticized than Senator McCain, by far.
And yes, I do count Letterman, most other comedians, talk show hosts, and major media outlets (like, for example MSNBC) as Democrats.
You also count them as legitimate critics which might not be a good idea regarding comedians.
Anyway, I think the democrats are actually really just laughing over the republicans and their hilarious failings at becoming bigger again. Sure, Palin has the support but only from the Republicans themselves. She appeals to exactly the people the republican party is now made up off but that's because the people who she doesn't appeal to have left the party.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:01 pm
by thegreekdog
jiminski wrote:King_Herpes wrote:I've got something fresh for her face...
and i bet it won't require the agreement of congress!
It may require sexual congress though.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:48 am
by Frigidus
Snorri1234 wrote:thegreekdog wrote:mpjh wrote:What attacks? The demos have always been formal and respectful to her in public. Unless you are counting David Letterman - and 90 percent of the other comedians in the world - as spokespersons for the democrats.
Attacks is too strong a term. Criticism is better. She was more visibly criticized than Senator McCain, by far.
And yes, I do count Letterman, most other comedians, talk show hosts, and major media outlets (like, for example MSNBC) as Democrats.
You also count them as legitimate critics which might not be a good idea regarding comedians.
Anyway, I think the democrats are actually really just laughing over the republicans and their hilarious failings at becoming bigger again. Sure, Palin has the support but only from the Republicans themselves. She appeals to exactly the people the republican party is now made up off but that's because the people who she doesn't appeal to have left the party.
I seriously don't get why they are so concerned about rallying the base. If they stay on the far right only the far right will vote for them. It's all very strange.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:10 am
by mpjh
It is actually quit wonderful. It is like sitting on a hill over the valley of the enemy and watching them kill each other in an argument over who is stronger. Time of binoculars and a picnic lunch, I think.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:49 pm
by Night Strike
mpjh wrote:It is actually quit wonderful. It is like sitting on a hill over the valley of the enemy and watching them kill each other in an argument over who is stronger. Time of binoculars and a picnic lunch, I think.
And you don't think the Democrats in Congress are currently doing that? You have the far left loons like Pelosi wanting to spend and tax a huge amount of money during a recession (and Biden saying we have to spend more money to avoid bankruptcy), while you have the Blue Dogs going for fiscal restraint and sound policies. I'd be much more concerned about what they're doing than who the Republicans are going to nominate for president in 3 years.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:56 pm
by mpjh
Difference is: one has real power and one doesn't. A fight over real power is always going on. a fight over no power is just funny.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:00 am
by Snorri1234
Night Strike wrote:mpjh wrote:It is actually quit wonderful. It is like sitting on a hill over the valley of the enemy and watching them kill each other in an argument over who is stronger. Time of binoculars and a picnic lunch, I think.
And you don't think the Democrats in Congress are currently doing that?
No. MPjh isn't talking about the little infighting and disagreement every single party has, but about the fact the Republicans are killing off their own party. They're actively barring people from the party who don't agree with the extreme right-wing beliefs.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:04 am
by Gozar
Night Strike wrote:... the far left loons like Pelosi ...
hee hee
Her and Lenin both.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:13 pm
by spurgistan
Gozar wrote:Night Strike wrote:... the far left loons like Pelosi ...
hee hee
Her and Lenin both.
Wait... which one's the House majority leader, again? I'm always getting Nancy and Vladmir mixed up, in my mind.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:21 pm
by Night Strike
spurgistan wrote:Gozar wrote:Night Strike wrote:... the far left loons like Pelosi ...
hee hee
Her and Lenin both.
Wait... which one's the House majority leader, again? I'm always getting Nancy and Vladmir mixed up, in my mind.
Well, neither b/c she's Speaker of the House. Another person is the majority leader, but I definitely see your point.
Re: 71% of Republicans support Palin in '12
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:33 pm
by InkL0sed
I don't think you do
