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Re: Russia started hitting ISIS and its a gamechanger
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:26 pm
by subtleknifewield
Selflessly, don't make me laugh.
No country as a whole does anything selflessly.
Re: Russia started hitting ISIS and its a gamechanger
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:09 pm
by DoomYoshi
betiko wrote:Doom, your signature supposedly quoting me is some very aproximative spanish... Google translate spanish.
Regarding this issue: i don t fucking care who does it, but we need to get rid of isis. It isn t as simple as bombing them though, things are a bit more subtile than this.
It's a random phrase generator.
Re: Russia started hitting ISIS and its a gamechanger
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:02 am
by muy_thaiguy
Not random enough.
Re: Russia started hitting ISIS and its a gamechanger
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:28 am
by jimboston
I love (sic) the use of the phrase "deserved it" in this conversation(?).
You realize that the result of all these aggressive actions is human death, right?
Some wars are necessary, but the vast majority of the people who suffer from war had nothing to do with initiating it and/or certainly didn't deserve it.
As for all these "land grabs". You can always find that the people (or ancestors of the people) currently occupying a piece of land "grabbed it" from some other people. The only questions are how far back was that grabbing done, and who is doing the grabbing now?
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:53 pm
by a6mzero
The US supplied Russia with over 1/2 million wheeled and tactical vehicles during the war (not counting tanks) without which the soviet offenses would have been very limited in nature since their troop transports were horse drawn. Without the US the Germans would still be holding defensive positions in Minsk today.
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:55 pm
by 2dimes
a6mzero wrote:The US supplied Russia with over 1/2 million wheeled and tactical vehicles during the war (not counting tanks) without which the soviet offenses would have been very limited in nature since their troop transports were horse drawn. Without the US the Germans would still be holding defensive positions in Minsk today.
Someone get the Kremlin on the red phone.
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:00 pm
by saxitoxin
a6mzero wrote:The US supplied Russia with over 1/2 million wheeled and tactical vehicles during the war
Got it. So, the U.S. gave the USSR 1 truck for every 50 Soviet citizens killed protecting the world from Nazism.
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:58 pm
by a6mzero
U should move to Russia and get a joint Russian and Syrian citizenship. As long as u don't disagree with Putin or Assad they will not have u jailed or murdered.
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:09 pm
by saxitoxin
saxitoxin wrote:a6mzero wrote:The US supplied Russia with over 1/2 million wheeled and tactical vehicles during the war
Got it. So, the U.S. gave the USSR 1 truck for every 50 Soviet citizens killed protecting the world from Nazism.
a6mzero wrote:U should move to Russia and get a joint Russian and Syrian citizenship. As long as u don't disagree with Putin or Assad they will not have u jailed or murdered.
So, to recap this exchange ...
Saxi wrote:
Zero wrote:
(firing chaff)
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:56 pm
by a6mzero
Russia which supplied 75% of the oil and rubber used by Hitler to overrun western Europe was the worlds savoir from the Nazis. Russia which overrun eastern Poland and the Baltic states in a deal with Hitler to divide the spoils was the worlds savior from the Nazis. If Hitler in his misguided folly of opening a two front war had focused on finishing off the English we would all either be in concentration games or the gulag. U sure as hell wouldn't be on a computer spouting your hateful raciest views of the world.
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:05 am
by saxitoxin
a6mzero wrote:Russia which overrun eastern Poland and the Baltic states in a deal with Hitler to divide the spoils was the worlds savior from the Nazis.
We
debunked that just a few posts ago. You're so brainwashed you've already forgot?
a6mzero wrote:If Hitler in his misguided folly of opening a two front war had focused on finishing off the English we would all either be in concentration games or the gulag. U sure as hell wouldn't be on a computer spouting your hateful raciest views of the world.
LOL, you want to round-up and murder all Palestinians, or anyone else who disagrees with your apartheid ethno-religious state founded on a
UN-declared racist ideology and
denounced by Nelson Mandela, and
I'm "racist?" You must not be getting enough air through the white hood, Cletus.
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:07 am
by subtleknifewield
saxitoxin wrote:a6mzero wrote:The US supplied Russia with over 1/2 million wheeled and tactical vehicles during the war
Got it. So, the U.S. gave the USSR 1 truck for every 50 Soviet citizens killed protecting the world from Nazism.
You are seriously underestimating the importance of vehicles in combat. Are you really so blind?
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:09 am
by subtleknifewield
saxitoxin wrote:a6mzero wrote:Russia which overrun eastern Poland and the Baltic states in a deal with Hitler to divide the spoils was the worlds savior from the Nazis.
We
debunked that just a few posts ago. You're so brainwashed you've already forgot?
a6mzero wrote:If Hitler in his misguided folly of opening a two front war had focused on finishing off the English we would all either be in concentration games or the gulag. U sure as hell wouldn't be on a computer spouting your hateful raciest views of the world.
LOL, you want to round-up and murder all Palestinians, or anyone else who disagrees with your apartheid ethno-religious state founded on a
UN-declared racist ideology and
denounced by Nelson Mandela, and
I'm "racist?" You must not be getting enough air through the white hood, Cletus. Go back to listening to FOX News tell you all about the horrible Arabs or something.
I'm sorry, what did we debunk exactly?
Who were the aggressors in the Winter War again? You seem to be conveniently ignoring the fact that the USSR was as aggressively expansionist as the US ever was here...they attacked Finland long before Finland ever sought German help.
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:13 am
by saxitoxin
subtleknifewield wrote:saxitoxin wrote:a6mzero wrote:The US supplied Russia with over 1/2 million wheeled and tactical vehicles during the war
Got it. So, the U.S. gave the USSR 1 truck for every 50 Soviet citizens killed protecting the world from Nazism.
You are seriously underestimating the importance of vehicles in combat. Are you really so blind?
You seriously think all these people's lives
... is an equal trade-off for one of these?
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:13 am
by saxitoxin
subtleknifewield wrote:
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:31 am
by subtleknifewield
Lol, more nonsense, as usual, I see, comparing tanks and APC's to pickup trucks, and then responding with amusing pics when you can't find a reasonable argument--especially considering I never said a positive word about America in that post.
However you seem to think Russia can do no wrong.
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:42 am
by saxitoxin
subtleknifewield wrote:Lol, more nonsense, as usual, I see, comparing tanks and APC's to pickup trucks, and then responding with amusing pics
The idea that 50 human lives is worth one inanimate object of any kind is so ridiculous it doesn't merit a serious response.
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:46 am
by subtleknifewield
saxitoxin wrote:subtleknifewield wrote:Lol, more nonsense, as usual, I see, comparing tanks and APC's to pickup trucks, and then responding with amusing pics
The idea that 50 human lives is worth one inanimate object of any kind is so ridiculous it doesn't merit a serious response. So sorry.
Right, sure, of course. I'll remember that the next time those fifty men charge a tank. Who do you think will win?
Of course human lives are worth more than inanimate objects, but you kinda need those inanimate objects to make their sacrifice actually ACCOMPLISH something.
And nice dodge on the rest of my points there :V
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:48 am
by saxitoxin
subtleknifewield wrote:saxitoxin wrote:subtleknifewield wrote:Lol, more nonsense, as usual, I see, comparing tanks and APC's to pickup trucks, and then responding with amusing pics
The idea that 50 human lives is worth one inanimate object of any kind is so ridiculous it doesn't merit a serious response. So sorry.
Right, sure, of course. I'll remember that the next time those fifty men charge a tank. Who do you think will win?
The more you try digging in with this the loonier you sound. Do keep going ...
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:57 am
by subtleknifewield
saxitoxin wrote:subtleknifewield wrote:saxitoxin wrote:subtleknifewield wrote:Lol, more nonsense, as usual, I see, comparing tanks and APC's to pickup trucks, and then responding with amusing pics
The idea that 50 human lives is worth one inanimate object of any kind is so ridiculous it doesn't merit a serious response. So sorry.
Right, sure, of course. I'll remember that the next time those fifty men charge a tank. Who do you think will win?
The more you try digging in with this the loonier you sound. Do keep going ...
I think you don't even realize that your words apply more to yourself, than me.
I suppose you think the battle of Stalingrad could have been won without guns, knives or any other 'inanimate objects' classified as weapons, too, that the Russian men and women are somehow just that good at fighting.
Also have a question for you. If Russia is somehow a saint, how do you explain the
Gulags?
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:04 am
by saxitoxin
subtleknifewield wrote:saxitoxin wrote:subtleknifewield wrote:saxitoxin wrote:subtleknifewield wrote:Lol, more nonsense, as usual, I see, comparing tanks and APC's to pickup trucks, and then responding with amusing pics
The idea that 50 human lives is worth one inanimate object of any kind is so ridiculous it doesn't merit a serious response. So sorry.
Right, sure, of course. I'll remember that the next time those fifty men charge a tank. Who do you think will win?
The more you try digging in with this the loonier you sound. Do keep going ...
I think you don't even realize that your words apply more to yourself, than me.
I suppose you think the battle of Stalingrad could have been won without guns, knives or any other 'inanimate objects' classified as weapons, too, that the Russian men and women are somehow just that good at fighting?
50 humans lives ≠ a truck
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:10 am
by subtleknifewield
You're starting to sound like a broken record, cause you already said that, and I THOUGHT we had moved on. Apparently you are stuck on that point and refuse to acknowledge anything else I am saying.
Especially the fact that I actually ACKNOWLEDGED that human life is inherently more valuable than any inanimate thing. You know, you could try actually reading what you are trying to counter, once in a while.
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:12 am
by a6mzero
As I stated earlier without the 1/2 million trucks and halftrucks the jerries would still be in Minsk. I've forgotten more about the war on the eastern front than u will ever know Saxi. Stick to something u know about like Zionest conspiracy theories.
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:45 am
by waauw
a6mzero wrote:The US supplied Russia with over 1/2 million wheeled and tactical vehicles during the war (not counting tanks) without which the soviet offenses would have been very limited in nature since their troop transports were horse drawn. Without the US the Germans would still be holding defensive positions in Minsk today.
I hardly think so. The Germans would've been able to push further into Russia, but would still have lost the war. Any german breakthrough would've just forced the russians into more ruthless guerilla tactics and burned more of their own cities and fields as they had done during the napoleonic wars. The germans lost because Russia is simply too large and too inhospitable for a foreign power to conquer.
Re: Russia started airstrikes in Syria, and it's a game chan
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:50 am
by subtleknifewield
waauw wrote:a6mzero wrote:The US supplied Russia with over 1/2 million wheeled and tactical vehicles during the war (not counting tanks) without which the soviet offenses would have been very limited in nature since their troop transports were horse drawn. Without the US the Germans would still be holding defensive positions in Minsk today.
I hardly think so. The Germans would've been able to push further into Russia, but would still have lost the war. If that were to have happened the Russians would've just used ruthless guerilla tactics and burned more of their own cities and fields as they had done during the napoleonic wars. The germans lost because Russia is simply too large and too inhospitable for a foreign power to conquer.
It is true the Germans were ill-equipped for a truly winter war, but Stalingrad was a critical city for the Russian supply lines and being a center of industry. Without that supplied equipment, the Germans might have been able to push through and capture it despite the stalwart defense of its citizens, and have a place to retreat to and hole up for the rest of the winter once they realized that for themselves.
It is true Russia is simply too big for any foreign power to conquer completely, but they could easily have lost a lot of land, like they did in World War 1.
