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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:07 pm
by treefiddy
Coleman wrote:I realize there are some coding challenges with this. And I'd welcome random colors, but that might upset yellow4life.
I was actually going to bring up yellow4life. I thought it was pretty awesome that every game on his list, he's yellow. I didn't think anyone would be that dedicated, but he certainly is.
As for your color pallet, I think that's too broad a range. I think there needs to be a choice between 1-10 colors. Otherwise we may get too many dark toned colors that people will use to try and hide their armies in dark territories.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:32 pm
by Minister Masket
One does wonder why black hasn't been considered to use.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:36 pm
by firth4eva
Minister Masket wrote:One does wonder why black hasn't been considered to use.
because it would be considered racist
you know what its like today
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:00 pm
by Kaplowitz
someone would do black vs white or something
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:04 am
by jonesthecurl
Iagree that choosing your colour would be nice, but not if it's a huge effort to implement. I usually join a game third and play blue. It confuses me when I play another colour, especially when I was pink and blue was played by PinkSpider...
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:12 am
by yeti_c
Minister Masket wrote:One does wonder why black hasn't been considered to use.
Because Black begins with B...
C.
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:19 am
by lancehoch
Necrobump. But on topic, yeti, I have mentioned this in the thread about adding 9 and 10 player games; you do not need to have letters that match the colors, you could have red=A, green=B, blue=c, yellow=D,... This is just a code to help people recognize what armies belong to what player, not necessarily what actual color we all see the armies as. (While it may be nice to do, it does not actually matter.)
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:39 am
by yeti_c
lancehoch wrote:Necrobump. But on topic, yeti, I have mentioned this in the thread about adding 9 and 10 player games; you do not need to have letters that match the colors, you could have red=A, green=B, blue=c, yellow=D,... This is just a code to help people recognize what armies belong to what player, not necessarily what actual color we all see the armies as. (While it may be nice to do, it does not actually matter.)
You make a valid point about A B C D E etc...
Although people tend to prefer numeric numbering systems over alpha number systems - obviously however that won't work with the current method - as it will just look like a mahoosive army!
C.
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:40 pm
by tubaman
jonesthecurl wrote:Iagree that choosing your colour would be nice, but not if it's a huge effort to implement. I usually join a game third and play blue. It confuses me when I play another colour, especially when I was pink and blue was played by PinkSpider...
I agree with Jones, choosing your color would be nice, but I don't want there to be a lot of time put into implementing it, I'd rather Lack work on other stuff. And I think choosing your colors would be more confusing because, for example, red wouldn't necessarily correspond with the first person, contrary to how it's always been.
And would the color choosing replace the current method or would you have the option of creating games with either?
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:21 pm
by cicero
yeti_c wrote:lancehoch wrote:... I have mentioned this in the thread about adding 9 and 10 player games; you do not need to have letters that match the colors, you could have red=A, green=B, blue=c, yellow=D,... This is just a code to help people recognize what armies belong to what player, not necessarily what actual color we all see the armies as. (While it may be nice to do, it does not actually matter.)
You make a valid point about A B C D E etc...
Off topic as we possibly are, I have to post to disagree regarding colour codes!
I am, as it happens, colourblind ... I see "Hey green, why are you attacking me? Red is the threat!" in the game chat.
Can you explain, without the use of the words/concepts 'green' and 'red' how I'm going to know which players he is talking about?
Right now I know he is talking about player 'g' and player 'r' ...
That's ok you say I could learn that A="red", B="green" etc ...
But then what happens when someone says "teal" when they mean "cyan"? Do I have to learn a whole list of possible synonyms for the colour names?
Sorry it looks a bit ranty with all those question marks, but hopefully you'll see my (important) point
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:42 am
by FabledIntegral
Since when do guys honestly give a crap if they have pink - if anything that's the opposite of manly, that's being homophobic/immature about something basic...
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:26 pm
by Androidz
i like the idea but i think it will be easyer to choose 3 prefered colours in order on Controll Panel. So if you got Red on highest priorty and is one of the first to join the games you will be automaticly red.
That means no need for pop up, faster to join more likely you get your best prefered colour. And since no one knows what colour he got before the game started it will be kinda a bit random so the players wont quit just cause they didint get thier colour.
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:41 pm
by tubaman
Androidz wrote:i like the idea but i think it will be easyer to choose 3 prefered colours in order on Controll Panel. So if you got Red on highest priorty and is one of the first to join the games you will be automaticly red.
That means no need for pop up, faster to join more likely you get your best prefered colour. And since no one knows what colour he got before the game started it will be kinda a bit random so the players wont quit just cause they didint get thier colour.
I still don't think we should implement this...but if we have to this is the way to do it. Very simple, very sufficient.
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:50 pm
by Androidz
tubaman wrote:Androidz wrote:i like the idea but i think it will be easyer to choose 3 prefered colours in order on Controll Panel. So if you got Red on highest priorty and is one of the first to join the games you will be automaticly red.
That means no need for pop up, faster to join more likely you get your best prefered colour. And since no one knows what colour he got before the game started it will be kinda a bit random so the players wont quit just cause they didint get thier colour.
I still don't think we should implement this...but if we have to this is the way to do it. Very simple, very sufficient.
Well it is on the To Do list and i like the idea, and yeah i agrea this is the way:D
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:04 am
by blakebowling
or it could be customizeable based on what you see (like how the nicknames in chat are all a diff color)
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:38 pm
by croco
I am red/green colorblind and the colors in this game are VERY hard to see. I need to rely on the color codes, which is a great (and simple) addition. However, it's still VERY hard to get the big picture on most of the maps I've played. I cannot view the entire map and get a feeling for where I am and where others are. Instead, I need to look at each territory individually and remember it's color code as I continue on this process. I’m sure it’s nearly impossible for a non-colorblind person to reproduce this problem.
IMHO, the best implementation would be to let us choose our favorite color in the Game Settings tab. This would be our color for all games, and it would make multi-map play much easier as well. Ideally, the Game Settings tab would also have color selections for the additional players, say 8 more or so. Basically, a custom color scheme. Basically, we could all be blue on our own screens for example. Obviously chat such as "get out of USA blue" would be worthless but that's what we names for.
I'd rate this change as very useful for colorblind people (about 7% to 10% of men) and probably quite nice for non-colorblind people as well.
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:26 pm
by MOBAJOBG
My favorite color is green, therefore I usually join games currently but this uber feature would let me have the opportunity to create games with go-green since I'm an environmentalist at heart.
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:32 pm
by cicero
croco wrote:I am red/green colorblind and the colors in this game are VERY hard to see. I need to rely on the color codes, which is a great (and simple) addition. However, it's still VERY hard to get the big picture on most of the maps I've played. I cannot view the entire map and get a feeling for where I am and where others are. Instead, I need to look at each territory individually and remember it's color code as I continue on this process. I’m sure it’s nearly impossible for a non-colorblind person to reproduce this problem.
IMHO, the best implementation would be to let us choose our favorite color in the Game Settings tab. This would be our color for all games, and it would make multi-map play much easier as well. Ideally, the Game Settings tab would also have color selections for the additional players, say 8 more or so. Basically, a custom color scheme. Basically, we could all be blue on our own screens for example. Obviously chat such as "get out of USA blue" would be worthless but that's what we names for.
I'd rate this change as very useful for colorblind people (about 7% to 10% of men) and probably quite nice for non-colorblind people as well.
Spot on!
This is the ultimate solution to the colour choice issue.
As a fellow colourblinder this is perfect and into the bargain it forces players to address each other by name which is a great positive step!
Allow players to join any slot in games awaiting players
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:05 pm
by InkL0sed
Concise description:- Allow players to join any free slot in games awaiting players
Specifics:- Under join a game, you simply click on the slot you want to join under, and you take that slot, instead of the next free one like we have now
This will improve the following aspects of the site:- This will allow players to choose their team before the other has been filled
- Players can effectively select their color in non-team games
Re: Allow players to join any slot in games awaiting players
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:27 pm
by blakebowling
This is already being discussed (and is on the To Do list)
lance will find the thread for you.
Re: Allow players to join any slot in games awaiting players
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:59 am
by lancehoch
Here is the thread.
LinkBlake, if you knew it was "To-Do", why couldn't you grab it yourself?
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:11 pm
by croco
I do like the idea of addressing people by name. However, now that I have more experience in CC I see that being a bit of an issue. People are still going to use color names and it would be hard to sort this out in the software.
Perhaps a better, and very easy, solution would be to simply change the colors so that they are more colorblind friendly. Get rid of red and start with g,b,y,p. That simple change would allow most colorbinds to play up to 4 person games without issue. After those 4, make it as colorblind friendly as possible but even just moving red from 1 to 8 in your color profile would help a ton. Could use white and black as colors as well.
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:21 am
by yeti_c
croco wrote:I do like the idea of addressing people by name. However, now that I have more experience in CC I see that being a bit of an issue. People are still going to use color names and it would be hard to sort this out in the software.
Perhaps a better, and very easy, solution would be to simply change the colors so that they are more colorblind friendly. Get rid of red and start with g,b,y,p. That simple change would allow most colorbinds to play up to 4 person games without issue. After those 4, make it as colorblind friendly as possible but even just moving red from 1 to 8 in your color profile would help a ton. Could use white and black as colors as well.
White is currently used for Neutrals.
Black armies were denied as they aren't visible on a lot of maps.
The problem is - we use 9 different colours for the army counts as it is - and they are as far apart as they can possibly be on the spectrums.
i.e. the colours are a tweaked version of
White FFFFFF (I didn't colour this one)
Red FF0000Green 00FF00Blue 0000FFYellow FFFF00Pink FF00FFCyan 00FFFFBlack 000000 (We use a tweaked black to a grey)
Then one had to be chosen in the middle of the ranges - and an orange seemed to be the best fit...
Orange FF8800As you can see - the first 8 colours are as far apart as they can possibly be (based on hex values).
I know this doesn't help you being Colourblind though... but if we removed Red - we'd then have to have another "mid range" colour - and the majority of people here would find it harder to distinguish who is who.
The other mid range colours could be...
FF008800FF880088FF8800FF888888As you can see (although I appreciate you may not be able to) - these colours are too similar to the other colours... hence the choice of Orange.
(I know there have been complaints from some that Grey and Green are too close too each other too)
C.
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:20 am
by Ritter8point0
Yeah, sometimes I have to turn color codes on to tell green from grey. I was in a game recently where we were just talking about "it would be cool if you could pick your color". I'd like to see it. I'd pick Pink.
Re: Choose Army Color At Start *To-Do*
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:42 am
by Scott-Land
Uggh- using color to identify players is a way of showing their noobness or disdain. You're only supposed to use their name if they've graduated to a 'personal' level.
