Conquer Club

Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:05 pm**

MrBenn wrote:
sailorseal wrote:
MrBenn wrote:Still waiting for the XML to be done... I've almost lost patience with this

Sorry its that there is so much on this XML that needs fixing

Then fix it dear sailor,
dear sailor, dear sailor.
Then fix it dear sailor,
dear sailor fix it!

It should be up by tomorrow, thanks for the encouragement poem

Can I make it my sig

?

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:38 am**

sailorseal wrote:Can I make it my sig ?

Only if you fix it

Posted: **Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:28 pm**

I always feel like I'm picking at a sore wound when I bump this thread, but...

In the next two weeks or so, I wanted to start my next tournament. The plan is to have it be totally Canada-based. So, the Canada, Montreal and new Vancouver maps will all be included. I'd love to include this one, as well. So, any updated idea on an actual ETA? If it's by October 1st, I'll wait.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:40 am**

Alright I just tested http://h1.ripway.com/thenobodies80/gulfe.xml and all the coordinates are correct (I'm not sure how centered some are) but they are all correct

So which territories need to be centered?

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:15 pm**

sailorseal wrote:So which territories need to be centered?

Try every single one.

Also, the <border>s look good, I just did a run-through, ask Forza for the check.

Posted: **Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:16 am**

Remember to code the starting positions and starting neutrals :!:

iancanton wrote:have the starting neutrals and start positions been omitted from the xml file?
sailorseal wrote:Staring Neutrals:
Labrador City

Starting Positions:
Set 1 is fredericton with GF Windsor
Set 2 is saint john withGros Morne
Set 3 is moncton with St Johns

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:52 am**

Argh... This map seems impossible to finish.

At this point I am helpless as I don't know much XML codes. The names are all correct and the map is fine, it only needs to be shrunk two pixels to fit in the small category.

All I can ask is to please get this map finished, I really don't want to see a years worth of hard work going to waste. If I can help, please let me know. I will be watching this topic.

Unit_2.

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:25 pm**

Unit_2 wrote:Argh... This map seems impossible to finish.

At this point I am helpless as I don't know much XML codes. The names are all correct and the map is fine, it only needs to be shrunk two pixels to fit in the small category.

All I can ask is to please get this map finished, I really don't want to see a years worth of hard work going to waste. If I can help, please let me know. I will be watching this topic.

Unit_2.

If you still need help with the XML, I could pitch in, but I don't want to upset sailorseal or anyone else who might feel the job is theirs.

And as far as the small map goes, can no one simply load the file, select all but the top and bottom rows of pixels and resave it? It can't be much more than that to fix this. Of course, that will mess up the small map coordinates in the XML... I have GIMP, but only basic experience with it. If someone wants me to try trimming two pixels off the height of the small map, point me at a file and I will give it a go. I would like to see this map get going. It's focused on a Canadian region, and that's good enough for me.

Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:20 pm**

actually i think its more like two years of hard work...

Posted: **Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:11 am**

[Moved]

It would appear that development of this map has stalled. If the mapmaker wants to continue with the map, then one of the Foundry Moderators will be able to help put the thread back into the Foundry system, after an update has been made. ;-)

Posted: **Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:56 am**

With major contributions from Orange-Idaho-Dog on the xml, The Golfe du St. Laurent map is complete. Updates below, Tested with no errors, armies and xml.

Large (No Armies):
[bigimg]http://i.imagehost.org/0487/stlaurentlarge.jpg[/bigimg]
http://i.imagehost.org/0487/stlaurentlarge.jpg

Large (With Armies):
[bigimg]http://h.imagehost.org/0024/stlaurenttestedlarge.png[/bigimg]

Small (No Armies):
[bigimg]http://i.imagehost.org/0663/stlaurentsmall.jpg[/bigimg]
http://i.imagehost.org/0663/stlaurentsmall.jpg

Small (With Armies):
[bigimg]http://h.imagehost.org/0268/stlaurenttestedsmall.png[/bigimg]

XMl:

(Link):
http://h1.ripway.com/orangeidahodog/gulfxmlcopy3.txt

(Code):

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      <map>
      <title>Golfe du St-Laurent</title>
      <smallwidth>600</smallwidth>
      <smallheight>425</smallheight>
      <largewidth>720</largewidth>
      <largeheight>510</largeheight>
      <filetype>jpeg</filetype>
      <continent>
      <name>Great North</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Nunavik</territory>
      <territory>Baie-James</territory>
      <territory>Caniapiscau</territory>
      <territory>Saguenay</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>Labrador </name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Nunatsiavut</territory>
      <territory>Labrador City</territory>
      <territory>Goose Bay</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>Newfoundland</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Gros Morne</territory>
      <territory>GF-Windsor</territory>
      <territory>St. John's</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>Nova Scotia </name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Evangeline Trail</territory>
      <territory>Halifax</territory>
      <territory>P.E.I.</territory>
      <territory>Cape Breton</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>New Brunswick</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Fredericton</territory>
      <territory>Moncton</territory>
      <territory>Saint John</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>Est du Quebec</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Bas St-Laurent</territory>
      <territory>Chaudiere</territory>
      <territory>Estrie</territory>
      <territory>Monteregie</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>Sud du Quebec</name>
      <bonus>6</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Montreal</territory>
      <territory>Laurentides</territory>
      <territory>Outaouais</territory>
      <territory>Lanaudiere</territory>
      <territory>Mauricie</territory>
      <territory>Abitibi</territory>
      <territory>Quebec</territory>
      <territory>Charlevoix</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>Duplessis</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Gaspesie</territory>
      <territory>Anticosti</territory>
      <territory>Minganie</territory>
      <territory>Sept-Rivieres</territory> 
      </components>
      </continent>
      <territory>
      <name>Nunavik</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Baie-James</border>
      <border>Caniapiscau</border>
      <border>Labrador City</border>
      <border>Nunatsiavut</border>   
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>195</smallx>
      <smally>78</smally>         
      <largex>242</largex>
      <largey>88</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Baie-James</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Nunavik</border>
      <border>Caniapiscau</border>
      <border>Saguenay</border>
      <border>Abitibi</border> 
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>116</smallx>
      <smally>165</smally>
      <largex>151</largex>
      <largey>189</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Caniapiscau</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Nunavik</border>
      <border>Labrador City</border>
      <border>Saguenay</border>
      <border>Baie-James</border>
      <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>206</smallx>
      <smally>143</smally>
      <largex>255</largex>
      <largey>164</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Saguenay</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Caniapiscau</border>
      <border>Baie-James</border>
      <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
      <border>Charlevoix</border>
      <border>Quebec</border>
      <border>Mauricie</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>171</smallx>
      <smally>234</smally>
      <largex>214</largex>
      <largey>269</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Nunatsiavut</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Nunavik</border>
      <border>Labrador City</border>
      <border>Goose Bay</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>328</smallx>
      <smally>92</smally>
      <largex>396</largex>
      <largey>104</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Labrador City</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Nunatsiavut</border>
      <border>Goose Bay</border>
      <border>Minganie</border>
      <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
      <border>Caniapiscau</border>
      <border>Nunavik</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>287</smallx>
      <smally>161</smally>
      <largex>349</largex>
      <largey>185</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Goose Bay</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Nunatsiavut</border>
      <border>Minganie</border>
      <border>Labrador City</border> 
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>369</smallx>
      <smally>152</smally>
      <largex>443</largex>
      <largey>175</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Gros Morne</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Minganie</border>
      <border>GF-Windsor</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>477</smallx>
      <smally>203</smally>
      <largex>569</largex>
      <largey>234</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>GF-Windsor</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Gros Morne</border>
      <border>St. John's</border> 
      <border>Cape Breton</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>496</smallx>
      <smally>232</smally>
      <largex>591</largex>
      <largey>268</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>St. John's</name>
      <borders>
      <border>GF-Windsor</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>545</smallx>
      <smally>230</smally>
      <largex>648</largex>
      <largey>265</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Evangeline Trail</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Halifax</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>376</smallx>
      <smally>402</smally>
      <largex>452</largex>
      <largey>465</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Halifax</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Evangeline Trail</border>
      <border>Cape Breton</border>
      <border>P.E.I.</border>
      <border>Moncton</border>
      <border>Saint John</border> 
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>413</smallx>
      <smally>375</smally>
      <largex>495</largex>
      <largey>433</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Cape Breton</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Halifax</border>
      <border>Iles de la Madeleine</border>
      <border>GF-Windsor</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>460</smallx>
      <smally>301</smally>
      <largex>549</largex>
      <largey>348</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>P.E.I.</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Iles de la Madeleine</border>
      <border>Moncton</border>
      <border>Halifax</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>384</smallx>
      <smally>316</smally>
      <largex>461</largex>
      <largey>365</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Saint John</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Halifax</border>
      <border>Moncton</border>
      <border>Fredericton</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>318</smallx>
      <smally>387</smally>
      <largex>385</largex>
      <largey>447</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Moncton</name>
      <borders>
      <border>P.E.I.</border>
      <border>Halifax</border>
      <border>Saint John</border>
      <border>Fredericton</border>
      <border>Bas St-Laurent</border>
      <border>Gaspesie</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>328</smallx>
      <smally>310</smally>
      <largex>396</largex>
      <largey>358</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Fredericton</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Bas St-Laurent</border>
      <border>Moncton</border>
      <border>Saint John</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>298</smallx>
      <smally>334</smally>
      <largex>362</largex>
      <largey>386</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Bas St-Laurent</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Gaspesie</border>
      <border>Moncton</border>
      <border>Fredericton</border>
      <border>Chaudiere</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>271</smallx>
      <smally>290</smally>
      <largex>330</largex>
      <largey>334</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Chaudiere</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Quebec</border>
      <border>Bas St-Laurent</border>
      <border>Estrie</border>
      <border>Monteregie</border> 
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>213</smallx>
      <smally>367</smally>
      <largex>263</largex>
      <largey>424</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Estrie</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Chaudiere</border>
      <border>Monteregie</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>204</smallx>
      <smally>409</smally>
      <largex>252</largex>
      <largey>473</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Monteregie</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Montreal</border>
      <border>Chaudiere</border>   
      <border>Estrie</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
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      <smally>403</smally>
      <largex>200</largex>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Montreal</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Monteregie</border>
      <border>Laurentides</border>   
      <border>Lanaudiere</border>
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      <coordinates>
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      <smally>402</smally>
      <largex>153</largex>
      <largey>465</largey>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Lanaudiere</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Montreal</border>
      <border>Laurentides</border>
      <border>Outaouais</border>
      <border>Mauricie</border>
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      <coordinates>
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      <smally>351</smally>
      <largex>148</largex>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Laurentides</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Montreal</border>
      <border>Lanaudiere</border>
      <border>Outaouais</border>
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      <coordinates>
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      <smally>397</smally>
      <largex>106</largex>
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      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Outaouais</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Abitibi</border>
      <border>Mauricie</border>
      <border>Lanaudiere</border>
      <border>Laurentides</border>   
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
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      <smally>357</smally>
      <largex>51</largex>
      <largey>413</largey>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Abitibi</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Outaouais</border>
      <border>Mauricie</border> 
      <border>Baie-James</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>45</smallx>
      <smally>274</smally>
      <largex>69</largex>
      <largey>316</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Mauricie</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Saguenay</border>
      <border>Quebec</border>
      <border>Lanaudiere</border>
      <border>Outaouais</border>
      <border>Abitibi</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>122</smallx>
      <smally>295</smally>
      <largex>157</largex>
      <largey>341</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Quebec</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Chaudiere</border>
      <border>Mauricie</border>
      <border>Saguenay</border>
      <border>Charlevoix</border>
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      <coordinates>
      <smallx>204</smallx>
      <smally>309</smally>
      <largex>252</largex>
      <largey>357</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Charlevoix</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
      <border>Saguenay</border>
      <border>Quebec</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>235</smallx>
      <smally>265</smally>
      <largex>288</largex>
      <largey>306</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Gaspesie</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Moncton</border>
      <border>Bas St-Laurent</border>
      <border>Anticosti</border> 
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>317</smallx>
      <smally>256</smally>
      <largex>384</largex>
      <largey>295</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Anticosti</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Gaspesie</border>
      <border>Minganie</border>
      <border>Iles de la Madeleine</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>381</smallx>
      <smally>236</smally>
      <largex>458</largex>
      <largey>272</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Iles de la Madeleine</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Anticosti</border>
      <border>Cape Breton</border>
      <border>P.E.I.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>427</smallx>
      <smally>256</smally>
      <largex>511</largex>
      <largey>295</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Minganie</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
      <border>Anticosti</border>
      <border>Gros Morne</border>
      <border>Goose Bay</border>
      <border>Labrador City</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>384</smallx>
      <smally>196</smally>
      <largex>461</largex>
      <largey>225</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Sept-Rivieres</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Minganie</border>
      <border>Charlevoix</border>
      <border>Saguenay</border>
      <border>Caniapiscau</border>
      <border>Labrador City</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>263</smallx>
      <smally>223</smally>
      <largex>321</largex>
      <largey>257</largey> 
      </coordinates>     
      </territory>
      </map>

The thread needs moved back to Final Forge for Beta if found complete. If not, Final Forge for further editing please.

Unit_2.

Posted: **Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:16 am**

[moved] back to the land of the living. welcome back, unit_2!

ian.

Posted: **Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:04 am**

Welcome Back!

Going to write a sort of "to do" list:

iancanton wrote:since there are 3 3-region bonuses and 3 4-region bonuses, the chance of the first player starting with a bonus of at least +2 in a 1v1 game approaches 15%, which is too high for comfort.

iancanton wrote:our map actually does not meet the current standards for the gameplay stamp because of this. according to the opening post, there are 34 regions, which means all games will start with at least 1 neutral. the easiest fix to the map, without touching the graphics, is to have fixed starting neutrals on 1 region within only 1 of the 3-region bonus zones, such as labrador city or gros morne (maybe not moncton because they block too much there); 3 sets of 2 start positions, each consisting of 1 region in both of the 3-region bonus zones that do not have fixed starting neutrals, are also needed (see holy roman empire for how to do this).

ian.

sailorseal wrote:
Unit_2 wrote:You pick Sailor, it does not mater to me.

Staring Neutrals:
Labrador City

Starting Positions:
Set 1 is fredericton with GF Windsor
Set 2 is saint john withGros Morne
Set 3 is moncton with St Johns

Those starting positions and starting neutral aren't in your xml file.
Your file is a .txt, not a .xml
Considering that i'm reading a txt file i assume you should add the header for your xml file...
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```
<?xml version="1.0"?>
```
Add Iles de la Madaleine to the Duplessis bonus.
Can you use special characters?
this is a list of what you need
- é --> é
- è --> è
- Î --> Î

When your file is ready, go here: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=50034 and follow the instructions in the first post.

Nobodies

p.s. you have to center some coordinates on both versions and , if you like, change the mapmaker names on the map.

Posted: **Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:07 pm**

The problem I had with centering the coordinates was the circles are 24 x 24, which means there is no center. I'm not sure how to go about fixing this, but I'll see what I can do.

Thanks for the input guys.

Posted: **Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:17 pm**

é ê etc aren't needed in their respective Unicode markups. Just keep them as is.

Posted: **Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:12 pm**

Unit can add them in when the rest of the xml is done if need be. The main focus is to get Nobodies list completed. I'm not sure how to make a territory start Neutral, and the <positions> tag isn't working properly at the moment, I've got a PM in to Yeti C for help.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:16 pm**

Updates:

New Large & Small coordinates

[bigimg]http://a.imagehost.org/0983/stlaurenttestedlarge3.png[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://a.imagehost.org/0111/stlaurenttestedsmall3.png[/bigimg]

Updated XML
Tested with no errors.

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
      <map>
      <title>Golfe du St-Laurent</title>
      <smallwidth>600</smallwidth>
      <smallheight>425</smallheight>
      <largewidth>720</largewidth>
      <largeheight>510</largeheight>
      <filetype>jpeg</filetype>
    <positions>
       <position> 
          <territory>Fredericton</territory>
          <territory>GF-Windsor</territory>
       </position>
       <position>
          <territory>Saint John</territory>
          <territory>Gros Morne</territory>
       </position>
       <position>
          <territory>Moncton</territory>
          <territory>St. John's</territory>
       </position>
    </positions>
      <continent>
      <name>Great North</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Nunavik</territory>
      <territory>Baie-James</territory>
      <territory>Caniapiscau</territory>
      <territory>Saguenay</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>Labrador</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Nunatsiavut</territory>
      <territory>Labrador City</territory>
      <territory>Goose Bay</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>Newfoundland</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Gros Morne</territory>
      <territory>GF-Windsor</territory>
      <territory>St. John's</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>Nova Scotia </name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Evangeline Trail</territory>
      <territory>Halifax</territory>
      <territory>P.E.I.</territory>
      <territory>Cape Breton</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>New Brunswick</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Fredericton</territory>
      <territory>Moncton</territory>
      <territory>Saint John</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>Est du Quebec</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Bas St-Laurent</territory>
      <territory>Chaudiere</territory>
      <territory>Estrie</territory>
      <territory>Monteregie</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>Sud du Quebec</name>
      <bonus>6</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Montreal</territory>
      <territory>Laurentides</territory>
      <territory>Outaouais</territory>
      <territory>Lanaudiere</territory>
      <territory>Mauricie</territory>
      <territory>Abitibi</territory>
      <territory>Quebec</territory>
      <territory>Charlevoix</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <continent>
      <name>Duplessis</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
      <territory>Gaspesie</territory>
      <territory>Anticosti</territory>
      <territory>Minganie</territory>
      <territory>Sept-Rivieres</territory>
      <territory>Iles de la Madeleine</territory>
      </components>
      </continent>
      <territory>
      <name>Nunavik</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Baie-James</border>
      <border>Caniapiscau</border>
      <border>Labrador City</border>
      <border>Nunatsiavut</border>   
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>196</smallx>
      <smally>78</smally>         
      <largex>242</largex>
      <largey>87</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Baie-James</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Nunavik</border>
      <border>Caniapiscau</border>
      <border>Saguenay</border>
      <border>Abitibi</border>
      <border>Mauricie</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>117</smallx>
      <smally>165</smally>
      <largex>151</largex>
      <largey>188</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Caniapiscau</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Nunavik</border>
      <border>Labrador City</border>
      <border>Saguenay</border>
      <border>Baie-James</border>
      <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>207</smallx>
      <smally>143</smally>
      <largex>255</largex>
      <largey>163</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Saguenay</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Caniapiscau</border>
      <border>Baie-James</border>
      <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
      <border>Charlevoix</border>
      <border>Quebec</border>
      <border>Mauricie</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>172</smallx>
      <smally>234</smally>
      <largex>214</largex>
      <largey>268</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Nunatsiavut</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Nunavik</border>
      <border>Labrador City</border>
      <border>Goose Bay</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>329</smallx>
      <smally>92</smally>
      <largex>396</largex>
      <largey>103</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Labrador City</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Nunatsiavut</border>
      <border>Goose Bay</border>
      <border>Minganie</border>
      <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
      <border>Caniapiscau</border>
      <border>Nunavik</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>288</smallx>
      <smally>162</smally>
      <largex>349</largex>
      <largey>184</largey>     
      </coordinates>
      <neutral>3</neutral>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Goose Bay</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Nunatsiavut</border>
      <border>Minganie</border>
      <border>Labrador City</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>369</smallx>
      <smally>153</smally>
      <largex>443</largex>
      <largey>174</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Gros Morne</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Minganie</border>
      <border>GF-Windsor</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>478</smallx>
      <smally>204</smally>
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      <largey>233</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>GF-Windsor</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Gros Morne</border>
      <border>St. John's</border>
      <border>Cape Breton</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>497</smallx>
      <smally>233</smally>
      <largex>591</largex>
      <largey>267</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>St. John's</name>
      <borders>
      <border>GF-Windsor</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>546</smallx>
      <smally>231</smally>
      <largex>648</largex>
      <largey>264</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Evangeline Trail</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Halifax</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>377</smallx>
      <smally>403</smally>
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      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Halifax</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Evangeline Trail</border>
      <border>Cape Breton</border>
      <border>P.E.I.</border>
      <border>Moncton</border>
      <border>Saint John</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>414</smallx>
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      <largey>432</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Cape Breton</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Halifax</border>
      <border>Iles de la Madeleine</border>
      <border>GF-Windsor</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
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      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>P.E.I.</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Iles de la Madeleine</border>
      <border>Moncton</border>
      <border>Halifax</border>
      </borders>
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      <smallx>385</smallx>
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      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Saint John</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Halifax</border>
      <border>Moncton</border>
      <border>Fredericton</border>
      </borders>
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      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Moncton</name>
      <borders>
      <border>P.E.I.</border>
      <border>Halifax</border>
      <border>Saint John</border>
      <border>Fredericton</border>
      <border>Bas St-Laurent</border>
      <border>Gaspesie</border>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Fredericton</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Bas St-Laurent</border>
      <border>Moncton</border>
      <border>Saint John</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
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      </territory>
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      <name>Bas St-Laurent</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Gaspesie</border>
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      </borders>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Chaudiere</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Quebec</border>
      <border>Bas St-Laurent</border>
      <border>Estrie</border>
      <border>Monteregie</border>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Estrie</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Chaudiere</border>
      <border>Monteregie</border>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Monteregie</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Montreal</border>
      <border>Chaudiere</border>   
      <border>Estrie</border>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Montreal</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Monteregie</border>
      <border>Laurentides</border>   
      <border>Lanaudiere</border>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Lanaudiere</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Montreal</border>
      <border>Laurentides</border>
      <border>Outaouais</border>
      <border>Mauricie</border>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Laurentides</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Montreal</border>
      <border>Lanaudiere</border>
      <border>Outaouais</border>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Outaouais</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Abitibi</border>
      <border>Mauricie</border>
      <border>Lanaudiere</border>
      <border>Laurentides</border>   
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Abitibi</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Outaouais</border>
      <border>Mauricie</border>
      <border>Baie-James</border>
      </borders>
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      <smally>275</smally>
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      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Mauricie</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Saguenay</border>
      <border>Quebec</border>
      <border>Lanaudiere</border>
      <border>Outaouais</border>
      <border>Abitibi</border>
      <border>Baie-James</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
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      <smally>296</smally>
      <largex>157</largex>
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      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Quebec</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Chaudiere</border>
      <border>Mauricie</border>
      <border>Saguenay</border>
      <border>Charlevoix</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
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      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Charlevoix</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
      <border>Saguenay</border>
      <border>Quebec</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
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      <largex>288</largex>
      <largey>305</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Gaspesie</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Moncton</border>
      <border>Bas St-Laurent</border>
      <border>Anticosti</border>
      </borders>
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      <largex>384</largex>
      <largey>294</largey>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Anticosti</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Gaspesie</border>
      <border>Minganie</border>
      <border>Iles de la Madeleine</border>
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      <coordinates>
      <smallx>382</smallx>
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      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Iles de la Madeleine</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Anticosti</border>
      <border>Cape Breton</border>
      <border>P.E.I.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
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      <smally>257</smally>
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      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Minganie</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
      <border>Anticosti</border>
      <border>Gros Morne</border>
      <border>Goose Bay</border>
      <border>Labrador City</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>385</smallx>
      <smally>197</smally>
      <largex>461</largex>
      <largey>224</largey>
      </coordinates>
      </territory>
      <territory>
      <name>Sept-Rivieres</name>
      <borders>
      <border>Minganie</border>
      <border>Charlevoix</border>
      <border>Saguenay</border>
      <border>Caniapiscau</border>
      <border>Labrador City</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
      <smallx>264</smallx>
      <smally>224</smally>
      <largex>321</largex>
      <largey>256</largey>
      </coordinates>     
      </territory>
      </map>

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:42 pm**

XML was checked by Forza AZ and he said it is OK! We are all ready to go to Beta as soon as someone gives us the XML stamp.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:08 pm**

Most, if not all, of your small map coordinates are off. They were better before. If I'm not mistaken, you changed all of the coordinate pairs' y axis coord instead of the x axis.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:28 pm**

They're as close as I could get them, I spent over 2 hours trying... I couldn't get them to be exactly in the center, so I got as close as I could and made each territory in the same spot on the circle. I can try again if it needs done, but it looks better than before in my opinion.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:39 pm**

http://h.imagehost.org/0268/stlaurenttestedsmall.png
http://a.imagehost.org/0111/stlaurenttestedsmall3.png

Put them into two FF tabs and switch back and fort repeatedly. If you think the former is better than the latter, well…

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:41 pm**

Me and Unit both think the 2nd is better :lol:

I'll work on another copy anyway, we'll see how it turns out...

That's kind of how it is though, there is no 'middle' between the two, It's always going to be to one side more than the other.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:16 pm**

This is the current location of Nunavik in the XML on the first page of the thread; 196x 78y:

This is Nunavik moved 1 pixel to the left; 195x 78y:

Neither look right to me, I agree with you there. But there's no way to fix it with the current graphics, and we're kind of stuck when it comes to the graphics because the psd file was lost.

Other than completely scrapping the map and starting over, which neither me or Unit have the tools or skills to do, I don't know of any other options.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:33 pm**

[bigimg]http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq219/the-killing/Untitled-1-9.jpg[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq219/the-killing/stlaurenttestedsmall3.jpg[/bigimg]

If there was a .psd available I am going to shoot someone.

Note: change XML to say
Code: Select all
<filetype>jpg</filetype>

The large may look a bit weird, but do it yourself if you don't like it. Circles should be very easily centered.

Orange-Idaho-Dog wrote:The problem I had with centering the coordinates was the circles are 24 x 24, which means there is no center. I'm not sure how to go about fixing this, but I'll see what I can do.

Thanks for the input guys.

Other way around—with an even number of pixels you can space it so there is an even number of pixels on each side of the coordinate.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:03 pm**

My parts done for the time being, everything else here rests on Unit's shoulders. He said he refuses to use the large version, but agrees with me that the small version looks excellent.

The main reason the map isn't in beta testing already is that Lone.Prophet left CC (I believe) and lost all of the .psd files long ago during a computer crash. I'm voting to find someone new to re-do the graphics from scratch with Unit's first drafts (I may even take a crack at it after I learn to use some more sophisticated programs).

There are many things I personally can't stand with the way the map looks right now, such as the brown blurs around Laurentides, the mis-shapen army circle at Iles de la Madeleine in the small version ect. Small things, but unfixable as far as I can tell. I'm sure someone out there could fix these up some, but never to the way they originally looked some time ago in earlier versions.

Unit so far is against this idea, but eventually I'm sure he'll see this is the best option.

I'd really like to see this map on the site, I love the gameplay, color scheme and the fact it's not some sort of mythical or war map.

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