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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:26 pm
by Ruben Cassar
Colours: Thumbs up from your colourblind friend! Well done.
Title: Option A, but please do add the quote "vivere est vincere" to it. A rough translation from Latin would be living is winning if I'm not wrong. Out of curiosity from where did you get that quote Ben?
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:30 pm
by ZeakCytho
Ruben Cassar wrote:Colours: Thumbs up from your colourblind friend! Well done.
Title: Option A, but please do add the quote "vivere est vincere" to it. A rough translation from Latin would be living is winning if I'm not wrong. Out of curiosity from where did you get that quote Ben?
I believe you mean colorblind fiend
vivere est vincere literally means "to live is to conquer", no? What if you flip that around - vincere est vivere - to conquer is to live? I support adding that quote to option A, either as it is now or flipped around.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:40 pm
by GeneralN20
I really like option B the most. It looks more bright and fun.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:43 pm
by MarVal
Ruben Cassar wrote:Title: Option A, but please do add the quote "vivere est vincere" to it. A rough translation from Latin would be living is winning if I'm not wrong.
I agree with you Ruben (
as always)
ZeakCytho wrote:vivere est vincere literally means "to live is to conquer", no? What if you flip that around - vincere est vivere - to conquer is to live?
Thanks for the translation, ZeakCytho
Grtz
MarVal
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:14 pm
by MrBenn
The Viking wrote:What's that moon thing in options D and E?
That will be Jupiter II, the 5th or 6th moon of Jupiter, aka Europa
The lady on the bull is the goddess Europa who was abducted (or something) by Zeus.
Ruben Cassar wrote:Title: Option A, but please do add the quote "vivere est vincere" to it. A rough translation from Latin would be living is winning if I'm not wrong. Out of curiosity from where did you get that quote Ben?
I think the quote was on a list of Latin phrases, and means "to live is to conquer', as Zeak correctly observed. Incidentally, it appears to have been the personal motto of Captain John Smith of Pocahontas fame, who founded most of New England
'semper regant in europa' comes from the unofficial latin lyrics to the official european anthem (Beethovens 9th Symphony), and translates as 'Always reign in Europe'.
My personal favourite of the logos is actually version E; but the vote is far from over yet
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:16 pm
by MrBenn
Ruben Cassar wrote:Colours: Thumbs up from your colourblind friend! Well done.
How about the other fiends? Oaktown? anybody?
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:55 am
by yeti_c
MrBenn wrote:My personal favourite of the logos is actually version E; but the vote is far from over yet
That's where I put my hat.
C.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:46 am
by oaktown
I like the stars going around option B, but it may not be my favorite font choice of the lot.
Is everybody settled on these colors then? I've been distracted by looking at the brazil revamp options!
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:03 am
by sam_levi_11
i like the eu style stars around b, plus its the most relavent.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:31 am
by gimil
The 3D ones wont work! You need one of the clean simple ones to fit the rest of your map.
The font of B with one of the quotes below it would work wonders.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:19 am
by yeti_c
Me thinks this map needs a stamp or 2!?
C.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/43<
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:23 am
by MrBenn
MrBenn wrote:I've finally got around to switching all the colours around - I'm fairly happy with the balance; colder colours at the north, warmer colours towards the equator - but what do my colourblind fiends think??
Ruben Cassar wrote:Colours: Thumbs up from your colourblind friend! Well done.
oaktown wrote:Is everybody settled on these colors then?
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/43<
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:51 am
by MarVal
MrBenn wrote:oaktown wrote:Is everybody settled on these colors then?
Yes, I am
Grtz
MarVal
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:22 pm
by oaktown
The only thing I have left is that on the +1 in the inset map you could put an asterisk (*) and anther on the Motherland line... otherwise it might not be immediately clear why there are two bonuses on that color region.
Other than that, yeti is right. This map needs some stamps.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:04 pm
by yeti_c
Congrats Benny - see you in the forge soooooon!!!
C.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:05 pm
by MarVal
From me too
Grtz
MarVal
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:33 pm
by MrBenn
oaktown wrote:The only thing I have left is that on the +1 in the inset map you could put an asterisk (*) and anther on the Motherland line... otherwise it might not be immediately clear why there are two bonuses on that color region.
You're talking about the +1 on the minimap right? Part of me isn't too sure about it being on there in any case... I can either mark it with an asterisk, or could just take it off? What say you?
oaktown wrote:This map needs some stamps.
Thank you sir!
Re: >Europa (New Europe) [I] >Mountains/Title POLL<
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:48 pm
by MrBenn
cairnswk wrote:Couple of things.
1. it's starting to look really cluttered now in the legends.
you only have height of 500 in this image. Perhaps add 50px or so to the bottom of the map and take the impassables out of the bonus mini map and put them down the bottom. that would give some more space to the legend mini map.
2. not sure i like the stars in the title, although i don't like the name either - Europa - sounds like some greek goddess rather than a continental name. could it be modern "europe 2000"?
3. initially i had a little trouble working out smo and vco....i had to look for them in the key and make 2 + 3 = 4
4. the moutains look like meringue peaks straight of the oven
but i think they are suitable
5. had to look hard to work out what lt was between austraia and switzerland
Hope this helps some.
Looking good.
Cairns, sorry for not responding sooner; I got distracted by the title poll etc.
1. The legend has been changed slightly since the update you commented on - is it better now?
2. The title is in the process of being changed. The name changed to Europa some time ago, following discussion about New Europe / Europe 2007/2008/MMVIII... I quite like 'Europa MMVIII' as a name...
3. Hmmm... I'll move the names up a couple of pixels to take them away from the O's. (The O's were □'s at one point but looked better as circles)
4. Mountains are hard to do; I like that you think they look like crispy meringues... tasty
5. Liechtenstein... I'm not too sure what else to do there without distorting that Austria and Switzerland border each other?
Thanks for you advice
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:52 pm
by oaktown
MrBenn wrote:oaktown wrote:The only thing I have left is that on the +1 in the inset map you could put an asterisk (*) and anther on the Motherland line... otherwise it might not be immediately clear why there are two bonuses on that color region.
You're talking about the +1 on the minimap right? Part of me isn't too sure about it being on there in any case... I can either mark it with an asterisk, or could just take it off? What say you?
Either would be more clear... your call. Another option would be to lose the "+1" on the minimap, but put a small white asterisk on both of the motherland territories, as well as an asterisk on the motherland bonus line below it.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:57 am
by Zarg78
At a glance the map looks a lot better the existing Europe map.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:24 pm
by MrBenn
Thanks Zarg
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:56 am
by whitestazn88
here's your comment mr benn.
i never actually took a look at this until it was pretty far along on its way. it has looked good to me and very playable for a while. obviously i'm not one of those nit picky types of people. keep up the good work, can't wait to play this either, as i typically like bigger maps
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:57 pm
by MrBenn
Update!- I've removed the +1 from the minimap (for the motherland bonus) which helps avoid confusion. I experimneted with putting an asterisk/other symbol there, but this didn't help clarity.
- I've also made the 'motherland' text less fuzzy.
- The territory labels for San Marino (sm) and Vatican City (vc) have been shifted so that they don't look like smo/vco
- The title is temporarily absent - I've asked that the poll be removed, and I'll have a look at trying something based upon the outcome of that!
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:27 pm
by edbeard
so transcontinental is a really +5 total and does not include an override right?
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:02 am
by ZeakCytho
If you hold kgd and Russia you get +1. If you hold those two plus Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Turkey, you get another +3, for a total of +4, right?