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that was when I was trying to find out what was going on before it was told who was what. The mod told us that you were not a hider

qbert68 wrote:that was when I was trying to find out what was going on before it was told who was what. The mod told us that you were not a hider

Yes, but crasp was just revealed exactly what role he was... and then you asked if he was a townie. That was scummy to me, just saying. I have a post I am working on, and I'm not ready to vote as of yet, so let's talk.

Did you here anything while you were kidnapped that could give us an idea of you the mafia is or what they are planning on doing. And why did they let you go.

TheCrown wrote:I had a bag over my head, like I was a Raiders fan or something. I saw nothing and have no idea what my kidnapper(s) wanted.

I went back and read through everything, and will go back again today and re-read the last day. I don't blame you all for voting czar, although I would have gone elsewhere. I will post later after re-reading, but in the meantime, it would be nice if someone had a night action that actually found something out. By the way Sirius wrote his scene, Tuffy DID find something out, but was killed before he could tell us.

we can talk about anything you want

TheCrown wrote:

qbert68 wrote:that was when I was trying to find out what was going on before it was told who was what. The mod told us that you were not a hider

Yes, but crasp was just revealed exactly what role he was... and then you asked if he was a townie. That was scummy to me, just saying. I have a post I am working on, and I'm not ready to vote as of yet, so let's talk.

I did not look at what crasp was when she died that is why I said what I said

TheCrown wrote:

qbert68 wrote:that was when I was trying to find out what was going on before it was told who was what. The mod told us that you were not a hider

Yes, but crasp was just revealed exactly what role he was... and then you asked if he was a townie. That was scummy to me, just saying. I have a post I am working on, and I'm not ready to vote as of yet, so let's talk.

Still need to re-read from page 38 on, but here's what I am seeing so far.

crasp, confirmed mafia, voted quite a bit when he was alive. I would be inclined to think a few of the people he voted on are not mafia... like:

mithriadaties
killuminati
DB4

This goes against how I have felt about DB4, but I will shelf following these guys for now.

People whom I think are townies:
mtamb
archer3base (I have seen something he posted that caught my eye as scummy, but his play is consistent with a townie)
gabsensei (has not been on my radar since his "no vote" joke)
jusplay


People who I think are on the same team:
Killum and mtamb (mason buddies?)
DB4 and CHECK

so, if we ever find that any of these guys are scum, I believe the other person would be scum too.

People whom I think are somewhat scummy:
CHECK (although he seems to be putting out some townie vibes lately)
qbert (did have a thing against crasp, which helps his case)


This is by no means all-inclusive... I still have some research to do. Like King Ed posting like a mafia super-star on page 32, or referring to a "we", which I didn't understand. Why would he say "we"? Who does he know?

DB4 contradicted himself on pages 12 and 14, and generally looked scummy early on. crasp also seemed to endorse him, which worries me, because he also voted him.

CHECK and DB4 seemed connected earlier, and now they are being more silent toward each other... need to do more research here as well. CHECK was also convinced that Ragot was scum... WRONG!!!

qbert, that is a bad explanation to why you said something that looked scummy. THAT should have been the 1st thing you looked at. Ok, I don't really want to pursue you right now, but you seem to be begging for it. Give me a good reason why you talked during a day without checking to see who died... seems like you were trying to get people all confused, and you hadn't even read the night scene?

qbert68 wrote:Did you here anything while you were kidnapped that could give us an idea of you the mafia is or what they are planning on doing. And why did they let you go.

TheCrown wrote:I had a bag over my head, like I was a Raiders fan or something. I saw nothing and have no idea what my kidnapper(s) wanted.

I went back and read through everything, and will go back again today and re-read the last day. I don't blame you all for voting czar, although I would have gone elsewhere. I will post later after re-reading, but in the meantime, it would be nice if someone had a night action that actually found something out. By the way Sirius wrote his scene, Tuffy DID find something out, but was killed before he could tell us.

I was told very little about my "silent night", just that I was "bagged". Just glad I wasn't "bagged and tagged". It really said nothing about anyone, so I deleted the PM sometime during my silence. I didn't mean to delete it, but I'm sure there was nothing in there that was useful, or I would have wrote it on my paperwork.

I went back to how the voting was done on day one. To me that is the crucial day since crasp (mafia) was killed night one. While it is possible that the mafia would vote on themselves to confuse townies, I don't believe that would have happened on the first day. My logic may be flawed but I'm holding to it. So, I believe the following are NOT mafia, as crasp voted to hang each one
DB4Christ
Killuminati19
Mithridaties
Ragot25 which was lynched and confirmed townie
I add Qbert68 to this list because he is the only person to vote Crasp.

That significantly reduces our potential list of mafia. Let us smoke them out and quickly get a lynch.

Day 3 vote count:


With 15 players in the game it takes 8 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in 14 days

TC made some insightful comments upon his return. WELCOME BACK..!

I am wondering why he would have been kidnapped then released. Why would anyone do that to someone?

Will have to read more later, but I'm seeing King Ed as a vote changer like the wind, and he seems to be mirroring crasp in his behaviour, and we all know what crasp was.

King Ed is probably my top suspect at being mafia now. I can't get over the feeling that Akamiro is staying silent for a reason. Will wait on others to talk.

TC - I also have King Edward high on my list as potential mafia. But, I would have to mark Elsuper Bano as townie to be consistent with my thought process. Of course, my process goes out the window on this round as the beans are out of the bag, so to speak.

Akamiro is unique in that he is the only person to have never voted for anyone. I'm not convinced that makes him anything but 'not really interested'. Could be the same profile as Richard.

TheCrown wrote:Will have to read more later, but I'm seeing King Ed as a vote changer like the wind, and he seems to be mirroring crasp in his behaviour, and we all know what crasp was.

King Ed is probably my top suspect at being mafia now. I can't get over the feeling that Akamiro is staying silent for a reason. Will wait on others to talk.

Read through Pg. 40 & maybe you'll understand like Tuffy did before he was killed

Tuffys response is on pg.46

I do not see anything posted by Tuffy on page 40.

pg.46 is tuffys post

jusplay4fun wrote:TC made some insightful comments upon his return. WELCOME BACK..!

I am wondering why he would have been kidnapped then released. Why would anyone do that to someone?

Not sure but it happened to me one time also. A really cute little green alien chic came down in a flying saucer and took me against my will. I don't remember much, but was pretty sore for a couple days. Then about two years later I got sued for child support, post marked from the planet Zoltar. So in his defense all I can say is "it happens".

By looking at who has successfully voted to lynch 2 towns people so far this is what I find.

day1 Ragot25 - CHECK-M8, TheCrown, Killuminati19, Crasp, mtamburini, TuffyLess, Mithridaties, King Edward 3rd, DB4Christ, Cump
day2 czar richard - King Edward 3rd, CHECK-M8, Gabsensei, TuffyLess, Killuminati19, DB4Christ, archer3base

on page 33 DB said something that has been stuck in my head "SCUM want to lynch by day". 5 people have voted for both towns people that were lynched. Tuffy was one of those and was a cop. I don't know if people were just voting to get inactive people out of the game but all they have done now is help the mafia get rid of 2 people for them. The remaining 4 are suspect but could have been the same boat as Tuffy so I am not sure what to think at this time.

We need to be done lynching people due to inactivity. I understand that newbies are typically not given a mafia role and vets who were given the mafia role are not as likely to be silent. Mafia are talking among us.

I keep coming back to archer, king edward is also a possibility. These two haven't made me feel they are townie's like many of the rest of you. I still have my eye on DB4. He led the charge to lynch czar. I went along with it and regret it, because as the mafia knows, lynching a silent townie means one less townie.

I agree with Kill. Lynching those we think are townies because the do not talk IS NOT GOOD. Some of us are helping Mafia by doing so.

If they (the quite ones) do not vote, NO HARM. IF we lynch quiet townies, we help the Mafia. SIMPLE. PERIOD.

We need to focus on finding out Mafia and not lynching those who say little and we think are NOT MAFIA.

Good analysis, here. THANKS El Super.

Elsuper bano wrote:By looking at who has successfully voted to lynch 2 towns people so far this is what I find.

day1 Ragot25 - CHECK-M8, TheCrown, Killuminati19, Crasp, mtamburini, TuffyLess, Mithridaties, King Edward 3rd, DB4Christ, Cump
day2 czar richard - King Edward 3rd, CHECK-M8, Gabsensei, TuffyLess, Killuminati19, DB4Christ, archer3base

on page 33 DB said something that has been stuck in my head "SCUM want to lynch by day". 5 people have voted for both towns people that were lynched. Tuffy was one of those and was a cop. I don't know if people were just voting to get inactive people out of the game but all they have done now is help the mafia get rid of 2 people for them. The remaining 4 are suspect but could have been the same boat as Tuffy so I am not sure what to think at this time.

So jusplay, let me see if I got this right.... someday if I'm in a mafia game and actually end up scum, I can just be quiet and you'll not worry about me? Sounds good to me!

Scum don't usually want to talk much, because usually they'll end up slipping up on something they said.

Like qbert saying he didn't read who died.... if only he weren't a newbie, I'd be pursuing that!


I'm still re-reading stuff, but am having to arrange clan war games, and work too...

TC is right. People....especially townies need to participate, new or not. Letting people stay in when they do not talk is a dangerous position for us townie's to take. Mafia will slip up if they are pressured and forced to talk much.....but only when their prodded to do so. Silence and voting trends are the best signature of mafia during the day IMO.

I would like to remind everyone that the roles where given at random. I tried to balance out the noobs in the mafia as well as the town, luckily I didn't had to touch a thing after randomly rolling everyone, the teams were perfect. Same goes for power roles.

I am sorry about the inactive ones, they will not get invited to future mafia games. That being said I also hope they do not affect your mafia experience too much that you would not play another game. Lastly I would like to thank every veteran and noobs who try and participate, you guys are the game.