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Re: premium and freemium

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:26 pm
by Dave67
stahrgazer wrote:
Dave67 wrote:
blakebowling wrote:just pay $25 and play as many as you want.


Problem for some is that you also have to figure in the exchange rate - for Canadians at the moment that is $32.21, from the online currency calculator I just checked - and the cost of the cheque or money order used to pay for the membership. (Not everyone here has a credit card I would assume.)


ahh, yes, so it works out to 9 cents a day instead of 7. Horrible!


Thing is, many people have tight budgets, and even though it's only "Pennies a day" - an annoying advertising phrase which is designed to bring in those who don't think it through, IMHO - that large one-time chunk of $25-35 can cause some real pain. I do like the idea of a 3-month memebership for $7 that someone else put forth here. Yes, that works out to $28 over a year, which would not make economical sense at first.

However, this is how I see it. A member buys a 3-month membership, enjoys himself, and decided to buy the annual membership. The other way, a member might buy the annual membership, find out how lousy it is, and deadbeat. Now, you might say "Hey, cc just made a nice profit off that deadbeat.", but how would players in a game with that deadbeat when he left feel about that?

Re: premium and freemium

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:55 pm
by Timminz
Dave67 wrote:a member might buy the annual membership, find out how lousy it is, and deadbeat. Now, you might say "Hey, cc just made a nice profit off that deadbeat.", but how would players in a game with that deadbeat when he left feel about that?

The only thing that would be different about this scenario, if 3-month memberships were available, is CC would get less money from the deadbeat.

Re: premium and freemium

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:23 am
by Dave67
Timminz wrote:
Dave67 wrote:a member might buy the annual membership, find out how lousy it is, and deadbeat. Now, you might say "Hey, cc just made a nice profit off that deadbeat.", but how would players in a game with that deadbeat when he left feel about that?

The only thing that would be different about this scenario, if 3-month memberships were available, is CC would get less money from the deadbeat.


I would contend that the opposite would happen. I'm sure that there are many freemium players who are on the cusp of purchasing a premium membership, but are still warry of laying out so much in one chunk right off the bat. The three-month membership would give them a chance to 'test the waters', so to speak, and then decide if an annual membership is what they want. (Yes, it can be argued that the freemium membership is also 'testing the waters'. But there will still be some poeple who will balk at the large one-time outlay of cash.)

In addition, you might get someone who thinks, "I'll just get a three-month.", and then gets another, and another, and before they know it, they've been playing for a year - and cc has $3 more from them then if the only choice for them was an annual membership.

Re: premium and freemium

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:34 am
by AndyDufresne
The arguments can always be made either way---but so far CC has chosen to opt for the single 1 year purchase.


--Andy

Re: premium and freemium

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:36 am
by Kotaro
AndyDufresne wrote:The arguments can always be made either way---but so far CC has chosen to opt for the single 1 year purchase.


--Andy


Is there any change that, in the future, we'll get different purchasing options?

Re: premium and freemium

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:53 am
by oVo
Dave67 wrote:However, this is how I see it. [...] a member might buy the annual membership, find out how lousy it is, and deadbeat. Now, you might say "Hey, cc just made a nice profit off that deadbeat.", but how would players in a game with that deadbeat when he left feel about that?

When someone has done the freemium test drive they already have a general idea how they feel about both this site and the game. So I seriously doubt "how lousy it is" would be part of the equation when choosing to purchase premium. Once a player advances beyond ? the likelyhood of them deadbeating all active games and quitting the site is also diminished.

Re: premium and freemium

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:17 pm
by JubjubS22
I don't think I lasted a whole month as a freemium before getting premium, so I don't have a problem with paying $25 for unlimited games, but I can see where it can be a stretch for others, especially where the cost of living is drastically different. Why not do a 10 for $10 special? Create a standard package that cost $10 USD per year and allows 10 games at a time. It still brings money to the site, but gives financially challenged players an entry into paid membership and additional benefits that a freemium account does not afford.

Like I said, not a factor for me, I'm just trying to see it through other people's eyes.

Free Memberships Gameplay

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:29 pm
by just_in_ross
I was sitting here, telling myself how much i love this game. I've been playing it for a long time, and do appreciate the hours of entertainment it has provided me. I thought it would be sweet to be able to have the ability to play 5 games at a time. Maybe a free member could acquire this privilege after a the member had earned a certain ranking or won a certain amount of games. I know the point is to get free member to eventually get hooked and get a gold membership to have unlimited games. But for those who can't afford or just unwilling to pay for such service would enjoy the "goal" of reaching the point where u can game 5 at a time. Personally, I would love to be able to have 5 games on the go, or, to be able to play one speed game (at a time) along with my 4 pending games. Just a thought.

Justin Ross :mrgreen:

Re: Free Memberships Gameplay

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:32 pm
by The Neon Peon
And the benefits for the owner of the site would be... ?

Re: Free Memberships Gameplay

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:37 pm
by Joodoo
I think complete acess to all the forum features, 4 games, and a wide variety of maps available for freemiums is sufficient
p.s.I've heard your name before from a friend of a friend of mine (who goes on facebook)...do you play mafia?

Re: Free Memberships Gameplay

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:36 am
by Woodruff
just_in_ross wrote:I was sitting here, telling myself how much i love this game. I've been playing it for a long time, and do appreciate the hours of entertainment it has provided me. I thought it would be sweet to be able to have the ability to play 5 games at a time. Maybe a free member could acquire this privilege after a the member had earned a certain ranking or won a certain amount of games. I know the point is to get free member to eventually get hooked and get a gold membership to have unlimited games. But for those who can't afford or just unwilling to pay for such service would enjoy the "goal" of reaching the point where u can game 5 at a time. Personally, I would love to be able to have 5 games on the go, or, to be able to play one speed game (at a time) along with my 4 pending games. Just a thought.
Justin Ross :mrgreen:


Win one of my tournaments...or even finish "the same as second". I have premium prizes in them.

Of course, I have no new tournament openings at the moment, but they do come!

Re: Free Memberships Gameplay

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:15 pm
by Night Strike
Going up to 5 games won't happen. Freemiums playing 1 speed game at a time also defeats most of the purpose of purchasing premium. They get free speed games on some special CC events (like the St. Patricks Map).

Re: Free Memberships Gameplay

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:20 pm
by ubersky
I think the level of access that freemiums get on this site is more than most other community sites. They have to pay the bills somehow.

Re: premium and freemium

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:33 pm
by cicero
Merge post:
premium and freemium - posts from 28 February to 2 April 2009 - first post here
Free Memberships Gameplay - posts from 9 to 10 April 2009 - first post here

Cicero

Re: premium and freemium

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:13 pm
by Rocketry
wcaclimbing wrote:
jleonnn wrote:It ain't easy to see $25 USD come floating by

Collect about 500 soda cans. Take them down to the recycling center and I think they'll pay for them.
5c per can, that'd be enough to buy a membership.

There are plenty of ways to collect $25, just be a bit creative.
You could even put your spare change in a jar. 6.8c per day and you'll have $25 by the end of the year.


Perhaps he just doesn't want to give lack $25.

Rocket.

Re: Free Memberships Gameplay

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:25 pm
by pimpdave
I think it should be 4.5 games.

In the .5 game you get half as many terts as everyone else on the drop. If you win, you become automatic conqueror.

It's the only reasonable solution.

Re: premium and freemium

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:50 pm
by Woodruff
Rocketry wrote:
wcaclimbing wrote:
jleonnn wrote:It ain't easy to see $25 USD come floating by

Collect about 500 soda cans. Take them down to the recycling center and I think they'll pay for them.
5c per can, that'd be enough to buy a membership.

There are plenty of ways to collect $25, just be a bit creative.
You could even put your spare change in a jar. 6.8c per day and you'll have $25 by the end of the year.


Perhaps he just doesn't want to give lack $25.
Rocket.


In which case, he should expect the same in return, of course.

Re: Free Memberships Gameplay

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:57 pm
by Thezzaruz
Night Strike wrote:Freemiums playing 1 speed game at a time also defeats most of the purpose of purchasing premium. They get free speed games on some special CC events (like the St. Patricks Map).

Understand the issue with "1 game at a time" but I could see giving 1 free speed game per month (or more infrequently) as a good marketing ploy. Not that I would use it much (hell I still have 1 free speed game left, don't even remember why it was given to us).

Re: Free Memberships Gameplay

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:38 am
by jleonnn
you guys can stop now, I got myself premium, no choice after getting busted for multis!

Re: premium and freemium

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:58 pm
by jonka
blakebowling wrote:Yes, extend it to 5, then I'll ask to move it to 6, then to 7, then to 8... eventually to unlimited games. In my opinion, freemiums should only have 1 game at a time, be glad that lack is more generous than I am and gives you four.

I think I would quit if you ran CC.