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Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:35 pm
by reminisco
there's no option for the Galactic Empire.

or the Wookie Society on planet Wookieville.

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:15 pm
by Neoteny
Uh-mer-i-cer!

Re:

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:36 pm
by AndrewLC
0ojakeo0 wrote:Ancient Greece was the one with Mesopotamia right? They are obviously the best but due to my ignorance i voted USA

Please tell me you're kidding?

Re:

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:48 am
by Ntetos
kumanovac wrote:Ancient Greece is was a small part of Ancient Macedonia in the time of Alexander The Great


Ancient Macedonians and Alexander were greek so it is the same thing.

joecoolfrog wrote:The single fact that English is the universal language rather settles this.


Greek used to be the universal language, then Latin. You can't know if this is going to last forever.

Re: Re:

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:50 am
by The1exile
Ntetos wrote:You can't know if this is going to last forever.

Lasting forever is not the qualification of current greatest. Outlasting others might be a good start, but still not everything.

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:07 am
by Ruben Cassar
Two Yugoslavias? Hmm...why?

And anyway this poll doesn't make sense. Since the USA still exists today and many people on these fora are from the US it's obvious they will vote for their mother country.

The answer to this poll is simple: Roman Empire - the impact that the Roman Empire has had on the world (especially the Western World) can still be felt today in so many ways. Even the USA likes to associate itself with Ancient Rome to this day and age.

The British Empire comes in a close second in my book. Even the saying "the sun never sets on the British Empire" can give you an idea of the grandeur of that Empire...and let's not forget the British Empire saved the world during World War II especially in the initial stages of the war where it was fighting alone for 2 years or more. Ironically the British Empire has also contributed to make the USA what it is today.

Re: Re:

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:08 am
by Ntetos
The1exile wrote:
Ntetos wrote:You can't know if this is going to last forever.

Lasting forever is not the qualification of current greatest. Outlasting others might be a good start, but still not everything.


I don't disagree with you about it. All I am saying is that just because English is the universal language now doesn't make USA the greatest country that ever existed.

Re:

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:16 am
by Ruben Cassar
comic boy wrote:What Language are we all using here :lol:


A language that is 70% made of Latin and French and around 20% of old German. The other 10% is a result of words added to all this.

Re: Re:

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:37 pm
by icedagger
Ntetos wrote:
The1exile wrote:
Ntetos wrote:You can't know if this is going to last forever.

Lasting forever is not the qualification of current greatest. Outlasting others might be a good start, but still not everything.


I don't disagree with you about it. All I am saying is that just because English is the universal language now doesn't make USA the greatest country that ever existed.


Still it was pretty impressive the way those Americans invented it right.. #-o

I voted France so it would have one vote.. shocked to see someone had already voted it

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:43 pm
by PLAYER57832
Hopefully, most people are at least reasonably happy with the country in which they live.

However, the real answer is "yet to be determined". Hopefully, we will learn from our past mistakes and create a better world.

Though I am told the Chinese look to a "Golden Age" roughly 5000 years ago....

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:50 pm
by MeDeFe
The nation-state is merely an arbitrary concept in order to divide humanity into 'us' and 'them', it benefited the ruling class because it gave them an excuse to force people into line. They merely had to point to all the other groups and say "Look at those, if you don't follow our commands they will come here and kill and rape us all, but if you follow us we can be the ones to conquer them".

Discuss.

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:22 pm
by PLAYER57832
MeDeFe wrote:The nation-state is merely an arbitrary concept in order to divide humanity into 'us' and 'them', it benefited the ruling class because it gave them an excuse to force people into line. They merely had to point to all the other groups and say "Look at those, if you don't follow our commands they will come here and kill and rape us all, but if you follow us we can be the ones to conquer them".

Discuss.



There is certainly some truth to that.
However, there are many practicalities such as building roads, maintaining general order and so forth that require government of one form or another.

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:25 pm
by The1exile
PLAYER57832 wrote:However, there are many practicalities such as building roads, maintaining general order and so forth that require government of one form or another.

Sure, but they could (theoretically, at least) be dealt with perfectly well with a decent ecumenopolis.

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:28 pm
by jonesthecurl
Incidentally, The Roman Empire was an empire, not a country. Hence the name .
Same for other "empires".
The Soviet Union was a Union, not a country, hence the name.
Ancient Greece was not a single country.
Colonial Britain was four countries, even if we forget the colonies.


For most of the world, the obsession with "nationhood" is relatively recent. (18th century on).

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:34 pm
by t-o-m
this is obviously gonna be bias, most of the members on here are from the USA or canada

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:43 pm
by Snorri1234
t-o-m wrote:this is obviously gonna be bias, most of the members on here are from the USA or canada


Therefore I'm going to vote for China.

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:44 pm
by t-o-m
Snorri1234 wrote:
t-o-m wrote:this is obviously gonna be bias, most of the members on here are from the USA or canada


Therefore I'm going to vote for China.

lol those comunist bastards?
meh...

Re:

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:52 pm
by heavycola
Tyr wrote:greatest country ever? Def america


'America' is two entire continents. Your post is meaningless.

Also, I think the OP meant 'great' as in 'illustrious' and 'renowned', not 'fat'.
Although if he did mean fat, then i have to vote USA too.

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:52 pm
by Snorri1234
t-o-m wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
t-o-m wrote:this is obviously gonna be bias, most of the members on here are from the USA or canada


Therefore I'm going to vote for China.

lol those comunist bastards?
meh...


They is teh future!

Re: Re:

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:34 pm
by muy_thaiguy
heavycola wrote:
Tyr wrote:greatest country ever? Def america


'America' is two entire continents. Your post is meaningless.

Also, I think the OP meant 'great' as in 'illustrious' and 'renowned', not 'fat'.
Although if he did mean fat, then i have to vote USA too.

:roll: Honestly, did you forget the North American/South American Union that Bush is so obviously doing without letting anyone else, including the Brazilians and Mexicans know? Geez.

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:49 am
by Nobunaga
... television
... the airplane
... man on the moon
... the light bulb
... air conditioning
... the Internet
... the automobile
... the personal computer
... (probably other big ones)

... The USA. (though I've serious doubts about our ability to continue this trend)

...

Re: Re:

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:59 am
by Dancing Mustard
muy_thaiguy wrote:Honestly, did you forget the North American/South American Union that Bush is so obviously doing without letting anyone else, including the Brazilians and Mexicans know? Geez.

Fear the Amero...

It's definitely not just the product of made-up rumours and wild, baseless conjecture. It's a completely real thing that is certainly going to really happen. In real life. For real. Absolutely.

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:05 am
by khazalid
Nobunaga wrote:
... television - john logie baird - scotland then canada
... the airplane
... man on the moon - BS!
... the light bulb
... air conditioning
... the Internet - BS!
... the automobile
... the personal computer - charles babbage - english
... (probably other big ones)

... The USA. (though I've serious doubts about our ability to continue this trend)

...



corrections

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:29 am
by joecoolfrog
khazalid wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:
... television - john logie baird - scotland then canada
... the airplane - yes but the jet engine was invented by Frank Whittle ( British )
... man on the moon - BS!
... the light bulb ( not much good without electricity - inventor of first dynamo/generator Farraday ( British )
... air conditioning ( see above )
... the Internet - BS! Nope Tim Berners Lee ( British )
... the automobile - Nope Benz and Daimler ( German )
... the personal computer - charles babbage - english
... (probably other big ones)

... The USA. (though I've serious doubts about our ability to continue this trend)

...



corrections


Further ammended :lol:
By the reasoning of Nobanunga that would make Britain the winner it seems :D

Re: The greatest country that ever existed

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:50 am
by khazalid
god save the queen

*sniff*