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Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:31 pm
by tryagain
OK, sorted it out.

It seems to have been caused by the addition of a new map which I think is Iceland.

Uncheck the points and ranks box. Run a scan. That worked for me.

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:14 am
by chipv
BaldAdonis wrote:When a player's score is under -1000, he goes back to being called a New Recruit. I suppose this is just the way it's coded (if (games>5)&&(rank>x) then... else New Recruit). Since a player can't go lower than 1 in the scoring system, there's no way to say what he would actually be called. This is not really necessary to fix, I just thought it was funny to have it say "You need this many points to attain the rank of Cook".


This does need changing. I have put the same criteria on rank progression as the site does ... which is perhaps a little too much per map.
As you say, the one difference here is that you can get negative scores per map.

I think maybe just removes the games criterion as that makes it difficult per map.

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:25 am
by BaldAdonis
chipv wrote:I think maybe just removes the games criterion as that makes it difficult per map.
So essentially remove "New Recruit" as a rank? I suppose it doesn't matter, people can see if you've played fewer than 5 games on any setting.

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:27 am
by chipv
BaldAdonis wrote:
chipv wrote:I think maybe just removes the games criterion as that makes it difficult per map.
So essentially remove "New Recruit" as a rank? I suppose it doesn't matter, people can see if you've played fewer than 5 games on any setting.


Yep plus removal of required games played. Just keep it on points.

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:54 pm
by firth4eva
I got 16 unique defeats on iceland and I only played that map once. And I lost :(

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:59 pm
by chipv
firth4eva wrote:I got 16 unique defeats on iceland and I only played that map once. And I lost :(


Full rescan will sort it out. Iceland has been inserted into the middle of the maplist so your saved data will be shifted.

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:22 pm
by chipv
1.5.6 has a first version of charts for Map Rank.

You will need a full rescan to see any of them if using the left menu.

You can see how your points have increased/decreased graphically over any period of time you choose.
You can also do this for each map.
Also you can see your highest and lowest scores over any period.

Hover over the numbers at the bottom of the chart to see what time the number represents.

Each point on the chart is a single point loss/gain. That means you will get several points for a win and one for a loss.

Now that I have ordered data by time, I can think about weighting next.

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:43 pm
by Night Strike
=D> =D> =D>

You are amazing.

I still think some things could be improved upon on the graph display, but it's definitely better than nothing. This update should have been 1.6.0 or 2.0.0 with this great addition.

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:48 pm
by chipv
Night Strike wrote:=D> =D> =D>

You are amazing.

I still think some things could be improved upon on the graph display, but it's definitely better than nothing. This update should have been 1.6.0 or 2.0.0 with this great addition.


Yeah, it's a first pass only, the guts of it are done, so can ask people for ideas on making it look better.
There are a ton of stats possible with the time ordering now.

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:03 pm
by tryagain
These charts look like a superb extra feature. Quite a few people have been calling for something like this for a while. Thanks for the hard work.

I can get a clickable cursor but don't seem to be able to bring up the charts at present. Is there something obvious I have missed?

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:08 pm
by chipv
tryagain wrote:These charts look like a superb extra feature. Quite a few people have been calling for something like this for a while. Thanks for the hard work.

I can get a clickable cursor but don't seem to be able to bring up the charts at present. Is there something obvious I have missed?


Have you done a full rescan? (Toggle Rank and Points checkbox etc)

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:54 am
by chipv
Just wondering if the charts are not obvious to get to.
The first column is highlighted in yellow. Click on any of them to get a chart.

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Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:31 pm
by chipv
So 1.6.1 allows you to hover over each point to see the score.
There was a problem preventing charts after sorting the table but that is now fixed.
Cosmetic changes pretty obvious. When the left column of map rank goes yellow you can click for charts.

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:01 pm
by chipv
1.6.2 basically cosmetic changes.

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:25 pm
by FATHARRY
Hey chip :-)

How easy is it to get maprank to generate average opponent's rating points?

See also my thread: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=59621

Any thoughts about implementation of what I have laid out in this thread?

Harry

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:57 pm
by chipv
FATHARRY wrote:Hey chip :-)

How easy is it to get maprank to generate average opponent's rating points?

See also my thread: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=59621

Any thoughts about implementation of what I have laid out in this thread?

Harry


Just replying now...

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:43 pm
by jiminski
hey Chip, would it be easy to add a Map territory count to the Game finder page?

Classic 42 etc.

It would be useful for Tournament organisers in choosing maps suited to different numbers of players. And the same for Clans, to help guide maps in Challenges.

Also, I can't speak for map makers, but it may help them identify gaps in types of maps.

cheers, jim

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:58 pm
by chipv
jiminski wrote:hey Chip, would it be easy to add a Map territory count to the Game finder page?

Classic 42 etc.

It would be useful for Tournament organisers in choosing maps suited to different numbers of players. And the same for Clans, to help guide maps in Challenges.

Also, I can't speak for map makers, but it may help them identify gaps in types of maps.

cheers, jim


Yes it is possible but surely more suited to a site modification?
These numbers never change and are contained in reasonably fixed .xml files so
for data that is fixed, I think the site could provide it in the game finder.
The list would always need to be updated for new maps of course.

So, yes it would be very easy to put into a script, save away the data after the first read and poll for updates...
but easier perhaps to do from the site.

Map Rank Bug?

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:34 pm
by Big Whiskey
Is any1 having errors in there map rank?I am 13-0 on chinese checkers but it says i am 1-8...its the new one 1.62,i installed it yesterday.So,is any1 else having the same problem?

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:30 pm
by Night Strike
chipv wrote:Yes it is possible but surely more suited to a site modification?
These numbers never change and are contained in reasonably fixed .xml files so
for data that is fixed, I think the site could provide it in the game finder.
The list would always need to be updated for new maps of course.

So, yes it would be very easy to put into a script, save away the data after the first read and poll for updates...
but easier perhaps to do from the site.


However we all know that lack is much more likely to install something to the site if someone else can do the bulk of the coding first. (Just like how he waits for php to make some mods rather than doing them himself.)

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:05 am
by RedRover23B
Chip,

Is it possible to have map rank show only the games played for a that day or a selected time period?

For example, you can change the player and the map but what about instead of it being for every game ever played allow an option for it to be only for the last 24 hours or only for games played on the 18th or games that have been played between the 10th and the 18th.

Would this be too much trouble to do? Very good job with the script by the way, it is very useful.

Re: Map Rank Bug?

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:33 am
by chipv
Big Whiskey wrote:Is any1 having errors in there map rank?I am 13-0 on chinese checkers but it says i am 1-8...its the new one 1.62,i installed it yesterday.So,is any1 else having the same problem?


You need to do a full rescan because there are new maps in the maplist which push the saved map rank data out of alignment.

Uncheck Rank and Points checkbox. Run Map Rank
Check Rank and Points checkbox. Run Map Rank.

In future can you post in the Map Rank thread please.

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=53395

btw, congratulations!

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:37 am
by chipv
RedRover23B wrote:Chip,

Is it possible to have map rank show only the games played for a that day or a selected time period?

For example, you can change the player and the map but what about instead of it being for every game ever played allow an option for it to be only for the last 24 hours or only for games played on the 18th or games that have been played between the 10th and the 18th.

Would this be too much trouble to do? Very good job with the script by the way, it is very useful.


If you just want to look at points, then you can use the charts to do this.

Run Map Rank normally and then change the time period to look at in the chart window.
The numbers at the bottom of the page (From and To) determine the time period.
The real time is displayed just above, so yes, it is possible for points and more stats coming soon.

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:05 pm
by OliverFA
The new version is really amazing! It is the dream of any statistics lover ;)

A small change that I think would improve the graphics would be to calculate the lower value of the scale. Right now, it is always 0. The result is the the lines are only on the top part of the graph, and the lower part is not used.

Re: Greasemonkey script : Conquer Club Map Rank

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:11 pm
by chipv
OliverFA wrote:The new version is really amazing! It is the dream of any statistics lover ;)

A small change that I think would improve the graphics would be to calculate the lower value of the scale. Right now, it is always 0. The result is the the lines are only on the top part of the graph, and the lower part is not used.


Yeah, good call, I'll see what I can do, thanks for the feedback!