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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:14 am
by Aradhus
Wasn't Hitler described as an average soldier during WW1? Not really officer material.
I like Rommel and Zhukov.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:20 am
by Ruben Cassar
sfhbballnut wrote:Its interesting that no one's mentioned Hitler as far as I can see, he was againone of those statesmen/ generals, but the stuff he did is pretty great(in magitude), terrible, but great
Hitler was not a general. In fact his stupid mistakes and wrong tactical decisions when he interfered with his generals who knew what they were doing probably cost Germany the war. Whenever he decided to try to give military orders it was always a disaster.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:49 am
by Dariune
Im a little sad to see King Harald Godwinson has not been mentioned.
Quick Marching from the battle with the Vikings (which he won) all the way across england to face the Normans. Admittedly he lost but to be a great general you dont have to win. You just have to be great.
And you cant help being shot by an arrow.
I also would like to mention the Shaolin. They werent generals and i cant name any individuals but to convert a form of Yoga into a defensive and deadly fighting style to fend off would be conquering tribes is an impressive feat in itself. To then go on to help win the Shogun wars in Japan is amazing.
Its not their fault the winning clan (i forget who it was currently) had them massacred afterwards.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:20 am
by hourman
war_bloodline wrote:hourman wrote:Here are all the military leaders i think are the best:
Gen. Lewis B. “Chesty” Puller
Gen. John A. Lejeune
Alexander “The Great”
Genghis Khan
Cpl Rodger W. Young
GySgt Dan Dailey
Vo Nguyen Giap
Gen. William "Billy" Mitchell
Adm. John Paul Jones (he had guts to head over to England).
Col. David Hackworth
Sir Arthur Wellesley (aka the Duke of Wellington)
Col Francis Marion
Gen. Curtis E. LeMay
Gen. James H. Doolittle (he had guts to bomb Tokyo)
Gen. Evans F. Carlson
Gen. Merritt "Red Mike" Edson
Gen. Smedley D. "Old Gimlet Eye" Butler
Col. (Brevet B.G.) Archibald Henderson*
George Washington(great man)
Alfred A. Cunningham (Remember it only my opinion)
Ataila the Hun
El Cid Campeador
General H Norman Schwarzkopf
General Patton ("never dig in, always be on the move")
General Eisenhower
Admiral Chester Nimitz
Admiral William "Bull" Halsey
General William T. Sherman
Rommel
Ceasar
Alexander
Hannibal (he worked off of fear that he gave to Romans).
King Leonidas of sparta
Gen. Douglas MaCarthur (so so in my mind, but ok).
Gen Curt Lemay
Gen Hap Arnold
Gen Stonewall Jackson
thast all of teh top of my head
Now can you rate which is the best, who are the top five on your list?
(I highlighed the one I agree with).
Its hard to say witch ones i think are best.
but teh ones i "LIKE" the best are
1. patton (beacause hes patton)
2. Nimitz (for the midway victory)
3. I forgot to put him on the list but Saladin (because he kicked ass)
4. Doolittle (for his doolittle raid over tokyo)
5. probaly lee.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:40 am
by jonnybgood
If Hitler cost Germany ww1, then why was he the German chancellor for ww2. Did he blackmail them?
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:54 am
by Ruben Cassar
jonnybgood wrote:If Hitler cost Germany ww1, then why was he the German chancellor for ww2. Did he blackmail them?
OMG. I was speaking about WWII. Hitler was just a soldier in WWI.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:11 am
by jonnybgood
ohhhhhhhhh.... nvm
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:15 am
by hourman
Hitler was a ok "military leader" but his decions did cost them the war.
I think he should of let rommel take over the whole military side of the war. Europe might be different today.
Re: Top 5 Generals in the world. (Past of Present)
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:24 pm
by luns101
war_bloodline wrote:Lay them out, who are the best 5 generals.
If you want to, lay down who you think are the worst 5 generals. This is your opinion.
1. Alexander the Great
2. Napoleon Bonaparte
3. George Patton
4. Oliver Cromwell
5. George Washington
hourman wrote:oliver cromwell? come on.
I took the first post literally. Guess I was wrong.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:16 am
by Huguenots
1.me
2.me
3.me
4.me
5.and me
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:33 am
by war_bloodline
OK, I want to see you play Blitzaholic then Huguenots, as you know he is CC's leading General.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:50 am
by Aradhus
How many games has he played?
Does anyone else think Patton is overrated?
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:32 am
by Neutrino
In no particular order...
hourman wrote:El Cid Campeador
El Cid de Campadeor: (I think)
I was going to mention him, but you seem to have beaten me too it!
Great general, and an even better corpse!
Genghis Khan + Atilla the Hun:
Its always good to see someone from some tiny asian country invading Europe!
William the Conquerer: Did well for himself, (though im sure his men were nervous about those leaky boats) even though his reasons were fairly specious. At least he managed to do what King Harald Godwinson failed at.
Saladin: No explanation necessary.
Random fact: The US has never lost a war in which mules were used. (the secret to their power is revealed!)
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:39 am
by RenegadePaddy
Godwinson is heavily underrated - if the shieldwall hadn't broken to chase Normans (wether through indiscipline or a cunning ruse will always be a debate), then he'd probably have been the second English King to be known as the Great - after all, marching the length of the country, defeating an army, then marching the length of your country again, having the bulk of your forces go home (the fyrd commitment time of 30 days was up), fight again whilst exhausted, and still almost clinch it - its no small achievement, and was oh so nearly a great one.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:44 am
by Dariune
RenegadePaddy wrote:Godwinson is heavily underrated - if the shieldwall hadn't broken to chase Normans (wether through indiscipline or a cunning ruse will always be a debate), then he'd probably have been the second English King to be known as the Great - after all, marching the length of the country, defeating an army, then marching the length of your country again, having the bulk of your forces go home (the fyrd commitment time of 30 days was up), fight again whilst exhausted, and still almost clinch it - its no small achievement, and was oh so nearly a great one.
Well said that man.
Im agree
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:22 am
by heavycola
hourman wrote:Here are all the military leaders i think are the best:
Gen. Lewis B. “Chesty” Puller
Gen. John A. Lejeune
Alexander “The Great”
Genghis Khan
Cpl Rodger W. Young
GySgt Dan Dailey
Vo Nguyen Giap
Gen. William "Billy" Mitchell
Adm. John Paul Jones
Col. David Hackworth
Sir Arthur Wellesley (aka the Duke of Wellington)
Col Francis Marion
Gen. Curtis E. LeMay
Gen. James H. Doolittle
Gen. Evans F. Carlson
Gen. Merritt "Red Mike" Edson
Gen. Smedley D. "Old Gimlet Eye" Butler
Col. (Brevet B.G.) Archibald Henderson*
George Washington(great man)
Alfred A. Cunningham (Remember it only my opinion)
Ataila the Hun
El Cid Campeador
General H Norman Schwarzkopf
General Patton
General Eisenhower
Admiral Chester Nimitz
Admiral William "Bull" Halsey
General William T. Sherman
Rommel
Ceasar
Alexander
Hannibal
King Leonidas of sparta
Gen. Douglas MaCarthur
Gen Curt Lemay
Gen Hap Arnold
Gen Stonewall Jackson
thast all of teh top of my head
I would kick all their overrated arses on Middle Earth with flat rate cards and chained fortifications. Pussies.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:33 am
by RenegadePaddy
hourman wrote:Gen. Lewis B. “Chesty” Puller
Gen. John A. Lejeune
Alexander “The Great”
Genghis Khan
Cpl Rodger W. Young
GySgt Dan Dailey
Vo Nguyen Giap
Gen. William "Billy" Mitchell
Adm. John Paul Jones
Col. David Hackworth
Sir Arthur Wellesley (aka the Duke of Wellington)
Col Francis Marion
Gen. Curtis E. LeMay
Gen. James H. Doolittle
Gen. Evans F. Carlson
Gen. Merritt "Red Mike" Edson
Gen. Smedley D. "Old Gimlet Eye" Butler
Col. (Brevet B.G.) Archibald Henderson*
George Washington(great man)
Alfred A. Cunningham (Remember it only my opinion)
Ataila the Hun
El Cid Campeador
General H Norman Schwarzkopf
General Patton
General Eisenhower
Admiral Chester Nimitz
Admiral William "Bull" Halsey
General William T. Sherman
Rommel
Ceasar
Alexander
Hannibal
King Leonidas of sparta
Gen. Douglas MaCarthur
Gen Curt Lemay
Gen Hap Arnold
Gen Stonewall Jackson
Alexander “The Great”
Genghis Khan
Sir Arthur Wellesley (aka the Duke of Wellington)
El Cid Campeador
Rommel
Ceasar
Hannibal
These are good calls
Alexander
You already put him (unless you men someone else?)
Cpl Rodger W. Young
Er, no. Brave, yes, heroic, quite probably, but great leader (as you've skipped the general part, but thats no beef)? No.
King Leonidas of sparta
Well said, can't believe he's been forgotten until now (by myslef to I'm ashamed to admit)
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:20 am
by flashleg8
Neutrino wrote:
Random fact: The US has never lost a war in which mules were used. (the secret to their power is revealed!)
Random fact: The US have never fought a war with a county with a McDonalds restaurant. (the secret to their foreign policy is revealed!)
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:21 am
by Anarkistsdream
flashleg8 wrote:Neutrino wrote:
Random fact: The US has never lost a war in which mules were used. (the secret to their power is revealed!)
Random fact: The US have never fought a war with a county with a McDonalds restaurant. (the secret to their foreign policy is revealed!)
We usually don't fight counties at all, flash...
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:00 pm
by flashleg8
Anarkistsdream wrote:flashleg8 wrote:Neutrino wrote:
Random fact: The US has never lost a war in which mules were used. (the secret to their power is revealed!)
Random fact: The US have never fought a war with a county with a McDonalds restaurant. (the secret to their foreign policy is revealed!)
We usually don't fight counties at all, flash...
the limitations of spell checking revealed!
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:44 pm
by Warrior987
hourman wrote:Here are all the military leaders i think are the best:
Gen. Lewis B. “Chesty” Puller
Gen. John A. Lejeune
Alexander “The Great”
Genghis Khan
Cpl Rodger W. Young
GySgt Dan Dailey
Vo Nguyen Giap
Gen. William "Billy" Mitchell
Adm. John Paul Jones
Col. David Hackworth
Sir Arthur Wellesley (aka the Duke of Wellington)
Col Francis Marion
Gen. Curtis E. LeMay
Gen. James H. Doolittle
Gen. Evans F. Carlson
Gen. Merritt "Red Mike" Edson
Gen. Smedley D. "Old Gimlet Eye" Butler
Col. (Brevet B.G.) Archibald Henderson*
George Washington(great man)
Alfred A. Cunningham (Remember it only my opinion)
Ataila the Hun
El Cid Campeador
General H Norman Schwarzkopf
General Patton
General Eisenhower
Admiral Chester Nimitz
Admiral William "Bull" Halsey
General William T. Sherman
Rommel
Ceasar
Alexander
Hannibal
King Leonidas of sparta
Gen. Douglas MaCarthur
Gen Curt Lemay
Gen Hap Arnold
Gen Stonewall Jackson
thast all of teh top of my head
I know this guy and I am telling you hge doesnt know more then five of these generals. He just found a list and pasted it!
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:30 pm
by unriggable
flashleg8 wrote:Anarkistsdream wrote:flashleg8 wrote:Neutrino wrote:
Random fact: The US has never lost a war in which mules were used. (the secret to their power is revealed!)
Random fact: The US have never fought a war with a county with a McDonalds restaurant. (the secret to their foreign policy is revealed!)
We usually don't fight counties at all, flash...
the limitations of spell checking revealed!
Genius
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:19 pm
by albend
yeah that basturd pasted it he doesnt know any of them i know most but not all poser bitch, i ought to "he bitch man slap him". he is a monkey ass bitch
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:20 pm
by albend
just kidding, but he does nt know any of them
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:55 pm
by Sammy gags
How can you put Eisenhower in but not Rommel HG?