Conquer Club

I'm missing Pagan, Wiccan, and Buddhist on the poll... although technically, Buddhism is a philosophy, not a religion.

Shintuism

I heard he was Rastafarian in his college days.

notyou2 wrote:I heard he was Rastafarian in his college days.

weak

Whole post is LAME

Hey, it got a chuckle from me.

notyou2 wrote:But his pastor allegedly supported black extremists groups. What about that innuendo? Why have the paranoid right wing tards given up on that rumour and started a new one? STOP confusing me fucktards!!!!! Please take a stance and be consistent so the liberal lefties can make a case against your paranoid rumours. It's like fucking dodgeball.

Yeah it's rather interesting. If Obama is not a Christian he obviously wouldn't have paid attention to reverend whatshisface mad ravings.

Snorri1234 wrote:

notyou2 wrote:But his pastor allegedly supported black extremists groups. What about that innuendo? Why have the paranoid right wing tards given up on that rumour and started a new one? STOP confusing me fucktards!!!!! Please take a stance and be consistent so the liberal lefties can make a case against your paranoid rumours. It's like fucking dodgeball.

Yeah it's rather interesting. If Obama is not a Christian he obviously wouldn't have paid attention to reverend whatshisface mad ravings.

That's a good question there. In 2003, Obama said he NEVER missed a service of REv wRights. Thats the problem with liars, the liesget all tangled up and become unmanageable and he can't keep track. In the end, it's just his credibility...

So many bad things were said at his church, so bad, I can not even bring myself to repeat it...

You went there too............???

Phatscotty wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:his religion is sealed too...

No, his observance of Christianity is pretty plain to anybody who pays attention. As to his personnal beliefs, no one one Earth, including you can prove that. We are not a society of mind-readers.

Player, for once you are right. We can not read minds.

But we can observe actions.....in the search for what religion Obama is, here are some observations

It's been 18 months:
1. Obama has picked out a dog, but not a church
2. Obama does not pray in public...he says "he prays alone in Air Force 1"????

Christ instructed us to pray in private, not public.

Phatscotty wrote: 3. He has loudly proclaimed "America is not a Christian country"

It isn't. We are a nation of religious freedom, not a theocracy.

Phatscotty wrote: 4. He kept his Muslim name, even though he quit Islam (very interesting...)

I .. and a lot of other women, kept our maiden names after marriage. Changing documents, particularly after you have a professional reputation is a royal pain.

Phatscotty wrote: 5. He pronounces "Pakistan" 2 different ways, showing that he is trying/not trying to say it how everyone else says it (hiding something)

Oh I see pronoucing a name differently now means he is hiding something? Might be he got different advice on the subject.

Phatscotty wrote: 6. The "Christian" church he did attend for 20 years is a place of Yelling Hatred and giving lifetime achievement awards to louis farakhan

So the right wingers like to say.

Phatscotty wrote: 7. His christianity is so obvious, he says that if he meets Jesus... "I would ask, uh, um, if I was going UP or DOWN" (wtf? lol!!)

uh, um... your point?

Phatscotty wrote: 8. he says "The muslim call to prayer is one of the prettiest sound on earth at sunset"

I see, so the fact that I strongly dislike church organ music means I am not a Christian? By that same logic.....

The guy says he is Christian, why do you insist on claiming he cannot be one. FURTHERMORE, even if he were a Muslim.. who cares? He is president, not our Pastor!

I'm pretty sure you missed the point on all 8 of your points.

Comparing keeping your maiden name after marriage to keeping a Muslim name after converting to Christianity..

EPIC

If he's communist, he's he supposed to be atheist?

nietzsche wrote:If he's communist, he's he supposed to be atheist?

He's one of those opportunist communists... like Stalin!

Even Bill Maher says he thinks Obama is lying, which mind you, is a much more serious charge than saying "IDK"

Bill Maher says Obama is agnostic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP2KBOZrkTs

What next Billy, you gonna want to see Obama's birth certificate?

Phatscotty wrote:Even Bill Maher says he thinks Obama is lying, which mind you, is a much more serious charge than saying "IDK"

Bill Maher says Obama is agnostic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP2KBOZrkTs

What next Billy, you gonna want to see Obama's birth certificate?

Sure, but Bill Maher's a moron. You really want to hook up your boat to that anchor?

BigBallinStalin wrote:

nietzsche wrote:If he's communist, he's he supposed to be atheist?

He's one of those opportunist communists... like Stalin!

Something like that, yes. Although he claims to be a Christian, his actions show otherwise (here's another youtube video of him preaching an ignorant view of the Bible).

Based on his actions and rhetoric, he seems to be a deist or maybe an agnostic. He definitely wouldn't fit into an orthodox religion like Islam or Christianity.

Woodruff wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:Even Bill Maher says he thinks Obama is lying, which mind you, is a much more serious charge than saying "IDK"

Bill Maher says Obama is agnostic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP2KBOZrkTs

What next Billy, you gonna want to see Obama's birth certificate?

Sure, but Bill Maher's a moron. You really want to hook up your boat to that anchor?

No, but he's one of the loudest voices ripping on people who think Obama is a Muslim. The point is now he has something in common with the same people he teases. They all think he's lying about being a Christian.

Bill thinks Obama is a politician..
That's a little bit different than thinking he's not a christian because he's a muslim.

lol @ "muslim"

pimpdave wrote:lol @ "muslim"

Yeah, me too. I just can't figure out how a dude with a Muslim name gets mistaken for a Muslim. It's a total quandary.

Fischer08 wrote:

pimpdave wrote:lol @ "muslim"

Yeah, me too. I just can't figure out how a dude with a Muslim name gets mistaken for a Muslim. It's a total quandary.

So does that mean everyone in Mexico named Jesus is from the Middle East?

Woodruff wrote:

Fischer08 wrote:

pimpdave wrote:lol @ "muslim"

Yeah, me too. I just can't figure out how a dude with a Muslim name gets mistaken for a Muslim. It's a total quandary.

So does that mean everyone in Mexico named Jesus is from the Middle East?

Is Mexico a religion?

Ray Rider wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:

nietzsche wrote:If he's communist, he's he supposed to be atheist?

He's one of those opportunist communists... like Stalin!

Something like that, yes. Although he claims to be a Christian, his actions show otherwise (here's another youtube video of him preaching an ignorant view of the Bible).

Based on his actions and rhetoric, he seems to be a deist or maybe an agnostic. He definitely wouldn't fit into an orthodox religion like Islam or Christianity.

That's the problem with the bible. Any idiot that claims to be a christian is at liberty to interpret the bible anyway he wants, and use it to hurt others all in the name of christianity. Thanks for pointing this out Ray.

notyou2 wrote:

Ray Rider wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:

nietzsche wrote:If he's communist, he's he supposed to be atheist?

He's one of those opportunist communists... like Stalin!

Something like that, yes. Although he claims to be a Christian, his actions show otherwise (here's another youtube video of him preaching an ignorant view of the Bible).

Based on his actions and rhetoric, he seems to be a deist or maybe an agnostic. He definitely wouldn't fit into an orthodox religion like Islam or Christianity.

That's the problem with the bible. Any idiot that claims to be a christian is at liberty to interpret the bible anyway he wants, and use it to hurt others all in the name of christianity. Thanks for pointing this out Ray.

Actually, that is what can happen to any document or belief system, and it simply demonstrates that man is a free moral agent (and that there exists within man an innate sin nature). Any person can twist anything the way they want; but that doesn't in itself, prove or disprove the original document or Founder (you would have to research the original document or founder if you wanted to do that). However you can, to a certain extent, tell if someone actually believes what he says he believes based on his words and actions; after all, "by their fruits you shall know them."

"You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will know them by their fruits. Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter." --Jesus in Matthew 7:16-21

Phatscotty wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Fischer08 wrote:

pimpdave wrote:lol @ "muslim"

Yeah, me too. I just can't figure out how a dude with a Muslim name gets mistaken for a Muslim. It's a total quandary.

So does that mean everyone in Mexico named Jesus is from the Middle East?

Is Mexico a religion?

Do you try as hard as you can to avoid every point because you know that you have no valid response to it, or does it just seem to happen naturally?