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Conquer Club • Will simtom get 0 points? - Page 3
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:02 pm
by tahitiwahini
GrazingCattle wrote:I would play doubles with simtom. We win and we make lots of points w/o too much work. We lose. we don't lose too much.

Awesome plan!


Love the avatar.

Although now that I think about it... where have I see something like that before.....?

But it still doesn't top dcowboys055. :lol:

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:04 pm
by AK_iceman
reverend_kyle wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:We need to get blitz to team with him and him to lose.


I'm willing to bribe!


this would put him at negative, and you'd win points for losing to him.

It's impossible to go below 1 point.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:05 pm
by derfderf34
he should be below 20 and play a battle royal game against the highest people with the limit taken off

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:07 pm
by tahitiwahini
hecter wrote:Are you calling wicked a man!?


Well, I'm not, and I don't think Eubulides knows wicked.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:17 pm
by reverend_kyle
AK_iceman wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:We need to get blitz to team with him and him to lose.


I'm willing to bribe!


this would put him at negative, and you'd win points for losing to him.

It's impossible to go below 1 point.
blitz and him lose to 2 1000 pt new recruits


3000/2000*20= -30 pts. he's at 22 that puts him at -8 theoretically.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:19 pm
by AK_iceman
reverend_kyle wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:We need to get blitz to team with him and him to lose.


I'm willing to bribe!


this would put him at negative, and you'd win points for losing to him.

It's impossible to go below 1 point.
blitz and him lose to 2 1000 pt new recruits


3000/2000*20= -30 pts. he's at 22 that puts him at -8 theoretically.

Well... thats why it's a theory. :wink:

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:24 pm
by derfderf34
bum bum bum

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:38 pm
by reverend_kyle
AK_iceman wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:We need to get blitz to team with him and him to lose.


I'm willing to bribe!


this would put him at negative, and you'd win points for losing to him.

It's impossible to go below 1 point.
blitz and him lose to 2 1000 pt new recruits


3000/2000*20= -30 pts. he's at 22 that puts him at -8 theoretically.

Well... thats why it's a theory. :wink:


lets just see what happens.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:11 pm
by sully800
GrazingCattle wrote:I would play doubles with simtom. We win and we make lots of points w/o too much work. We lose. we don't lose too much.

Awesome plan!


That's the method of play that Blitz sometimes uses that made dugcarr so anrgy about the score system (if you didn't know).

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:20 pm
by sully800
hecter wrote:Let me guess… He will never be able to drop below 1 point. Correct? But, does that mean that anybody that plays him will not be able to get even a single point?


That's the way it should work but it is only a theory.

I'm going to ruin the mystery and actually be helpful for everyone: Lack fixed it so that his score won't go lower if he has a single point, but a person who beats him will still gain what they normally would. Of course for singles matches most players would get 0 points for beating him anyway due to rounding.

1/1000*20 = 0.02 = 0

in fact, 1/41*20 = 0.4878 = 0.

So to gain points from him in a singles game you would have to have 40 points or less regardless of the fix.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:49 pm
by wicked
sully loves to be the one to ruin surprises when he can, which is why we don't tell him much. :lol:

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:54 pm
by hecter
:lol: Did he even know about the chat? Cause I don't think I ever saw him on there.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:57 pm
by pancakemix
That totally ruined all the fun of it.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:59 pm
by wicked
hecter wrote::lol: Did he even know about the chat? Cause I don't think I ever saw him on there.



LOL.. shhhh....

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:00 pm
by AAFitz
my surprise was better, I thought

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:00 pm
by hecter
O right! Sorry.

Everybody, there is no secret mod chat! :lol:

simton

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:03 pm
by Whiteberry
I think it's pretty obvious that simton is trying to get down to zero points. No one is really that bad at this game. I do not think he should get another 1000 points if he reaches zero. Do we really need a player like this on Conquer Club?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:03 pm
by AK_iceman
hecter wrote:O right! Sorry.

Everybody, there is no secret mod chat! :lol:

We got a new one anyway, have fun hanging out in our leftovers. :P

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:07 pm
by hecter
AK_iceman wrote:
hecter wrote:O right! Sorry.

Everybody, there is no secret mod chat! :lol:

We got a new one anyway, have fun hanging out in our leftovers. :P

It's probably just as buggy anyways. Besides, I heard from a certain someone that a… chatmaster was it? went on vacation. Besides, you never did unban me anyways…

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:09 pm
by hecter
O, and I found it BTW. Really wasn't that hard. Ah… good times, good times…

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:19 pm
by d.gishman
I believe that it takes skill to lose that many times in a row. My hats off to him. The whole community is eagerly watching him, waiting for him to reach 0...

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:22 pm
by hecter
No, he just never takes a turn. He is obviously trying to get a lowest score possible.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:26 pm
by d.gishman
ah that explains it

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:42 pm
by tahitiwahini
As he progresses toward a score of 1 things will get harder and harder for simtom. He will have to lose to players with lower and lower scores in order to lose any points.

Assuming simtom loses the game (a very safe assumption by the way since he seems to deadbeat all his games) he has to lose to someone with a low enough score in order lose a single point.

His current score is 22.

If he loses the game his point loss is calculated as follows:

(22 / n) * 20, where n is the winner's score

Assuming rounding, in order to lose a single point he must lose 0.5 points or greater before rounding.

(22 / n) * 20 >= 0.5

So, n <= 880. In other words, unless simtom loses to a player with a score of less than or equal to 880 he will not lose a single point.

For example, in this game he lost to a player having a score of 1046 and so he lost 0 points.

2007-04-10 16:21:00 - Dr. Jim won the game
2007-04-10 16:21:00 - luapy loses 24 points
2007-04-10 16:21:00 - tahitiwahini loses 30 points
2007-04-10 16:21:00 - simtom loses 0 points
2007-04-10 16:21:00 - Dr. Jim gains 54 points


Dr. Jim's score was 1046 before the game.

(22 / 1046) * 20 = 0.4 which is rounded to 0.

So, at his current score if simtom joins a game where the lowest player has a score of greater than 880 he is just wasting his time. He can't lose any points by deadbeating that game. The only thing he would accomplish is to irritate the other players by deadbeating. He will not lose any points in such a game.

Basically, simtom should put everyone on the scoreboard with a score of above 880 on his ignore-list. As his score drops further he will have to put more and more players on his ignore-list.

Some fun, huh?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:14 am
by Whiteberry
d.gishman wrote:I believe that it takes skill to lose that many times in a row. My hats off to him. The whole community is eagerly watching him, waiting for him to reach 0...


Skill to lose that many points? Are you kidding? All you have to do is join games and then deadbeat. This is what he's doing and it's a waste of everyone's time. Then after wasting too much time on a game with this idiot, you only get one point from him when he loses. Why does Conquer Club need this kind of player?