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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:56 am
by yeti_c
yeti_c wrote:BTW - you still have "Loyalites" instead of "Loyalties"
Or are you saying that the people are "loyalite" - I think "Acolytes" would be a better word if that's your intention.
C.
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:56 am
by mibi
yeti_c wrote:yeti_c wrote:BTW - you still have "Loyalites" instead of "Loyalties"
Or are you saying that the people are "loyalite" - I think "Acolytes" would be a better word if that's your intention.
C.
i know i know...i'll fix it on the next update
this map isnt going anywhere util the xml update anyways
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:15 pm
by tinyrock
it seems a little confusing, what with all the side boxs
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:48 pm
by mibi
tinyrock wrote:it seems a little confusing, what with all the side boxs
yeah... its Iraq.
standby
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:51 am
by turtleman
i cant wait to play this map , it looks very intresting

Re: iraq map
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:48 pm
by Baghdad
HAWK79 wrote:i personally dont think you should make a map about an ongoing war because being part of a military family i know it would offend me and should offend any other person on this site that has a loved one currently serving over seas or has a loved one that has given his life for the war. (i am a part of both groups i have immediate family currently serving in iraq and i had two very close friends killed when the war first started)
I respect what you've said Hawk.
And same here, I dont want a map of my nation on Conquer Club and players glorifying "Operation: Iraqi
Freedom"
I can write you an essay right now obliterating every possible statement/ comment/ argument on this war- if you're agreeing with it and if you think it's being fought for a good cause...
Now, thats a whole another bucket of fish to sort through...
But yes, I do not support this map at all... Sure. some of you are going to say "well, what about WWII?"
WWII was fought for a good cause... Men, women, and children all died for the cause of freedom and democracy... Now, Iraq... not so sure about
WWII wasn't fought using WMDs... Now, Iraq... hmmm... ?
Let us keep the sensitive topics away from Maps...
I respect how much time you've put into that map of yours, but regardless, its offensive and brings back unwelcomed memories
Thank you and sorry at the same time

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:55 pm
by Baghdad
And oh, I probably wouldnt mind
as much about the map if you took out The Sunni, Shia, and Kurds
Iraq is one nation and there is no bullshitted "sectarian war". Some of you are going to call me insane, but there is no sectarian war in Iraq... Lets leave it at that
So, maybe, just maybe, if you took out the sect's (Sunni, Shia, Kurds) and added something new... Maybe, say, "Oil Provinces" (the south)
luscious forests (North)
And deserts (central Iraq- all of Anbar province)
And btw, the Shia sect. take all of the province of Muthana, Najaf, and Kerbala just for your fyi

Re: iraq map
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:01 pm
by yeti_c
Baghdad wrote:WWII wasn't fought using WMDs... Now, Iraq... hmmm... ?
Hmmm I think'll you'll find the (ex)-inhabitants of Hiroshima & Nagasaki might beg to differ...
C.
Re: iraq map
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:15 pm
by Baghdad
yeti_c wrote:Baghdad wrote:WWII wasn't fought using WMDs... Now, Iraq... hmmm... ?
Hmmm I think'll you'll find the (ex)-inhabitants of Hiroshima & Nagasaki might beg to differ...
C.
As will the (ex)-inhabitants of Fallujah, Najaf, Kerbala, Baghdad, Basra, and countless other cities...
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:47 pm
by Coleman
Guys that's going to have to stop there. We need to keep this discussion about the map and how to improve it.
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:19 pm
by mibi
Coleman wrote:Guys that's going to have to stop there. We need to keep this discussion about the map and how to improve it.
yes, regardless of your own personal opinion based on your experience, this map is as unbiased as it gets, without Arabic subtitles.
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:24 pm
by Coleman
mibi wrote:Coleman wrote:I like those without putting the in front of them.
City of "Name" Province of "Name" (if province is the word we are using)
Now that dashes don't screw up BOB could we do Baghdad - "Name" for those?
As for the loyalty boxes I'm not sure about all that text. I could do another simple Mahdi - "Name" for those like Baghdad. Or the reverse "name" - Mahdi.
what about <loyalty> of <city>. Like Bathists of Ramadi
bahdad could be, "<name> district of bahdad" or is that too long
We can still talk about this. How would you like this all to spell out if I went with these names?
<loyalty> of <city>
<name> City
<name> Territory
<name> (Baghdad)
I'm mostly looking for loyalty here, Bathists, Mahdi, ect. Not sure how you would want them written in that context.
EDIT: Actually I don't like these three:
<name> City
<name> Territory
<name> (Baghdad)
Because they'll all be jumbled together and I think it would make more sense in the drop downs if the cities, territories, and areas of Baghdad all were grouped together.
Proposed:
City of <name>
Region of <name>
Sector: <name>
Cities would come first this way, followed by regions, and then portions of Baghdad.
Not just asking mibi here, anyone have comments?
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:05 am
by yeti_c
Coleman wrote:Proposed:
City of <name>
Region of <name>
Sector: <name>
Cities would come first this way, followed by regions, and then portions of Baghdad.
Not just asking mibi here, anyone have comments?
Like this one...
Group everything together...
C.
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:35 am
by mibi
yeti_c wrote:Coleman wrote:Proposed:
City of <name>
Region of <name>
Sector: <name>
Cities would come first this way, followed by regions, and then portions of Baghdad.
Not just asking mibi here, anyone have comments?
Like this one...
Group everything together...
C.
I like that, although Province might be more accurate than Region
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:20 pm
by yeti_c
FWIW...
Multi Bust
Baghdad is a Multi - suspect he made that account to post vitriol in this thread.
C.
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:01 pm
by Chirondom
So, is this going to continue?
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:32 pm
by mibi
Chirondom wrote:So, is this going to continue?
i'd say for another 5-10 years at least.
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:17 am
by Incandenza
Boooo. I'm looking forward to this map.
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:43 pm
by wcaclimbing
These are my thoughts when i saw this map:
"wow. amazing image there!"
"this one will be fun to play"
*looks at explanation of attacks and bonuses*
"

theres no way I'll understand that

"
*head explodes*
basically, the image looks great, but I am so hopelessly lost in the bonuses and attacking schemes for this map that I doubt I will be playing this one in a long time.
Score:
uber-complex maps---------1
my ability to understand----0
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:30 pm
by mibi
wcaclimbing wrote:These are my thoughts when i saw this map:
"wow. amazing image there!"
"this one will be fun to play"
*looks at explanation of attacks and bonuses*
"

theres no way I'll understand that

"
*head explodes*
basically, the image looks great, but I am so hopelessly lost in the bonuses and attacking schemes for this map that I doubt I will be playing this one in a long time.
Score:
uber-complex maps---------1
my ability to understand----0
welcome to Iraq, where few things come easy....
...but its not that hard once you figure it out... I will be posting a 'tutorial' when its quenched.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:55 am
by yeti_c
Poke...
XML update is now live...
C.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:27 am
by Coleman
I already wrote the xml but lack didn't implement the new code the way I expected him to so there is some rewriting to do.
Anyway, this map is no longer help up by the xml being impossible. You can Final Forge without xml.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:30 am
by yeti_c
Coleman wrote:I already wrote the xml but lack didn't implement the new code the way I expected him to so there is some rewriting to do.
He he he!!! -> Should be a simple search and replace though?
Coleman wrote:Anyway, this map is no longer help up by the xml being impossible. You can Final Forge without xml.
SAWEET!!!!
C.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:35 am
by Itrade
Holy crap this map is awesome, can't wait to play it.
How much longer until it's released?
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:37 pm
by oaktown
damn, does this mean I have to figure out how this map works and decide whether or not it deserves a gameplay stamp?
