Conquer Club

OK, lets try to explain this. God gave us free will. So much of the suffering comes because of us humans we commit the suffering or sit by and let it happen. God does intervine all the time. The sick are healed , the blind can see and the lame walk. Why not all prayers answered? Because God only hears the prayers of His children (as pointed out in scripture). If you do not know God He will not hear (listen too) your prayers. Also, when a Christians prays it must be according to Gods will. So we can't pray for 1 million dollars and expect to recieve it. UNLESS it is Gods will.

When people are healed, it's from taking medicine and their bodies heal themselves. If that was true, wouldn't more faithful people heal quicker than full blown athiests? No, we all heal at the same pace. And since when does God cure people of blindness and paralysis? If he did, not a single person today would have these predicaments.

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Thanks slash.

religion is a human nature, because u dont know sumthing, u have 2 make sumthing up 2 ease ur curiousity, some ppl decide 2 believe in god because they cant think of anything else, but i would rather say that something i dont understand has let the pieces fall into place

So we can't pray for 1 million dollars and expect to recieve it. UNLESS it is Gods will.

Exactly. So WHY the hell bother praying to him if he's just gonna do what he wants to anyways?

Sammy gags wrote:religion is a human nature, because u dont know sumthing, u have 2 make sumthing up 2 ease ur curiousity, some ppl decide 2 believe in god because they cant think of anything else, but i would rather say that something i dont understand has let the pieces fall into place

It's happened in history so many times before.

kingwaffles wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:God does intervine all the time. The sick are healed , the blind can see and the lame walk.

I'm too lazy to argue with the whole post, I'll just go for the asy bit here.....

The sick are healed by the human body and it's amazing healing powers or by medicine, not God's will. And the blind can see because of modern medicine again, nothing more.
Give me an exomple of times it is clearly god that has made blind people see and lame people walk.

Hmmmm. Well, there is no cure for MS. Which I was diagnosed having in 1990. God healed me in 1991. 15 years symtem free of MS. And the beautiful part is, the day I was healed I felt it take place. BTW the body just doesn't "heal" things like MS.

If "God" loves you so much, jay, why'd he give it to you in the first place?

the human body is the most amazing thing, u can be surprised at wut it can do

And actually yes, the body DOES jsut heal things. Like MS. And sometimes Cancer.

Jay, ever heard of a PLACEBO EFFECT?

God didn't give it to him it was the devil and his daemons....

And I'm with Sammy Gags, you'd be amazed at what the Huamn Body can do combined with strong willpower.

slash1890 wrote:If "God" loves you so much, jay, why'd he give it to you in the first place?

God didn't "give" it to me. There are 2 powers working in the world. Not that "Satan did it". But demonic forces can cause illness. The rest is just life.

Just life? How can there be life sperate from God? Or satan for that matter. How can you say there are forces aside from operating in the world and not believe in UFOs???

kingwaffles wrote:Just life? How can there be life sperate from God? Or satan for that matter. How can you say there are forces aside from operating in the world and not believe in UFOs???

Ever notice how jay went silent last time you brought that up?

slash1890 wrote:

kingwaffles wrote:Just life? How can there be life sperate from God? Or satan for that matter. How can you say there are forces aside from operating in the world and not believe in UFOs???

Ever notice how jay went silent last time you brought that up?

I didn't go silent. Go back and read my posts. I said God would have told us about aliens.

I think we got him....

PS. kingwaffles, I'm surprised. Out of the 400+ people that have looked at that pic, you are so far the ONLY person to figure it out! Congrats!

slash1890 wrote:

kingwaffles wrote:Just life? How can there be life sperate from God? Or satan for that matter. How can you say there are forces aside from operating in the world and not believe in UFOs???

Ever notice how jay went silent last time you brought that up?

And I think people need to pay much closer attention to that photo in relation to the second post I made in this thread.....

kingwaffles wrote:Just life? How can there be life sperate from God? Or satan for that matter. How can you say there are forces aside from operating in the world and not believe in UFOs???

Let me see if I understand this argument: If you are going to believe in made up stuff, you have to believe all of it. Have i got that right?

alright enouth about God! if you wish to speak about him either go to church or go to the logic dictates there is a god thread,

As for the alien photo, whether it is an actual space ship or not a chose to reamain fairly close minded to the idea of 'little green men' probing people and secretly running the world. I doubt that a single being of intelagence has come to our planet from another, because mainly we humans have a lot to offer resource wise, think of what we have, water lots of water and we have the most valuble reasorce in the universe, numbers, face it the human race is basically a killing machine if there was any intelegent being (from another planet) how knew of us we would be fighting and dieing on the surface of Omicron Percia 8

Event_Horizon wrote:I think we got him....

PS. kingwaffles, I'm surprised. Out of the 400+ people that have looked at that pic, you are so far the ONLY person to figure it out! Congrats!

Why thank you.

There was something that just seemed funny about it....

this subjuect is stupid

You know whats funny? I posted it on a forum specifically for aliens and UFO's, but they simply took the picture and made jokes about it. I even said to them "somebody with photoshop PLEASE open this pic and toy around with the brightness." I actually SAID that, and they STILL didn't figure it out.

I must say, I expected everyone and their mother to notice that by now, but still you are the only person to get it. I'm not impressed with ya though, I'm merely dissapointed by everyone else.

Event_Horizon wrote:You know whats funny? I posted it on a forum specifically for aliens and UFO's, but they simply took the picture and made jokes about it. I even said to them "somebody with photoshop PLEASE open this pic and toy around with the brightness." I actually SAID that, and they STILL didn't figure it out.

I must say, I expected everyone and their mother to notice that by now, but still you are the only person to get it. I'm not impressed with ya though, I'm merely dissapointed by everyone else.

Haha, I see it. Here, I'll post it for everyone in a second.

-100 Brightness


+100 Brightness

Yeah, it really is rather obvious if you actually spend more than just a second looking at it....