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Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:33 pm
by EagleofGreenErth
imcjb wrote:Matt Hardy wrote:Twill wrote:And imcjb - I'll get to you later. Pretending to be representing the site to get someone's password? If it's true, you'll be lucky if you don't get banned from the site.
Jeff Hardy wrote:It is true.
Actually, I represented Symantec......as Head of Norton Security.
LOL wow.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:44 am
by Fruitcake
EagleofGreenErth wrote:imcjb wrote:Matt Hardy wrote:Twill wrote:And imcjb - I'll get to you later. Pretending to be representing the site to get someone's password? If it's true, you'll be lucky if you don't get banned from the site.
Jeff Hardy wrote:It is true.
Actually, I represented Symantec......as Head of Norton Security.
LOL wow.
Well, to be precise, he didn't 'represent' Symantac, I think they would have pretty major issues with that statement in a Court. He purported to represent is more to the point.
The other worrying issue this raises is the level of gullability of someone who would actually believe this so called Head of Security is actually that!
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:16 am
by imcjb
Fruitcake wrote:EagleofGreenErth wrote:imcjb wrote:Matt Hardy wrote:Twill wrote:And imcjb - I'll get to you later. Pretending to be representing the site to get someone's password? If it's true, you'll be lucky if you don't get banned from the site.
Jeff Hardy wrote:It is true.
Actually, I represented Symantec......as Head of Norton Security.
LOL wow.
Well, to be precise, he didn't 'represent' Symantac, I think they would have pretty major issues with that statement in a Court. He purported to represent is more to the point.
The other worrying issue this raises is the level of gullability of someone who would actually believe this so called Head of Security is actually that!
My previous statement was meant to be facetious.
Anyhow, bravo to you sir. This is the point I was trying to make. While I barely know Jeff Hardy, he introduced me in his MSN conversation to JCKing who also began making allegations about "hacking" and whatnot. My point of contention, both in this thread and the MSN conversations, has been the alarming trend of giving your password out to other CC players both in your clan and others you "know". I tested this in the MSN conversation with the above inference and JCKing willingly provided me with his password and he admitted giving his password out to others on CC. He doesnt know me either in real life or on CC and had never had a MSN conversation with me previously. As in this thread, I also told him that I was not who I had inferred I was and in future to not give his CC password or any other password for that matter to ANYONE. Many allegations like this one, of "hacking" and account misrepresentation, would become less common if others didnt have access to your account.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:06 am
by owenshooter
imcjb wrote: Many allegations like this one, of "hacking" and account misrepresentation, would become less common if others didnt have access to your account.
precisely... to me, hacking on CC equates, "i gave my password to someone i don't really know/trust and they either abused it or passed it on to someone else, and i'm pissed." however, in this case, it seems as if clan members were involved, and now "the hacker" is being used to deflect attention away from a clan on CC that is already under scrutiny by the powers that be and the CC public at large!!! you would think that once you get your entire clan thrown into a C&A thread that has obvious traction/merits, you might try to cool the jets of the members causting trouble. i know and like many of the people in TNT, they are really fun guys and very proud of their clan. however, there is a new element in that clan that is not above doing this exact sort of thing... i think the answer is for TNT to clean house and for people to be hyper vigilant with their passwords. everyone that has my password i have known in real life or on CC for at over a year, and in some cases 12-20 years. i recommend handling your password like you would the key to your house... period... sorry this is happening to jeff, he is a fun guy to banter about with in the forums and PM's, and of course fun to play. but the solutions seem very simple to me... and i hope twill puts an end to this now that he is involved...-0
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:14 pm
by Lucalupulasa
everyone who has posted has premium im gonna break that chain!
but for jeff,
what twill said. But if you think about it no account will be safe. theres probably loads of hack software being updated every day or so. what im saying is will any account be safe?
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:27 pm
by Timminz
Lucalupulasa wrote:will any account be safe?
As long as you don't give out your password, your account will be safe.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:31 pm
by Lucalupulasa
but i mean hackers apparently they have software that can hack into an account without a password
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:33 pm
by Timminz
Lucalupulasa wrote:but i mean hackers apparently they have software that can hack into an account without a password
no they can't. they need to have your password first. If you're referring to what happened in this case, what happened is Jeff gave his pw to Lanyards, who then gave it to Maxatstuy, who then changed the account's email address so that he could "retrieve" the password when it was changed. The moral of the story is, don't give your password to untrustworthy people.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:57 pm
by Lucalupulasa
ooohhhhh i didnt know that he gave soneone his password but it is possible for hackers to hack your account without passwords so what im saying is everyone at risk from this threat
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:04 pm
by Timminz
Lucalupulasa wrote:ooohhhhh i didnt know that he gave soneone his password but it is possible for hackers to hack your account without passwords so what im saying is everyone at risk from this threat
There has not been a single (publicly) reported case on CC of someone's account being "hacked" without the "hacker" knowing their pw.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:08 pm
by The Neon Peon
Lucalupulasa wrote:ooohhhhh i didnt know that he gave soneone his password but it is possible for hackers to hack your account without passwords so what im saying is everyone at risk from this threat
Why would someone want to hack YOUR account? Even if they could, but yes, they would have to get your original password.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:13 pm
by lanyards
Timminz wrote:Lucalupulasa wrote:but i mean hackers apparently they have software that can hack into an account without a password
no they can't. they need to have your password first. If you're referring to what happened in this case, what happened is Jeff gave his pw to Lanyards, who then gave it to Maxatstuy, who then changed the account's email address so that he could "retrieve" the password when it was changed. The moral of the story is, don't give your password to untrustworthy people.
What the f*ck do you know about anything? I would never give somebody else's password to anybody, especially not banned members. I wouldn't do this to anyone, especially clanmates and friends. A ton of people trust me with sitting, and I do trust them back, so why in hell would I do this? Jeff has my password, I am not worried about him going in my account and messing up stuff. Watch were you point your finger, I am tired of defending myself, but I will aslong as I am innocent.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:17 pm
by Timminz
lanyards wrote:Timminz wrote:Lucalupulasa wrote:but i mean hackers apparently they have software that can hack into an account without a password
no they can't. they need to have your password first. If you're referring to what happened in this case, what happened is Jeff gave his pw to Lanyards, who then gave it to Maxatstuy, who then changed the account's email address so that he could "retrieve" the password when it was changed. The moral of the story is, don't give your password to untrustworthy people.
What the f*ck do you know about anything? I would never give somebody else's password to anybody, especially not banned members. I wouldn't do this to anyone, especially clanmates and friends. A ton of people trust me with sitting, and I do trust them back, so why in hell would I do this? Jeff has my password, I am not worried about him going in my account and messing up stuff. Watch were you point your finger, I am tired of defending myself, but I will aslong as I am innocent.
That's a good question. What
do I know?
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:22 pm
by lanyards
Timminz wrote:lanyards wrote:Timminz wrote:Lucalupulasa wrote:but i mean hackers apparently they have software that can hack into an account without a password
no they can't. they need to have your password first. If you're referring to what happened in this case, what happened is Jeff gave his pw to Lanyards, who then gave it to Maxatstuy, who then changed the account's email address so that he could "retrieve" the password when it was changed. The moral of the story is, don't give your password to untrustworthy people.
What the f*ck do you know about anything? I would never give somebody else's password to anybody, especially not banned members. I wouldn't do this to anyone, especially clanmates and friends. A ton of people trust me with sitting, and I do trust them back, so why in hell would I do this? Jeff has my password, I am not worried about him going in my account and messing up stuff. Watch were you point your finger, I am tired of defending myself, but I will aslong as I am innocent.
That's a good question. What
do I know?
Nothing about what you are talking about. You always find some way to accuse me of everything, and I hate it, please stop.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:24 pm
by Fruitcake
lanyards wrote: A ton of people trust me with sitting....
I thought I was suffering from deja vu there for a moment.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:25 pm
by lanyards
Fruitcake wrote:lanyards wrote: A ton of people trust me with sitting....
I thought I was suffering from deja vu there for a moment.
I've been accused and cleared...so what? I account sit a lot when people have to leave...so what? That doesn't mean shit when people accuse me of helping my friend get banned.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:25 pm
by Timminz
lanyards wrote:Nothing about what you are talking about. You always find some way to accuse me of everything, and I hate it, please stop.
If you would stop trying to skirt the rules at every opportunity, perhaps people would stop accusing you of doing so. As it stands now, you are part of a small group who seem to think the rules don't apply to you, and react quite harshly when anyone tries to tell you otherwise.
Grow up. Play by the rules.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:27 pm
by Fruitcake
lanyards wrote:Fruitcake wrote:lanyards wrote: A ton of people trust me with sitting....
I thought I was suffering from deja vu there for a moment.
I've been accused and cleared...so what? I account sit a lot when people have to leave...so what? That doesn't mean shit when people accuse me of helping my friend get banned.
The deja vu feeling came from a previous time when max used to say much the same thing.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:29 pm
by lanyards
Timminz wrote:lanyards wrote:Nothing about what you are talking about. You always find some way to accuse me of everything, and I hate it, please stop.
If you would stop trying to skirt the rules at every opportunity, perhaps people would stop accusing you of doing so. As it stands now, you are part of a small group who seem to think the rules don't apply to you, and react quite harshly when anyone tries to tell you otherwise.
Grow up. Play by the rules.
I don't cheat. What else can I say?
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:30 pm
by lanyards
Fruitcake wrote:lanyards wrote:Fruitcake wrote:lanyards wrote: A ton of people trust me with sitting....
I thought I was suffering from deja vu there for a moment.
I've been accused and cleared...so what? I account sit a lot when people have to leave...so what? That doesn't mean shit when people accuse me of helping my friend get banned.
The deja vu feeling came from a previous time when max used to say much the same thing.
Max was never banned from breaking the rules, and if you want to ban me for being an arse, do so. But don't accuse me of cheating.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:40 pm
by Fruitcake
lanyards wrote:Fruitcake wrote:lanyards wrote:Fruitcake wrote:lanyards wrote: A ton of people trust me with sitting....
I thought I was suffering from deja vu there for a moment.
I've been accused and cleared...so what? I account sit a lot when people have to leave...so what? That doesn't mean shit when people accuse me of helping my friend get banned.
The deja vu feeling came from a previous time when max used to say much the same thing.
Max was never banned from breaking the rules, and if you want to ban me for being an arse, do so. But don't accuse me of cheating.
You still don't get it do you.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:44 pm
by lanyards
No
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:47 pm
by Timminz
You will one day. By then I fear it will be too late.
Re: hacker [Pending]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:50 pm
by lancehoch
Ok guys. We are actively looking into this, but for now this is locked.
EDIT: The situation has been settled. jeff has returned to being an active account.