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Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:20 pm
by /
There may be a possibility that the vowels are in more than one faction, which would be probable in a game of this size with so many possible scum.
anyways I still find what William was hinting at to be very scummy, in fact I believe he might be giving out the most scum tells out of anyone here.
Vote William
For one, on the first day he accused Joodoo's vote of being random when a bandwagon on fircoal was beginning, accusing Joodoo of voting randomly, when joodoo was actualy voting fircoal for voting randomly, logically william would have voted Fircoal if not some how connected (Scum faction)
Later during the discussion of Y's role He argues the existence of town affiliated serial killers, which really isn't one of the more common roles (I still don't think it's even a role in a normal game) leading to a couple of criticisms form other players, he continues to argue this existence as if it were fact, probably because he is a killer of some sort and would claim such a role if needed.
Later during the bandwaggon of Animorpherv1, William shows "sympathy" towards the accused
william18 wrote:I feel bad for animo, he is really getting a bad bashing in the mafia community.
then after he learns about his powerful anti scum role, helps his bandwagon on full speed.
william18 wrote:Hmm this seems suspicious to roleclaim when no one asked. Maybe an attempt to make sure he is considered. But seriously guys, after what he's pulled in the other games by him I highly doubt he'll put that much thought into this post.
william18 wrote:Vote animoprh. MAke sure he isn't able to get info a then blurt it out while he's dead.
william18 wrote:Lynch this guy quick. He is to dangerous to be kept alive.
william18 wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote: And just as dangerous dead, apparently.
Even more reason to kill him before he uses a trade.

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:27 pm
by InkL0sed
/ wrote:There may be a possibility that the vowels are in more than one faction, which would be probable in a game of this size with so many possible scum.
anyways I still find what William was hinting at to be very scummy, in fact I believe he might be giving out the most scum tells out of anyone here.
Vote William
For one, on the first day he accused Joodoo's vote of being random when a bandwagon on fircoal was beginning, accusing Joodoo of voting randomly, when joodoo was actualy voting fircoal for voting randomly, logically william would have voted Fircoal if not some how connected (Scum faction)
Later during the discussion of Y's role He argues the existence of town affiliated serial killers, which really isn't one of the more common roles (I still don't think it's even a role in a normal game) leading to a couple of criticisms form other players, he continues to argue this existence as if it were fact, probably because he is a killer of some sort and would claim such a role if needed.
Later during the bandwaggon of Animorpherv1, William shows "sympathy" towards the accused
william18 wrote:I feel bad for animo, he is really getting a bad bashing in the mafia community.
then after he learns about his powerful anti scum role, helps his bandwagon on full speed.
william18 wrote:Hmm this seems suspicious to roleclaim when no one asked. Maybe an attempt to make sure he is considered. But seriously guys, after what he's pulled in the other games by him I highly doubt he'll put that much thought into this post.
william18 wrote:Vote animoprh. MAke sure he isn't able to get info a then blurt it out while he's dead.
william18 wrote:Lynch this guy quick. He is to dangerous to be kept alive.
william18 wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote: And just as dangerous dead, apparently.
Even more reason to kill him before he uses a trade.
Alright, I buy it. vote william

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:35 pm
by william18
Alright, I buy it. vote william[/quote]

Looks like we just caught someone in a snare! Thats not very pro-town to vote someone immediatly after. Looks like your waiting for a window of opourtunity to do this without getting caught.

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:41 pm
by /
william18 wrote:Alright, I buy it. vote william
Looks like we just caught someone in a snare! Thats not very pro-town to vote someone immediatly after. Looks like your waiting for a window of opourtunity to do this without getting caught.[/quote]
Are you sure? I thought my reasons were enough for at least two votes. :P

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:27 pm
by pmchugh
william18 wrote:
inklosed wrote:Alright, I buy it. vote william
Looks like we just caught someone in a snare! Thats not very pro-town to vote someone immediatly after. Looks like your waiting for a window of opourtunity to do this without getting caught.
Im not really sure what you mean by this, sounds like you cant argue against '/' points so you picked on the person that voted you for merely agreeing with what / said. Answer /'s post or i will assume you are scum trying to shift attention. FOS wiliam18

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:41 pm
by Neoteny
This is my posting face. Seriously.
:|

I apologize for my inactivity. I've been busy. Anyhow, it's difficult to pick anyone out at this rate of activity. / tends to be fairly level-headed, from what I've seen, so I'll follow up and see what we can find.

Vote: will

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:42 pm
by InkL0sed
william18 wrote:Alright, I buy it. vote william
Looks like we just caught someone in a snare! Thats not very pro-town to vote someone immediatly after. Looks like your waiting for a window of opourtunity to do this without getting caught.[/quote]

Right... because with two votes you're very much in danger of being lynched any second now :roll:

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:43 pm
by InkL0sed
Can someone also explain what FOS means? I've seen it before, and I think I understand what its intent, but I don't actually know its meaning.

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:44 pm
by Neoteny
InkL0sed wrote:Can someone also explain what FOS means? I've seen it before, and I think I understand what its intent, but I don't actually know its meaning.
Finger of Suspicion...

Dun dun dunnn!

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:07 pm
by FloresDelMal
FOS william

i dont want to be unfair william18, but if you dont have any solid deffense next thing ill do is vote for you.

unrelated: thanks for lovo for explain the deal with the usurper

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:18 pm
by cmckinney
FOS =finger of suspicion. Which means ur suspicious of a person, but ur not willing to vote for them yet

I.E i am very suspicious of william right now FOS William

And that's for real...defend yourself

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:21 pm
by borox0
William, can you explain why exactly you jumped from defending animo to trying to take him out? I'm not ready to vote yet.

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:43 pm
by LSU Tiger Josh
Vote Count

3 Will (/, Ink, Neo)

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:04 am
by Fircoal
William can you please defend yourself better against what / claims. He seems a bit scummy, and I can see the logic against him, but I don't really think that he'd be a suitable lynch, something makes me think that he's pro-town. ;)

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:29 am
by walelia2
Fircoal wrote:William can you please defend yourself better against what / claims. He seems a bit scummy, and I can see the logic against him, but I don't really think that he'd be a suitable lynch, something makes me think that he's pro-town. ;)
I agree. So... I'm not willing to vote yet, but a big FOS William

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:39 am
by Joodoo
No Lynch
william seems a bit suspicious but I always suspect the ppl who makes suspicions first...

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:56 am
by FloresDelMal
no lynch is quite scummy :roll:

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:57 am
by pmchugh
Joodoo wrote:No Lynch
william seems a bit suspicious but I always suspect the ppl who makes suspicions first...
i suggest you dont vote no lynch as (in my opinion) it only helps scum, we dont gain any info and scum get to make another kill leaving us in the same position as the day before except that we have one less person. Also this seems to be a move to protect william, fos Joodoo

Vote william you need to defend yourself, the fact you totally avoided /'s post makes me very suspicious of you.

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:48 am
by Joodoo
pmchugh wrote:
Joodoo wrote:No Lynch
william seems a bit suspicious but I always suspect the ppl who makes suspicions first...
i suggest you dont vote no lynch as (in my opinion) it only helps scum, we dont gain any info and scum get to make another kill leaving us in the same position as the day before except that we have one less person. Also this seems to be a move to protect william, fos Joodoo

Vote william you need to defend yourself, the fact you totally avoided /'s post makes me very suspicious of you.
what if william was actually not scum?
and feel free to suspect me...

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:53 am
by pmchugh
Joodoo wrote: what if william was actually not scum?
and feel free to suspect me...
then simply dont vote him, dont vote no lynch, tell us your reasons for not wanting him lynched and then everyone will try to come to a desicion as to whether or not he is acting summy enough to get their vote and push him far enough to claim, and then if he claims badly we lynch him, if he claims well enough so we think he is town we unvote and move onto someone else. Im waiting to hear from him first regarding /'s post after that i will decide to unvote him or not.

Of course im not saying we should do all this now im just trying to help you to realise why it is bad to vote no lynch and what should be done instead. Feel free to vote anyone who sounds more scummy to you but just dont vote no lynch. (this early in the game anyway).

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:54 am
by kalishnikov
FloresDelMal wrote:
kalishnikov wrote:
Unrelated: the kill on the godfather was most likely a kill by a vig or other killer, not a PGO. When the scum designate a target and send in the kill, the kill is actually 'carried out' by one of the goons, the godfather doesn't get his hands dirty so the PGO would have killed the goon, not the GF. This early in the game the GF kill was a random act of god, handed to us by someone who took a guess and picked a name, either SK or vig, doesn't matter.

I've got something to double-check that just occurred to me, I'll be back.
i think this makes much sense, and ponderign how come this happened, have anyone thought that the goon might be an usurper? i think that could explain why no townie died ^^

p.s: i am totally with walelia about the abbreviations, please guys lets make this game more newbiew friendly, i think i am not the only one who is playing mafia for the first time, and the flash with the roles is utterly cute but if i recall well does not include the abbreviations.
Possible, but as lovo said when theres a Usurper (my favorite role, by the way) the GF tends to be bulletproof so the only way the Usurper can win is to betray him/have the GF lynched. I'd think it more likely that the scum either picked a protected target to kill or that with the GF kill the mod put a moratorium on scum kills for the night since the 'Big Man' was dead and couldn't call the shots. (that last bit is only likely if LSU handles NA's [night actions] chronologically [in the order he gets them'] but my money is on the scum hit a protected target)

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:03 am
by kalishnikov
pmchugh wrote:
Joodoo wrote:No Lynch
william seems a bit suspicious but I always suspect the ppl who makes suspicions first...
i suggest you dont vote no lynch as (in my opinion) it only helps scum, we dont gain any info and scum get to make another kill leaving us in the same position as the day before except that we have one less person. Also this seems to be a move to protect william, fos Joodoo
Agreed completely on the no-lynch option, most of the time it tends to be a bad idea but there are a few situations that it can be beneficial to the town, right now isn't one of those whoever. I don't think Joodoo is scummy for suggesting it, to a new player it seems a good option especially if he doubts the player in the process of being lynched is scum. It's usually lack of experience that makes it look appealing, not scumminess. (no offense intended by that)

Anywho, unvote, vote: william. I'm not entirely sure he's scum but we don't have much else and his 'defense' did come across as somewhat scummy, we can at least get some pressure on him and get a claim, if nothing else.

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:12 am
by walelia2
Since we've gotten no solid defence from William, I am changing my FOS to a vote... if he defends himself well enough, or there is more proof against someone else later, I will change accordingly... but for now-

VOTE WILLIAM

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:13 am
by walelia2
And thank you for the explanation on a "No-Lynch" vote. Very helpful. It does seem to be a logical option at first.

Re: Alphabet Mafia Day 2. Sam(Godfather) Killed Night 1

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:54 am
by mr. incrediball
william seems scummy atm, and his only "defence" seems to be a jump on whoever agreed with /. (bad memory!)

oh, and how many is it too lynch? there are 6 votes on william atm.