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Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:57 am
by jak111
jgordon1111 wrote:Something is bothering me here Jak you claim you switched Codi and the general N2 what was your purpose for that.
I believed at least one would be scum, and with those two being the main targets the other day. If one was scum and killed the other one he'd in face end up killing himself. Since that did NOT happen they are innnocent. Though something is bugging my jgordon.. Are you the one who tried killing him? You're one of the 5 we haven't confirmed safe yet.

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:01 am
by jgordon1111
No I did not try to kill either of them, another question Jak who did you switch night one.

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:06 am
by codierose
Sparticus where are you
everywhere not very fair you post our roles when where dead and not the scum what did the fbi agent do fso agent do we have no clue whats been lynched.
not looking good for
jgord dazza mob lehaar not really stepped up to the plate wow hold the press we are innocent except lehaar but that didnt go to well
skill and WW do you have anything that can help with the lynch with 5 possible cleared we still need one more for the lynch the chances are 5 others that are left are scum and third party's
also who did general get a lead on at one point he defended Mob but thats about it.

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:17 am
by dazza2008
codierose wrote:Sparticus where are you
everywhere not very fair you post our roles when where dead and not the scum what did the fbi agent do fso agent do we have no clue whats been lynched.
not looking good for
jgord dazza mob lehaar not really stepped up to the plate wow hold the press we are innocent except lehaar but that didnt go to well
skill and WW do you have anything that can help with the lynch with 5 possible cleared we still need one more for the lynch the chances are 5 others that are left are scum and third party's
also who did general get a lead on at one point he defended Mob but thats about it.
What do you want codie? A claim or something? There are 5 of us not "cleared" that does not mean 5 of us are guilty.

I still do not understand why you are cleared. There were 3 kills last night you were clearly not targetted by 1 of the killers but this does not clear you of being 1 of the other 2 does it?

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:19 am
by jgordon1111
anyone that thinks codierose is in the clear is wrong. thank you for your post codi, was waiting for it.

This is why I asked jak why he switched codie and the general

Edoc was thinking codie was suspicious, Your responses to mafia dying were a little off, and you were helping with the direction of those investigations. Edoc is now dead

codie is calling out general trying for a lynch, general is now dead.

So now I ask you codierose beings Jak says he switched you and the general. And he died. Who did you target N2 ? I know should we let the others in on it. Or do you explain it. A claim might now be in order from you, and the possibility of Jak being town busdriver or flat town just jumped big time.

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:22 am
by Leehar
codierose wrote:ok leeher you left out watcher and mayor are they normally aligned to the town i know its says don mayor but the role is mayor not don so your theory don't really hold any weight
good points, http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Governor can be any alignment? Tho I confess I actually thought the don was a godfather or something and had to check back that it was mayor
I didn't remember the watcher, so I guess thats a hole in my theory, problem with making overarching assumptions, but since my last few games I haven't seen any VT's either, I thought It was quite possible something similar was happening here. The all pr thing could possibly still be happening but guess my linking role names to alignment may not be.
I'm sorry for casting aspersions on your character saf, but I'm still at a loss why you picked me as a 'submariner', when all you seemingly do is pop up and try direct cases only towards 'possible'(since I'm not one) inactives which I imagine as going through an easy route of acting like you're involved when you're not?

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:25 am
by SPARTACUS1974
ok codie im here some of us work in the day lol, will read through then post.

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:38 am
by jak111
The first night switch is a secret. But the second night seems to have some findings. I can't tell you the first night one because I might need it for later ;) Can't have the baddies know who to attack can we? Codie is a noob/kid yes, but he was definately the targeted individual last night. We are ASSUMING there are 3 full parties in this game, what if ghost was just on his own team to try and outlive the fbi or some other win condition?

I am afraid for the good guys with 3 kills, but perhaps I can find out more tonight if we don't catch them tonight. Also, just a suggestion perhaps Codie is the town idiot? (A role that as the wiki is telling me acts like a dumb*** and tries to get other townies dead while himself STILL being on the townies side)

What's even more concerning is we went the first night with only 2 killed, then we killed off TWO agents in one day and had 3 of us killed the next night? Either there are 5 baddies in all, or someone on our team has a power to kill someone as well and accidently taken out one of our own?

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:45 am
by SPARTACUS1974
Ok had a read through and we had a bad night , but 1 thing is bothering me jak made his claim and said he moved codi if this is true this is a good thing , but if its not and jak and codi are scum they have moved all the attention on to 5 other players me being 1 of those great move on jaks part.But for me to believe this claim i need to know more about codi role please it must be important for you to save him?

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:48 am
by jak111
I'm not a seer or whatever can see roles Sparta, if I knew peoples roles the baddies would've backfired on themselves. I just know codie was targeted by an unknown source that I managed to deflect toward another of our own unfortuneally.

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:59 am
by SPARTACUS1974
yea seer would be good for us ,like i said im just learning the game so not to sure on the roles yet , but can you only move mafia ?or can you also move scum?

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:02 pm
by jak111
I can move both, so if I move scum with the guy he's trying to kill, he kills himself ;)

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:07 pm
by jgordon1111
I say this, lets wait for codie to defend himself, Oh damn just saw your mistake JAK. How does a busdriver know about who is targeted? Also in your previous post you declared you suspected one of them being scum, And thats why you changed them, Not that you as a busdriver knew codie was being targeted. FOS JAK. But now more sure than ever on codie VOTE CODIEROSE

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:08 pm
by SPARTACUS1974
nice 1, so how do you know that codi is deff not scum? as there maybe 2 scum groups he could be in 1 of those?

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:20 pm
by jak111
jgordon1111 wrote:I say this, lets wait for codie to defend himself, Oh damn just saw your mistake JAK. How does a busdriver know about who is targeted? Also in your previous post you declared you suspected one of them being scum, And thats why you changed them, Not that you as a busdriver knew codie was being targeted. FOS JAK. But now more sure than ever on codie VOTE CODIEROSE
Vote Jgordon for not being that bright.. How did I know??? Well lets see, if I switch two people around and one of them dies obviously the other one was their target -.- This vote is strictly because you're being too defensive when we're just trying to find the scum, for not thinking before you speak about my role, and for voting for someone that is pretty much cleared. When YOU'RE one of the 5 up on the chopping block I wouldn't be throwing around accusations as regularly as you do bud.

Unless of course, you were scum trying to weasel your way out..

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:32 pm
by jgordon1111
LoL not being defensive at all JAK but now you are, I didnt vote you, I voted Codie because I think he may have the stronger role of the 2 of you, and he hasnt claimed yet. You changing the way you described your role is what I found to be a problem. That and the fact you are the one that cleared codie on your list. That together seems very scummy to me.

I already stated why I think codie needed to claim because edoc was going that direction but got killed before he could pursue it.

Then you jump in and claim and clear codie by (switching him with the general who was mafia) saying first you did it because you thought one was scum, then you change up saying that you knew codie was targeted by an unknown source thats why you changed them. UH I dont think busdrivers get to know if someone is being targeted. So you have now stepped out of the busdriver role into a watcher role if you know someone was targeted.

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:33 pm
by dazza2008
Oh my god. Why does everyone think they are cleared?

Jak you are not cleared. You claimed to be the busdriver but its in no way proven.

Codie is in no way cleared even if you did swith him. It inly clears him of responibilty of 1 of the kills. he could easily be involved in another 1.

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:37 pm
by codierose
jgordon1111 wrote:anyone that thinks codierose is in the clear is wrong. thank you for your post codi, was waiting for it.

This is why I asked jak why he switched codie and the general

Edoc was thinking codie was suspicious, Your responses to mafia dying were a little off, and you were helping with the direction of those investigations. Edoc is now dead

codie is calling out general trying for a lynch, general is now dead.

So now I ask you codierose beings Jak says he switched you and the general. And he died. Who did you target N2 ? I know should we let the others in on it. Or do you explain it. A claim might now be in order from you, and the possibility of Jak being town busdriver or flat town just jumped big time.
jgordon go back at the beginning of the day and read all my posts that will give you all your answers also whom am i voting for and whom have i got the fos on please dont skim look from the beginning of day 3

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:40 pm
by codierose
also i keep asking for the 5 to help me with my suspicions and all that has done is you point the fos on me all that does is helps safari and others cases and make you look more scummy help me help you

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:48 pm
by jgordon1111
Did not skim a single page codie, read all of them closely. You must have missed my one question for you though, an answer please who did you target N2 and why. I believe the answer to that probably is going to help everyone here. Because of you 2 mafia are dead directly or indirectly. Edoc who was leaning toward pressuring you and The General who was switched with you. BY JAK.

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:50 pm
by jak111
jgordon1111 wrote:LoL not being defensive at all JAK but now you are, I didnt vote you, I voted Codie because I think he may have the stronger role of the 2 of you, and he hasnt claimed yet. You changing the way you described your role is what I found to be a problem. That and the fact you are the one that cleared codie on your list. That together seems very scummy to me.

I already stated why I think codie needed to claim because edoc was going that direction but got killed before he could pursue it.

Then you jump in and claim and clear codie by (switching him with the general who was mafia) saying first you did it because you thought one was scum, then you change up saying that you knew codie was targeted by an unknown source thats why you changed them. UH I dont think busdrivers get to know if someone is being targeted. So you have now stepped out of the busdriver role into a watcher role if you know someone was targeted.
At the moment you are in no way helping yourself, saying I changed and I 'knew' he was good, and I didn't know until I switched him up, until you read my posts fully don't bother posting a fight with me because until you stop being so damn ignorant my vote stays on you.

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:51 pm
by codierose
another one jgord who said this
Man that was a great night for mafia...
what makes you think i targeted anyone on n2
and why because of me 2 mafia are dead ??

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:54 pm
by jgordon1111
You stated that you knew codie was targeted from an unknown source not me. And I asked how a "busdriver" knows when someone is being targeted.

This is a friendly game Jak please do not resort to name calling.

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:05 pm
by jak111
ignorant is not a name calling, its a term used to describe people who do not know about something, look it up.
-.- and I didn't say I knew until AFTER I did it gordon -.-

Re: Italian Style Mafia Thread: Day 3 (10/18)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:08 pm
by codierose
jak if your holding back something from N1 its pointless holding it back now you have already claimed you need to provide all info you can