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Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - Round 1, Set 4, June 25

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:42 am
by Jonsvoll
Jonsvoll and larsin won
[game]2720056[/game]
[game]2640133[/game]

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - Round 1, Set 4, June 25

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:51 am
by pjdonald
AndrewB wrote:I am going away for 4 days. So no updates till then.


Can we get a scoreboard update on the 6th then?

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - Round 1, Set 4, June 25

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:53 pm
by luckywar
Surf and luckywar win games:

[game]2640066[/game]
[game]2719957[/game]
[game]2720037[/game]
[game]2719997[/game]
[game]2719957[/game]
[game]2720096[/game]

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - Round 1, Set 4, June 25

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:59 am
by firstholliday
Jim and 1st win Game 2720049

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - Round 1, Set 4, June 25

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:14 pm
by Forefall
scoreboard update please =)

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - Round 1, Set 4, June 25

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:26 pm
by Jonsvoll
Jonsvoll and larsin won

[game]2719971[/game]
[game]2720103[/game]

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - Round 1, Set 4, June 25

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:02 pm
by surfingmace
surfingmace and luckywar win game 2719958

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - Round 1, Set 4, June 25

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:54 pm
by AndrewB
I just came back.

All the tables will be updated tomorrow morning, on 8th of July.

Sorry guys, but i had to leave unexpectedly. Please stand by.

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - Round 1 Started

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:07 am
by DiM
full update.
round 1: 6-2
[game]2453224[/game] - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM lost vs trapyoung & jpeter15
[game]2453019[/game] - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Siedshow99 & General Mojo
[game]2453134[/game] - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM won vs Blind Date & Seulessliathan
[game]2453090[/game] - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM won vs bigbullyweedave & -Marcos-
[game]2453228[/game] - rd 21 - edbeard & DiM won vs AndrewB & David_Wain
[game]2453131[/game] - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs chard & Condor
[game]2453020[/game] - rd13 - edbeard & DiM won vs DBandit70 & mbass
[game]2453088[/game] - rd17 - edbeard & DiM won vs Forza AZ & dragon dor

round 2: 5-3
[game]2541899[/game] - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM won vs trapyoung & jpeter15
[game]2541904[/game] - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs AndrewB & David_Wain
[game]2541858[/game] - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Seulessliathan & Blind Date
[game]2541772[/game] - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs Siedshow99 & General Mojo
[game]2541773[/game] - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM won vs DBandit70 & mbass
[game]2541813[/game] - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM lost vs bigbullyweedave & -Marcos-
[game]2541855[/game] - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs chard & Condor
[game]2541809[/game] - rd 11 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Forza AZ & dragon dor

round 3: 4-4
[game]2640199[/game] - rd 12 - edbeard & DiM won vs trapyoung & jpeter15
[game]2640204[/game] - rd 6 - edbeard & DiM lost vs AndrewB & David_Wain
[game]2640158[/game] - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Seulessliathan & Blind Date
[game]2640044[/game] - rd 11 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Siedshow99 & General Mojo
[game]2640046[/game] - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM lost vs DBandit70 & mbass
[game]2640100[/game] - rd 11 - edbeard & DiM won vs bigbullyweedave & -Marcos-
[game]2640155[/game] - rd 12 - edbeard & DiM won vs chard & Condor
[game]2640097[/game] - rd 14 - edbeard & DiM won vs Forza AZ & dragon dor

round 4: 2-3
[game]2719934[/game] - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs Siedshow99 & General Mojo
[game]2719980[/game] - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Forza AZ & dragon dor
[game]2720024[/game] - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Seulessliathan & Blind Date
[game]2720063[/game] - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM won vs trapyoung & jpeter15
[game]2720068[/game] - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM lost vs AndrewB & David_Wain

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - Round 1, Set 4, June 25

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:33 pm
by AndrewB
Tables are updated as of today. We still need to wait for the outcome of some games.

Please verify and report any discrepancies.

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:48 pm
by luckywar
[game]2720089[/game] - surfingmace & luckywar win

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:25 pm
by AndrewB
gp24176281 - thinktank receive formal citation for trying to arrange game results with opponents.

Let it be warning and reminder to everyone:

Quote from the CC Rules:

Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:01 pm
by firstholliday
hmm were was that drew?

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:04 pm
by jiminski
AndrewB wrote:gp24176281 - thinktank receive formal citation for trying to arrange game results with opponents.

Let it be warning and reminder to everyone:

Quote from the CC Rules:

Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games


yeah, what happened and where ?

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:08 pm
by firstholliday
jim and 1st win Game 2720097

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:17 pm
by firstholliday
Our poule is so so so very close that 1 cheating game could prevent a team from going thrue to the next round.

This can't be the case in the best tourney ever. If they really tried to their have to be according messures.

1st

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:39 pm
by AndrewB
[game]2640130[/game]

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:39 pm
by AndrewB
Actually they were penalized by 1.1MP for attempting to do that.

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:58 pm
by AndrewB
I was thinking about the format of the tournament. And i think the following would work the best:

in round 1 we have 36 teams
in round 2 we have 24 teams
in finals we have 12 teams

in round 1 we have 4 groups
in round 2 we have 2 groups
in finals we have 1 group

that way we decrease the number of teams every round by 12.

I think that would work the best. What do u say, guys?

And hopefully will reduce the number of cheating attempts? That everyone is not so desperate anymore LOL

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:38 pm
by firstholliday
either that or 36/18/9

works both fine for me.

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:43 pm
by AndrewB
firstholliday wrote:either that or 36/18/9

works both fine for me.


that would be more difficult to pick up 18 teams out of 4 groups :(

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:40 am
by gp24176281
AndrewB,

This is a formal protest on us being panalized. I find it out of place.

I wasn't aware it's not aloud (as was specifically indicated on the game chat). Moreover, as indicated in the chat, I was certain it's aloud. If I wanted to go behind the back of anyone or be dishonest in any way, I would have not done it on chat.

and to the point:
1. It was an inocent(!!!) offer as indicated from the chat.
2. Nothing really happen in the end of the day.

Thus,
I kindly request to reconsider the panalization.

I would welcome any remark by the other players as well, after reading this massage.

gp

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:16 am
by jiminski
gp24176281 wrote:AndrewB,

This is a formal protest on us being panalized. I find it totally out of place.

I wasn't aware it's not aloud (as was specifically indicated on the game chat). More specifically I indicated that in the chat that I'm certain it's aloud. If I wanted to go behind the back of anyone or be dishonest in any way, I would have not done it on chat but by other means.

I searched the thread and couldn't find any mention that deals are not aloud. I ask u to reconsider due to this fact. It was an inocent misunderstanding that certainly doesn't call for such a punishment.

gp



you offer to throw a game and did not know it was not allowed?

good grief! with the exception of when you are playing in your 4 year old nephews non-affiliated Snap tournament, in what competition in the world is that acceptable behaviour?

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:07 am
by dcc1220
gp24176281 wrote:I searched the thread and couldn't find any mention that deals are not aloud. I ask u to reconsider due to this fact. It was an inocent misunderstanding that certainly doesn't call for such a punishment.

gp


Mention of throwing any game is under the rules of the site, it does not have to be included in the rules of a specific tournament. If you were somehow unaware of this rule it is unfortunate, but with the very limited information I have seen the punishment seems appropriate.

No one can deny that some tournaments' setup encourage this type of event. I am in another tourney where we are awarded points based on the place we finish in each game. This encourages some very strange play at times by players whose goal becomes to finish 2nd or 3rd, and do not intend to win the individual game.

Re: Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League - End of Round 1, July 8

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:23 am
by jiminski
dcc1220 wrote:
gp24176281 wrote:I searched the thread and couldn't find any mention that deals are not aloud. I ask u to reconsider due to this fact. It was an inocent misunderstanding that certainly doesn't call for such a punishment.

gp


Mention of throwing any game is under the rules of the site, it does not have to be included in the rules of a specific tournament. If you were somehow unaware of this rule it is unfortunate, but with the very limited information I have seen the punishment seems appropriate.

No one can deny that some tournaments' setup encourage this type of event. I am in another tourney where we are awarded points based on the place we finish in each game. This encourages some very strange play at times by players whose goal becomes to finish 2nd or 3rd, and do not intend to win the individual game.



Screw that! i want to win every game and i don't care who i play in the next round! If i win this tournament it is because I deserved to.

And i am sure my partner will agree with that ;)

Just look at some of the gamechat between me and Firstholliday (my partner)as adversaries in Standard Escalator games!
You will see that we give no quarter to each other (though friends, and partners in other games) let alone to anyone else! (in fact we are probably harder on one-another, as our opinion matters more!)

Regardless of that, In this Tourney it does not affect who we play and to think it permissible to arrange a formal agreement in chat to throw a game, is at best naive.

Naivety is not a defense when it belies commonly accpeted codes of decency.