Conquer Club

Or in the case of my fundamentalist Christian girlfriend, no f*ck.

Ha, yes, that too.

The Marx-Engels Reader was required subject matter for my studies.

He should produce all papers he's ever written in the field of political science.

i think you all are a bunch of left wing fucking nuts.........


is this really a issue cuz he did not show his birth certificate

We also demand he provide any Q-Tips he has used in his ear for the last 41 years.

When I applied for my passport I was told that a Certificate of Live Birth is not recognized as proof I was born (well duh, I'm here aren't I)? I had to get a certified copy of my Birth Certificate.

Phatscotty wrote:Barack Obama admitted that he was drawn to Marxists during his college days. He wrote about it:

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

But he says is not a marxist or a socialist. Can we please start judging people by what they DO instead of what they SAY?

I mean, really. cmon.

Yes, you are correct, LET's bring back the days of McCarthy, the days of blacklists for anyone who was ever associated with anyone possibly socialist. After all, just THINKING such things, even CONSIDERING them like an intelligent, thoughtful human being is not AMERICAN. HOW DARE ANYONE SUPPORT THE OPEN AND FREE DISCOURSE OF VARIED IDEAS IN THE US!
Or..maybe the fact that someone once considered some ideas over 20 years ago isn't reason to pilliar them since America IS, after all, about freedom.

YOUR hypocrisry astounds me! You are the first to cry "constitutional violation" and "individual rights", but here you are saying that someone who even thought about socialism in any kind of favorable light at any time in their career is never to be in politics again.

PLAYER57832 wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:Barack Obama admitted that he was drawn to Marxists during his college days. He wrote about it:

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

But he says is not a marxist or a socialist. Can we please start judging people by what they DO instead of what they SAY?

I mean, really. cmon.

Yes, you are correct, LET's bring back the days of McCarthy, the days of blacklists for anyone who was ever associated with anyone possibly socialist. After all, just THINKING such things, even CONSIDERING them like an intelligent, thoughtful human being is not AMERICAN. HOW DARE ANYONE SUPPORT THE OPEN AND FREE DISCOURSE OF VARIED IDEAS IN THE US!
Or..maybe the fact that someone once considered some ideas over 20 years ago isn't reason to pilliar them since America IS, after all, about freedom.

YOUR hypocrisry astounds me! You are the first to cry "constitutional violation" and "individual rights", but here you are saying that someone who even thought about socialism in any kind of favorable light at any time in their career is never to be in politics again.

I was simply making a statement about judging people by what they do as opposed to by what they say. You can inject mccarthy (lol) and hypocricy (lol) if you wish, but that does not change my statement that we should judge people by what they do and not by what they say.

isaiah40 wrote:When I applied for my passport I was told that a Certificate of Live Birth is not recognized as proof I was born (well duh, I'm here aren't I)? I had to get a certified copy of my Birth Certificate.

so, you can't get a passport with it, but you can persuade a bunch of gullible people that you are a legitimate citizen with it? the law isn't gullible, people are. makes perfect sense to me.

Any macaroni pictures he made as a child will also be required.

We also demand his favorite novelty tooth brush.

I demand to see his diary.

So should politicians spend time debunking every silly conspiracy theory that gets thrown their way? Even acknowledging them seems like more than they deserve. If you're little brother's bothering you, the best way to get him to stop is to ignore him. Paying attention will only encourage him to further antics. If he stops to give proof for this, then next they'll be demanding proof that Elvis is really dead and the moon landing really occurred.
Also, how would Obama have spent any money ignoring the birthers? I'm pretty sure no one's been able to take him to court over it.

I'd rather Obama spend his time and resources proving to me that his healthcare is a good idea and that the stimulus package is actually working, not stooping to the level of bored paranoid people.

bbqpenguin wrote:So should politicians spend time debunking every silly conspiracy theory that gets thrown their way? Even acknowledging them seems like more than they deserve. If you're little brother's bothering you, the best way to get him to stop is to ignore him. Paying attention will only encourage him to further antics. If he stops to give proof for this, then next they'll be demanding proof that Elvis is really dead and the moon landing really occurred.
Also, how would Obama have spent any money ignoring the birthers? I'm pretty sure no one's been able to take him to court over it.

I'd rather Obama spend his time and resources proving to me that his healthcare is a good idea and that the stimulus package is actually working, not stooping to the level of bored paranoid people.

If your little brothers annoying you just hit him, don't take the moral high road.

Titanic wrote:

bbqpenguin wrote:So should politicians spend time debunking every silly conspiracy theory that gets thrown their way? Even acknowledging them seems like more than they deserve. If you're little brother's bothering you, the best way to get him to stop is to ignore him. Paying attention will only encourage him to further antics. If he stops to give proof for this, then next they'll be demanding proof that Elvis is really dead and the moon landing really occurred.
Also, how would Obama have spent any money ignoring the birthers? I'm pretty sure no one's been able to take him to court over it.

I'd rather Obama spend his time and resources proving to me that his healthcare is a good idea and that the stimulus package is actually working, not stooping to the level of bored paranoid people.

If your little brothers annoying you just hit him, don't take the moral high road.

In this analogy, with the birthers being the little brother, and Obama the older, wouldn't getting elected be the equivalent of hitting him?

Timminz wrote:

Titanic wrote:

bbqpenguin wrote:So should politicians spend time debunking every silly conspiracy theory that gets thrown their way? Even acknowledging them seems like more than they deserve. If you're little brother's bothering you, the best way to get him to stop is to ignore him. Paying attention will only encourage him to further antics. If he stops to give proof for this, then next they'll be demanding proof that Elvis is really dead and the moon landing really occurred.
Also, how would Obama have spent any money ignoring the birthers? I'm pretty sure no one's been able to take him to court over it.

I'd rather Obama spend his time and resources proving to me that his healthcare is a good idea and that the stimulus package is actually working, not stooping to the level of bored paranoid people.

If your little brothers annoying you just hit him, don't take the moral high road.

In this analogy, with the birthers being the little brother, and Obama the older, wouldn't getting elected be the equivalent of hitting him?

Yes, but I wasn't using the analogy, I was just talking about RL.

Timminz wrote:

Titanic wrote:

bbqpenguin wrote:So should politicians spend time debunking every silly conspiracy theory that gets thrown their way? Even acknowledging them seems like more than they deserve. If you're little brother's bothering you, the best way to get him to stop is to ignore him. Paying attention will only encourage him to further antics. If he stops to give proof for this, then next they'll be demanding proof that Elvis is really dead and the moon landing really occurred.
Also, how would Obama have spent any money ignoring the birthers? I'm pretty sure no one's been able to take him to court over it.

I'd rather Obama spend his time and resources proving to me that his healthcare is a good idea and that the stimulus package is actually working, not stooping to the level of bored paranoid people.

If your little brothers annoying you just hit him, don't take the moral high road.

In this analogy, with the birthers being the little brother, and Obama the older, wouldn't getting elected be the equivalent of hitting him?

No

pimpdave wrote:We also demand he provide any Q-Tips he has used in his ear for the last 41 years.

I have never seen a Q-tip Obama has used, much less have I seen Obama use a Q-tip, I haven't even heard of any unbiased source for Obama using Q-tips. This must mean that Obama has no ears!

bradleybadly wrote:Why is this even an issue?

If you look at the revision date in the bottom left corner it says 11/61, 3 months after Obama was allegedly born in Hawaii! And the file name should read Certificate of Live Birth not Birth Certificate.

isaiah40 wrote:

bradleybadly wrote:Why is this even an issue?

If you look at the revision date in the bottom left corner it says 11/61, 3 months after Obama was allegedly born in Hawaii!

Under the heading "DATE OF BIRTH" it says "August 4, 1961", however.

And the file name should read Certificate of Live Birth not Birth Certificate.

May I draw your attention to the upper edge of the document? Smack in the middle it says "CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH", so where do you see the words "birth certificate"? I think it's safe to call you a moron for apparently not even looking at the thing you're so pitifully attempting to criticize.


Apart from the established lack of ears, I have never seen Obama together with a toothbrush, it is possible that he has no teeth either.

How about that "prima facie" part in the fine print.

isaiah40 wrote:

bradleybadly wrote:Why is this even an issue?

If you look at the revision date in the bottom left corner it says 11/61, 3 months after Obama was allegedly born in Hawaii! And the file name should read Certificate of Live Birth not Birth Certificate.

I think not. Here's a larger version of it:



That form wasn't revised until 2001 unless my eyes are screwed up. I don't know enough about the legality of the word "certificate" versus "certification". It's a settled issue in my mind though as far as his citizenship.

Well like I said earlier. If the feds wouldn't accept my Certification of Live birth to get a passport, then why did congress accept this - oh wait there are all democrats.

We also demand proof that he likes baseball and apple pie.