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Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:31 pm
by PopeBenXVI
Still Waiting on that Law. Not to say what you claim is not true but from what I understand, A company has the right to waste money in whatever way they want....... as they do it all the time now. Thats usually when they go out of business though. Corporations have an obligation to their stock holders but I don't know of a law that mandates they "must" have the highest profits possible but Stockholders will mostly push for it. Most businesses don't have stockholders either.
I just heard today about one of the former Obama campain workers who spilled the beans that acorn had a list of donors to work off of given to them by the Obama campain. No ties to them huh? He only donated almost 1 million to Acorn and now gave them his Donor list to work off of so they could have more money to commit more voter fraud.
The Acorn does not fall far from the Obama tree!
I also heard Obama say in his 1/2 hour propaganda ad that if you make $200,000 or less you will not see a tax increase. I thought it was $250,000? Well, it wont matter after those "Evil" bush tax cuts expire in 2010 because then all our taxes will go up anyway.
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:54 pm
by Juan_Bottom
PopeBenXVI wrote:Still Waiting on that Law. Not to say what you claim is not true but from what I understand,
Juan_Bottom wrote:You would ask me to cite sources when you yourself provide none?
I'm having trouble remembering the specific law actually, I can't seem to recall the original corporate charter either... It was shortly after they became recognized as "artifical persons." The law says that if a corporation can make a profit for it's shareholders, then it must. With the exclusion of course of selling out.
I do know that you have to have your corporate president sign off on the law when they file their articles of incorporation. But It's right on the tip of my tongue. Maybe someone like Oaktown or Player can remember the law.... I haven't delt with any corporations for like 2 years.
And again, if you would, pleas cite what the crack you're talking about? You would ask my sources while you yourself have none?
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:18 pm
by PopeBenXVI
I am not sure what you want me to cite so maybe you could explain or just google the topic yourself. I also already explained to you what Socialism is right after you asked me so go back and read it.
I did look for your law and could not find it so thats why I am asking you to show me where. Again, I am not saying it does not exist just that you seem to be sure and I can't find it.
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:37 pm
by Juan_Bottom
It is a ppart of the Corporate Law, though I can't remember the exact provision. And for some reason, it doesn't seem that anyone else knows. For some reason, Google isn't giving me the exact provision either, just wording from it.
the directors and officers of a corporation shall exercise their powers and discharge their duties with a view to the interests of the corporation and of the shareholders....
PopeBenXVI wrote:I did look look for your law and could not find it so thats why I am asking you to show me where
Read the Corporate Law, specifically I think, the provision about governance. I went through this once, and never want to look back again..
PopeBenXVI wrote:I am not sure what you want me to cite so maybe you could explain or just google the topic yourself. I also already explained to you what Socialism is right after you asked me so go back and read it.
I am talking about how Obama is a socialist so you can't vote for him, but McCain is less of a socialist so you can.
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:45 pm
by mpjh
Each state has its own corporate law, but most follow a model corporate law similar to you post Juan. Federal law governs through statutes like the Securities Act of 1933 which governs corporate conduct. The law that defines the corporation as a person is state law and may vary from state to state. I believe that there are Supreme Court decisions that have found the corporation to be a person for limited constitutional purposes. It is a big area and there is no single law to answer the question, however Juan is essentially correct.
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:54 pm
by PopeBenXVI
Thanks for the info, I don't see how it mandates max profits though. I already admited Mccain has some socialist tendencies along with many others in Government and that I am not happy with him. I see the entire package of Obama being much worse. His Healthcare plan of having government provide healthcare for all Americans is Socialism as it would be paid for by us in our increased taxes that he will allow and inact. Don't know what else you want to know regarding that. Tax the rich more and give that money to others who did not work for it. That is not American even though portions of that phylosophy are already in place they can become much worse.
Can any B.O. Tax Plan supporter explain to me how 95% of American's will get a tax cut when about 40% of American's don't pay income tax? I know math was never my strong point but can you try to explain that to me please? I keep trying to figure it out but all I come up with is that he is full of it.
95 - 40 = 95?...........Hmmmmm, maybe I am not accounting for taxpayer money going to Acorn
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:08 pm
by Simon Viavant
How many of the top .1% pays taxes honestly?
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:24 pm
by PopeBenXVI
You might find this helpful
http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/22652.html
So 95% of us will get a tax cut but 40% don't pay taxes right now........ my calculator must not be working right. It still shows he is full of it.
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:48 pm
by PopeBenXVI
I was pretty sure already but it is just as I thought. You can not opt out of Social security. The governement mismanages 12-15% of our income there already so why should we give them more taxes to mismanage a governement run healthcare program under Obama's Plan. I forget, who was it that claimed SS was not manditory?
The more taxes we pay the less freedom we have.
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:04 am
by mpjh
PopeBenXVI wrote:Thanks for the info, Mccain has some socialist tendencies along with many others in Government. Don't know what else you want to know regarding that. Tax the rich more and give that money to others. I keep trying to figure it out but all I come up with is that.
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:13 am
by pimpdave
PopeBenXVI wrote:
The more taxes we pay the less freedom we have.
That's funny, cause that's not what you guys called the indulgences.
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:13 am
by PopeBenXVI
I guess it could also be called the cut your pimp gets. I am sure Obama's tax plan will take more though.
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:19 am
by mpjh
PopeBenXVI wrote:I guess it could also be called Obama's tax plan.
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:10 am
by Backglass
So Popey, I am curious.
If those 40% you focus on were removed from the plan...essentially only those who paid taxes saw a benefit. Would you like Obama's plan then?
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:48 pm
by PopeBenXVI
You will need to define what you mean more specificly by "remove" ....What is the plan then, give me details on how your plan would work?
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:25 pm
by mpjh
It would work well.
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:29 pm
by PopeBenXVI
Yes, you have obviously laid out a clear plan
Re: all obama threads merged
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:58 pm
by mpjh
Thank you.
Why I'm Voting for Obama
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:16 am
by InkL0sed
1) Obama is black. I can't resist black guys, they make me hot.
2) He is particularly sexy. I'm hoping if I vote for him, that might one day get me in his pants.
3) I hate America, and nothing destroys America more than a young, exciting President who makes good speeches. He's like our own little Anti-Christ! I love it.
Re: Why I'm Voting for Obama
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:17 am
by Sir. Ricco
InkL0sed wrote:1) Obama is black. I can't resist black guys, they make me hot.
2) He is particularly sexy. I'm hoping if I vote for him, that might one day get me in his pants.
3) I hate America, and nothing destroys America more than a young, exciting President who makes good speeches. He's like our own little Anti-Christ! I love it.
I'm John McCain and I approve this message!
Re: Why I'm Voting for Obama
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:39 am
by nagerous
Aren't you too young to vote Ink?
Then again I can't talk, I'm too British to vote.
Re: Why I'm Voting for Obama
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:41 am
by InkL0sed
nagerous wrote:Aren't you too young to vote Ink?
Then again I can't talk, I'm too British to vote.
ACORN is taking care of that little problem...
Re: Why I'm Voting for Obama
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:47 am
by mpjh
Remember, if you are voting for Obama, vote early and vote often.
Re: Why I'm Voting for Obama
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:48 am
by Sir. Ricco
InkL0sed wrote:nagerous wrote:Aren't you too young to vote Ink?
Then again I can't talk, I'm too British to vote.
ACORN is taking care of that little problem...
Isn't life great!
Why I voted for Barack Obama
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:44 am
by got tonkaed
Because i was out of the country and therefore had to vote already. Its called absentee voting. Consider it any time you wont be around on election day.
For the rest of you, go vote or something, you should have some kind of day off.