Conquer Club

lostatlimbo wrote:Lastly, I'm confused as to why you've colored the territories differently. Visually this suggests there are bonuses to be had by holding all of a section/continent, but there is nothing in legend or original post to confirm this. If there are no continent bonuses, why not just unify them? Its confusing and doesn't add anything to the quality of the map, imo. I spent a couple minutes considering the gameplay implications of having certain bonuses divided by river warriors before I realized they weren't bonuses!

lostatlimbo wrote:Seems all the discussion is about the title, but what about those impassables?

The map generally looks rather spiffy, but the impassables... well, they look like floating blobs. Are they supposed to be rocks? They remind me of caulk or shaving cream or something. I mean no offense, but these really stand out (in a negative way) on an otherwise good looking map.

I'm also unclear as to the purpose of the mustard between Shaka Kahn and Vusumuzi, as well as Jadzia/Xop and Sbu. Is this line also meant to be impassable? It is not currently listed in the legend as such.

I'd also reconsider the solid red "150 yard" line. While I understand its purpose, the visual suggestion is that it too is impassable. If you changed it to a dotted line, shaded those 19 territories differently or even just simplified it to any territory touching the... sandbags? giant worms? I think that would serve the same purpose without the bright red eyesore.

Lastly, I'm confused as to why you've colored the territories differently. Visually this suggests there are bonuses to be had by holding all of a section/continent, but there is nothing in legend or original post to confirm this. If there are no continent bonuses, why not just unify them? Its confusing and doesn't add anything to the quality of the map, imo. I spent a couple minutes considering the gameplay implications of having certain bonuses divided by river warriors before I realized they weren't bonuses!

Hope that helps

lostatlimbo wrote:Seems all the discussion is about the title, but what about those impassables?

The map generally looks rather spiffy, but the impassables... well, they look like floating blobs. Are they supposed to be rocks? They remind me of caulk or shaving cream or something. I mean no offense, but these really stand out (in a negative way) on an otherwise good looking map.

I'm also unclear as to the purpose of the mustard between Shaka Kahn and Vusumuzi, as well as Jadzia/Xop and Sbu. Is this line also meant to be impassable? It is not currently listed in the legend as such.

I'd also reconsider the solid red "150 yard" line. While I understand its purpose, the visual suggestion is that it too is impassable. If you changed it to a dotted line, shaded those 19 territories differently or even just simplified it to any territory touching the... sandbags? giant worms? I think that would serve the same purpose without the bright red eyesore.

Lastly, I'm confused as to why you've colored the territories differently. Visually this suggests there are bonuses to be had by holding all of a section/continent, but there is nothing in legend or original post to confirm this. If there are no continent bonuses, why not just unify them? Its confusing and doesn't add anything to the quality of the map, imo. I spent a couple minutes considering the gameplay implications of having certain bonuses divided by river warriors before I realized they weren't bonuses!

Hope that helps

Victor Sullivan wrote:Each area is an "iButho", and, if you read the legend in the lower-left corner, one receives +2 for holding a chieftain and 2 territories or "zulus" within the same iButho (and +2 for each 2 additional territories within the same iButho).

-Sully

Gillipig wrote:The bushes did looks worse a couple of updates ago but they're still not good enough and I'm not satisfied with the rocks. The different forms and coloring of them creates a bit of a confusion!

Victor Sullivan wrote:Lostatlimbo, your comments about the impassables do have merit. I must say I'm not fond of the green blobs (presumably foliage, or something of the like?), and the trees could perhaps stand to be more differing in shape throughout a single area.
-Sully

lostatlimbo wrote:Ah, that makes more sense. I didn't realize that zulu = territory. I thought that the river warriors were Zulus. Neither of those terms are defined on the map.

A suggestion to clarify this in the legend:

"Zulus are divided into several iButho - each ruled by one chieftain (+2 autodeploy). Chieftain with every 2 zulus in his iButho +2"

Gillipig wrote:Rorke's Drift is not a battle site as well known as Pearl Harbor etc.

cairnswk wrote:koontz1973, Wow, i didn't expect this to happen so fast but glad you ar thinking over it with some sleep because this is when you will find the solution...believe me, it just happens this way.

The title....I'd get rid of the running zulu and spear throwing images in the title and just have two Zulu shields there either side along with the VCs.

Sniper08 wrote:i still think you should change the arm in the title to a british icon so that both sides are represented.

as for the trees id like to see them go back to being all green.

i also still think you need to redesign or rethink the large rocks as impassibles.they just dont suit the map imo.possible replacements hills/valley/savannah/grassland. you should take atleast 2 rocks out and change it to another impassible type especially that claw type rock beside nbada which just looks terrible(no offence)

Sniper08 wrote:you have a shield for the zulus so maybe a rifle for the british?

natty_dread wrote:1. There's a weird black line in the rock next to Bongiwe.

2. Try making the bushes less flat, give them a more bumpy texture.

3. The Shaka walls. Why not make them similar to the walls of the soldiers?

DiM wrote:didn't the british have a coat of arms or something? i'm pretty sure that each regiment has a symbol. perhaps use that along the zulu shield for the title.

natty_dread wrote:Here's what I would do to the bushes:



I basically made a copy of the bushes, then merged the copy to a black layer, blurred it with gaussian blur 2px, added some hsv noise with value 65, then embossed the layer, then blurred again with gaussian blur. Then I masked the layer to the bushes only and set the layer on grain merge 50. You can adjust the opacity of the layer until it looks good, though.

DiM wrote:the trees are at an angle while the rocks/walls/bushes are from a top view.
this needs to be attended before tweaking them.

i remember posting a tutorial about bushes and trees from top down that took less than 30 seconds to do and with very decent results.
however i can't seem to find it as the tools and tutorials sub-forum is under construction.
maybe pm thenobodies and ask him.