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Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 2:32 pm
by Lindax
betiko wrote:
Lindax wrote:
PS: Hope I got it right this time....


nope! :lol:
I have different stuff for almost every clan (points or wins/losses)! :P

you should definitely enter a formula on your points column so that they add the wins/draws/loss instead of doing it manually!
You should try to enter a formula for finish matches so that they add up with the w/d/l matches finished as well... My adivce is to have as little manual entries as possible and as much doublecheck columns outside of the chart that check as much sums as possible (160 games per clan, you are supposed to get 880 wins and losses total when all finishes, sum of GD=0 and so on)


I had everything checked by two other people.... And I know that in this table not everything adds up.

Once again, can you be more specific?

Lx

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 2:37 pm
by betiko
Lindax wrote:
betiko wrote:
Lindax wrote:
PS: Hope I got it right this time....


nope! :lol:
I have different stuff for almost every clan (points or wins/losses)! :P

you should definitely enter a formula on your points column so that they add the wins/draws/loss instead of doing it manually!
You should try to enter a formula for finish matches so that they add up with the w/d/l matches finished as well... My adivce is to have as little manual entries as possible and as much doublecheck columns outside of the chart that check as much sums as possible (160 games per clan, you are supposed to get 880 wins and losses total when all finishes, sum of GD=0 and so on)


I had everything checked by two other people.... And I know that in this table not everything adds up.

Once again, can you be more specific?

Lx


sure! here is what I have right now with just 6 games pending (note that I don't award 1 point yet when a team reaches 4 wins and we don't know if it finishes in tie or win for them)

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Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 6:09 pm
by Lindax
Man, I hope you weren't joking. I just spent the last 5 hours doing the clans we had different totally from scratch. I'm now waiting for somebody else doing the same, so we can make sure we get it right.

Looks like I have RET, KORT and MM correct and you don't. May have to do something with forfeits not being registered correctly yet in the database?

Also looks like I made a mistake with the game count of TOFU, FALL and FOED. None of it makes a difference for the ranking though.

RA has a 2 point deduction from their final score, so they ended up with 13 points.

I'll confirm when I have the double-check done.

Thanks,

Lx

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:28 pm
by betiko
Woops sorry mate for contributing to making you spend that much time on it!

From what I remember, there is just 1 sanction I took into account, i don t really remember, I think it was a ace-ra match or something like that with only 7 games played and you told me that the 8th was going to ace (only made a difference for the gd) really not sure about the clans involved, can look tomorrow when i have the spreadsheet, i think it was a ace-ra from round 7.... Ish... From the tip of my head regarding a few month old sanction.

So -2pts for RA for multiple infractions or something? Those points aren t attributed to another clan right? I really don t understand how the good players from RA can let themselves get screwed in all the competitions they play by their catastrophical leader. There can be some minor screw ups in other clan, but if there's a big sanction for major organizational f*ck up, you can bet it's gotta be them.

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:41 pm
by rockfist
I think we had one game in a recent match where we were awarded a win because of our opponent timing out in Nuke spoils (several times). The match was a win anyway and it wouldn't affect the overall outcome of the league, but I remember reading that. Don't know if that is in the game totals or not. Either way it's the three games going (two of ours and one of ACE's) that matter.

Re: [CL6] Premier Division (Last few games ongoing)

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:17 am
by betiko
I just had a look. It was indeed a RA-ACE matchup that ended 2-5 on the clan tab and you told me lindax that the remaining game was forfeited and the game attributed to ACE (so counted as a 2-6 for ace).
This is the only sanction applied on my spreadsheet.

sanction number 2 would be -2 points for RA (nothing changing for any of its opponents, and the games stay the same for the GD?). This one doesn't appear on my ranking as I wasn't aware of it.

Also, I have rechecked RET, KORT and MM as you mentioned there is a problem with my numbers, but they are all identical to the clan tab result; I have rechecked my formulas that add the wins and defeats and all the cells they are refering to are correct.

It's very likely that I might have missed some sanctions as I haven't really been following this thread, just the scores on the tab.

(note: IA has won a game since I posted my ranking and that game obviously isn't included)

Re: [CL6] Premier Division (Last few games ongoing)

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:55 am
by Lindax
betiko wrote:I just had a look. It was indeed a RA-ACE matchup that ended 2-5 on the clan tab and you told me lindax that the remaining game was forfeited and the game attributed to ACE (so counted as a 2-6 for ace).
This is the only sanction applied on my spreadsheet.

sanction number 2 would be -2 points for RA (nothing changing for any of its opponents, and the games stay the same for the GD?). This one doesn't appear on my ranking as I wasn't aware of it.

Also, I have rechecked RET, KORT and MM as you mentioned there is a problem with my numbers, but they are all identical to the clan tab result; I have rechecked my formulas that add the wins and defeats and all the cells they are refering to are correct.

It's very likely that I might have missed some sanctions as I haven't really been following this thread, just the scores on the tab.

(note: IA has won a game since I posted my ranking and that game obviously isn't included)


All the forfeits are posted in the "Active War Game" thread, which is now in Archives.

They are not all incorporated in the database yet....

Lx

Re: [CL6] Premier Division (Last few games ongoing)

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 1:18 pm
by betiko
Lindax wrote:All the forfeits are posted in the "Active War Game" thread, which is now in Archives.

They are not all incorporated in the database yet....

Lx


ok that would be the last post you made:

Lindax wrote:All forfeits Division Phase:

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Note: RA has 2 points deducted from their final score.

Lx


If I undertsand correctly:

round 5:
KORT-MM: tab score says 6-2 KORT, out of the 2 games you've listed, 1 was won by kort the other by MM, so the final official score is 5-3 kort?
RA-ACE: tab says 2-5 ACE, final score 2-6 (already taken in account)

round 11:
TOFU-RET final score 8-0 instead of the 7-1 from the tab

that would explain our different numbers for kort, mm, ret and tofu then (and points for ra). Let me know if I understood the corrections to be made! ;)

Re: [CL6] Premier Division (Last few games ongoing)

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 2:55 pm
by Lindax
betiko wrote:
Lindax wrote:All the forfeits are posted in the "Active War Game" thread, which is now in Archives.

They are not all incorporated in the database yet....

Lx


ok that would be the last post you made:

Lindax wrote:All forfeits Division Phase:

Image

Note: RA has 2 points deducted from their final score.

Lx


If I undertsand correctly:

round 5:
KORT-MM: tab score says 6-2 KORT, out of the 2 games you've listed, 1 was won by kort the other by MM, so the final official score is 5-3 kort?
RA-ACE: tab says 2-5 ACE, final score 2-6 (already taken in account)

round 11:
TOFU-RET final score 8-0 instead of the 7-1 from the tab

that would explain our different numbers for kort, mm, ret and tofu then (and points for ra). Let me know if I understood the corrections to be made! ;)


The forfeits are also registered in the listings of games per round.

Yes, you understood the "corrections". ;)

Lx

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 6:18 am
by Armandolas
hyposquasher wrote:Blast. So close for ACE. I know it's not over yet, but hats off to TOFU for a great performance in the league. I feel like we did great, but they did even better. Maybe we get a star for winning 100 games? :P

Congrats, TOFU, hopefully not overly premature.


Indeed you deserve a star. In the preleminary round we had a spetacular performance..i was amazed until i saw yours.
Now this final round, such a balance again and victory will be decided by 1 win ...AGAIN..after a crazy CC4 match
Amazing epic battles between both clans. Hope we can meet in CC Finals.

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:02 am
by betiko
Armandolas wrote:
hyposquasher wrote:Blast. So close for ACE. I know it's not over yet, but hats off to TOFU for a great performance in the league. I feel like we did great, but they did even better. Maybe we get a star for winning 100 games? :P

Congrats, TOFU, hopefully not overly premature.


Indeed you deserve a star. In the preleminary round we had a spetacular performance..i was amazed until i saw yours.
Now this final round, such a balance again and victory will be decided by 1 win ...AGAIN..after a crazy CC4 match
Amazing epic battles between both clans. Hope we can meet in CC Finals.


Sorry but that won t happen. Set a date for a casual war if you want ;)

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 3:11 pm
by IcePack
betiko wrote:
Armandolas wrote:
hyposquasher wrote:Blast. So close for ACE. I know it's not over yet, but hats off to TOFU for a great performance in the league. I feel like we did great, but they did even better. Maybe we get a star for winning 100 games? :P

Congrats, TOFU, hopefully not overly premature.


Indeed you deserve a star. In the preleminary round we had a spetacular performance..i was amazed until i saw yours.
Now this final round, such a balance again and victory will be decided by 1 win ...AGAIN..after a crazy CC4 match
Amazing epic battles between both clans. Hope we can meet in CC Finals.


Sorry but that won t happen. Set a date for a casual war if you want ;)


Not will you be meeting LHDD ;) might need to set up two casual wars if you want ;)

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 4:26 pm
by betiko
IcePack wrote:
betiko wrote:
Armandolas wrote:
hyposquasher wrote:Blast. So close for ACE. I know it's not over yet, but hats off to TOFU for a great performance in the league. I feel like we did great, but they did even better. Maybe we get a star for winning 100 games? :P

Congrats, TOFU, hopefully not overly premature.


Indeed you deserve a star. In the preleminary round we had a spetacular performance..i was amazed until i saw yours.
Now this final round, such a balance again and victory will be decided by 1 win ...AGAIN..after a crazy CC4 match
Amazing epic battles between both clans. Hope we can meet in CC Finals.


Sorry but that won t happen. Set a date for a casual war if you want ;)


Not will you be meeting LHDD ;) might need to set up two casual wars if you want ;)


Cause the final will be lhdd-kort amirite? :P

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:16 pm
by jackal31
hyposquasher wrote:Blast. So close for ACE. I know it's not over yet, but hats off to TOFU for a great performance in the league. I feel like we did great, but they did even better. Maybe we get a star for winning 100 games? :P

Congrats, TOFU, hopefully not overly premature.


That was kind of you Hypo. Winning 100 games is not something to ignore for sure. ACE had presented us with a couple slugfests in the last year....does this premise another?

Very good show here.....looking forward to the next test.

Best of luck and looking forward to battling again.

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 4:45 pm
by Dako
4 games left.

MM vs IA
[game]15449412[/game]

RET vs TOFU
[game]15445973[/game]

ACE v FALL
[game]15432141[/game]

KORT v TNC
[game]15431381[/game]

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:49 pm
by Arama86n
IcePack wrote:
betiko wrote:
Armandolas wrote:
hyposquasher wrote:Blast. So close for ACE. I know it's not over yet, but hats off to TOFU for a great performance in the league. I feel like we did great, but they did even better. Maybe we get a star for winning 100 games? :P

Congrats, TOFU, hopefully not overly premature.


Indeed you deserve a star. In the preleminary round we had a spetacular performance..i was amazed until i saw yours.
Now this final round, such a balance again and victory will be decided by 1 win ...AGAIN..after a crazy CC4 match
Amazing epic battles between both clans. Hope we can meet in CC Finals.


Sorry but that won t happen. Set a date for a casual war if you want ;)


Not will you be meeting LHDD ;) might need to set up two casual wars if you want ;)


Oh, gentlmen. You're outdoing yourself in wittiness this evening :D
Yes, heavens knows we don't have enough to do with CL and CC. why don't we all set up a few casual wars against the likes of ACE, LHDD & Fallen... brilliant idea.
Excuse me while I phone my boss and let him know I might need a few months off for burnout, or better yet, maybe he has a pistol I can borrow and we can put me out of my misery now ;)

KoRT then potentially ACE... oh this is going to be a looong summer.

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:17 pm
by betiko
Arama86n wrote:
IcePack wrote:
betiko wrote:
Armandolas wrote:
hyposquasher wrote:Blast. So close for ACE. I know it's not over yet, but hats off to TOFU for a great performance in the league. I feel like we did great, but they did even better. Maybe we get a star for winning 100 games? :P

Congrats, TOFU, hopefully not overly premature.


Indeed you deserve a star. In the preleminary round we had a spetacular performance..i was amazed until i saw yours.
Now this final round, such a balance again and victory will be decided by 1 win ...AGAIN..after a crazy CC4 match
Amazing epic battles between both clans. Hope we can meet in CC Finals.


Sorry but that won t happen. Set a date for a casual war if you want ;)


Not will you be meeting LHDD ;) might need to set up two casual wars if you want ;)


Oh, gentlmen. You're outdoing yourself in wittiness this evening :D
Yes, heavens knows we don't have enough to do with CL and CC. why don't we all set up a few casual wars against the likes of ACE, LHDD & Fallen... brilliant idea.
Excuse me while I phone my boss and let him know I might need a few months off for burnout, or better yet, maybe he has a pistol I can borrow and we can put me out of my misery now ;)

KoRT then potentially ACE... oh this is going to be a looong summer.


Ace is really in a bad position right now to make it to the semi finals (although haven t looked at the games since 3-4 days), so seeing them in the final is a real long shot assumption!


And congrats tofu! This cl6 is yours now, no doubt after the point you ve just obtained against kort

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 7:48 pm
by jj3044
betiko wrote:
Arama86n wrote:
IcePack wrote:
betiko wrote:
Armandolas wrote:
hyposquasher wrote:Blast. So close for ACE. I know it's not over yet, but hats off to TOFU for a great performance in the league. I feel like we did great, but they did even better. Maybe we get a star for winning 100 games? :P

Congrats, TOFU, hopefully not overly premature.


Indeed you deserve a star. In the preleminary round we had a spetacular performance..i was amazed until i saw yours.
Now this final round, such a balance again and victory will be decided by 1 win ...AGAIN..after a crazy CC4 match
Amazing epic battles between both clans. Hope we can meet in CC Finals.


Sorry but that won t happen. Set a date for a casual war if you want ;)


Not will you be meeting LHDD ;) might need to set up two casual wars if you want ;)


Oh, gentlmen. You're outdoing yourself in wittiness this evening :D
Yes, heavens knows we don't have enough to do with CL and CC. why don't we all set up a few casual wars against the likes of ACE, LHDD & Fallen... brilliant idea.
Excuse me while I phone my boss and let him know I might need a few months off for burnout, or better yet, maybe he has a pistol I can borrow and we can put me out of my misery now ;)

KoRT then potentially ACE... oh this is going to be a looong summer.


Ace is really in a bad position right now to make it to the semi finals (although haven t looked at the games since 3-4 days), so seeing them in the final is a real long shot assumption!


And congrats tofu! This cl6 is yours now, no doubt after the point you ve just obtained against kort

Really bad position? You mean we need to win 2 games that at the moment are even? Tofu did it to us, and I think we have the stones to do it to FALL!

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 8:00 pm
by betiko
jj3044 wrote:
Really bad position? You mean we need to win 2 games that at the moment are even? Tofu did it to us, and I think we have the stones to do it to FALL!


Well you are in a really bad position in the sense that you need to win 2/2 tied games and fallen just 1/2. So yeah, i'd probably put that at 75-25 fallen, something like that. What is certain is that fallen is looking better to advance right now.

Re: [CL6] Premier Division (Last few games ongoing)

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 9:53 pm
by IcePack
I have a feeling in a day or two we will all have an answer here

Re: [CL6] Premier Division (Last few games ongoing)

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:55 pm
by Lindax
Is this thread about CL6 or is it about betiko declaring results for all kinds of competitions now, before they even happen?

Lx

Re: [CL6] Premier Division (Last few games ongoing)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 5:47 am
by betiko
Lindax wrote:Is this thread about CL6 or is it about betiko declaring results for all kinds of competitions now, before they even happen?

Lx


bah, this cl6 division 1 top positions involve most of the clans still in the CC5, the CL6 div1 is pretty much history by now as we all know who is going to win, so we're just all looking forward. :P

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 12:06 pm
by Lindax
I updated results up until now, completed matches only.

See page 1, second post, or click here >> Results May 11

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I did this for myself, so I thought I might as well share it. Nothing official though.

Image

Notes:

  • We have 5 matches still undecided and 6 games still ongoing.
  • Under "Matches" are all the decided matches.
  • Any clan that reached 4 game wins before the other clan in a match has that registered as a draw (MD).
  • Under "Games" are all the finished games.
  • APP = Additional Possible Points.
  • MPP = Maximum Possible Points.
  • GO = Games (still) Ongoing.

  • Under "NOTE":

    • s = Maximum final score reached.
    • x = Final position secured.
    • ^ = Possibility of moving up a position.
    • blank = None of the above + Possibility of moving down a position.

Only the first position is still being fought for. All other positions are now decided.

Lx

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 3:05 am
by Fewnix
So it is down to TOFU v ACE for #1 by this ranking, What will decide it? :-s

Lindax wrote:I updated results up until now, completed matches only.

See page 1, second post, or click here >> Results May 11

----

I did this for myself, so I thought I might as well share it. Nothing official though.

Image

Notes:

  • We have 5 matches still undecided and 6 games still ongoing.
  • Under "Matches" are all the decided matches.
  • Any clan that reached 4 game wins before the other clan in a match has that registered as a draw (MD).
  • Under "Games" are all the finished games.
  • APP = Additional Possible Points.
  • MPP = Maximum Possible Points.
  • GO = Games (still) Ongoing.

  • Under "NOTE":

    • s = Maximum final score reached.
    • x = Final position secured.
    • ^ = Possibility of moving up a position.
    • blank = None of the above + Possibility of moving down a position.

Only the first position is still being fought for. All other positions are now decided.

Lx

Re: [CL6] Premier Division

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 5:18 am
by betiko
Fewnix wrote:So it is down to TOFU v ACE for #1 by this ranking, What will decide it? :-s


it's already decided.

the only way ACE can win the league is by winning this:
ACE v FALL
[game]15432141[/game]


and hoping that TOFU will be losing losing this:
RET vs TOFU
[game]15445973[/game]

just ain't gonna happen at this stage. TOFU will finish with 1 extra point and ACE will not move from their actual score.

Congrats TOFU, 11 wins and 9 draws is a very impressive score. And congrats to ACE for the best win % of the tourney.