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Johnnyrockets24 farming [cleared]
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:32 am
by KraphtOne
Accused:
Johnnyrockets24
The accused are suspected of:
Other:farming low ranked players
Game number(s):
Over 6500 games where he joined a casual 1 vs 1 game (mostly freestyle) against a low ranked player in order to have a major advantage and get easy wins...
This is only a small portion of the games that he was farming, you can look them up yourself, just go to game finder and put in 2 players and johnnyrocket24's name...
He's also done it several hundred times in doubles games as well...
I think there's a rule about systematically targeting players in order to gain an advantage...
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:15 am
by JOHNNYROCKET24
2007...good luck with this
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:29 am
by alster
KraphtOne wrote:Accused:
Johnnyrockets24
The accused are suspected of:
Other:farming low ranked players
Comments:
Over 6500 games where he joined a casual 1 vs 1 game (mostly freestyle) against a low ranked player in order to have a major advantage and get easy wins...
This is only a small portion of the games that he was farming, you can look them up yourself, just go to game finder and put in 2 players and johnnyrocket24's name...
He's also done it several hundred times in doubles games as well...
I think there's a rule about systematically targeting players in order to gain an advantage...
The anti-farming rule applies solely to ?s (and not low ranks in general). Consequently, in order to make an adequate C&A accusation in this respect, it would seem prudent to provide statistics concerning the number of games joined against players who were ?s at the time the game was joined. This statistics would also have to be put in relation to – during a given period of time (subsequent the point of time the anti-farming rule became effective) – the total number of games joined (potentially the total number of 1v1 games joined). As it is now, your post really says nothing.
As a general note, being aware of JRs zero-tolerance against joining dub games containing a ?, it seems unlikely that you would be able to give up any sizeable number of 1v1 games joined against a ?.
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:40 am
by KraphtOne
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:41 am
by KraphtOne
alstergren wrote:KraphtOne wrote:Accused:
Johnnyrockets24
The accused are suspected of:
Other:farming low ranked players
Comments:
Over 6500 games where he joined a casual 1 vs 1 game (mostly freestyle) against a low ranked player in order to have a major advantage and get easy wins...
This is only a small portion of the games that he was farming, you can look them up yourself, just go to game finder and put in 2 players and johnnyrocket24's name...
He's also done it several hundred times in doubles games as well...
I think there's a rule about systematically targeting players in order to gain an advantage...
The anti-farming rule applies solely to ?s (and not low ranks in general). Consequently, in order to make an adequate C&A accusation in this respect, it would seem prudent to provide statistics concerning the number of games joined against players who were ?s at the time the game was joined. This statistics would also have to be put in relation to – during a given period of time (subsequent the point of time the anti-farming rule became effective) – the total number of games joined (potentially the total number of 1v1 games joined). As it is now, your post really says nothing.
As a general note, being aware of JRs zero-tolerance against joining dub games containing a ?, it seems unlikely that you would be able to give up any sizeable number of 1v1 games joined against a ?.
targeting bad players isnt farming? i'd think anyone with common sense would say it is
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:44 am
by JOHNNYROCKET24
I randomly clicked on this game
Game 5527119
my opponent has a a score of 1461 and has played 2,100 games. How in the world is that a new recruit ?
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:48 am
by JOHNNYROCKET24
[quote="KraphtOne"]sorry i thought it was implied that i was starting from the very beginning... here are a handful of the more recent ones... don't see the point in posting all 6000 farm games
you dont seem to know much do you ?
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:50 am
by AAFitz
I clicked on 5 of those game randomly, didnt fine one new recruit
farming is limited to new recruits. Not new players.
That was decided in the thread I made months ago with demonfork...which since you posted from its sister retaliatory thread, most likely read.
the farming rule was also established in jan 1 2009.
Many countless players farmed before that, and it was technically legal, or more precisely, not specifically illegal.
Its the ones that are still doing it like you that are breaking the rules.
Bogus retaliatory cheating threads are also against the rules.
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:57 am
by lord voldemort
I clicked through about half and Im yet to find any new recruits at all.
Krapt this is a childish way of dealing with your case against you. You and Johnny need to hug it out I think.
It is well known that johnny just joins 100s of open public games regardless of rank/game type.
Cleared unless you can provide some actual evidence of farming new recruits
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:59 am
by KraphtOne
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I randomly clicked on this game
Game 5527119
my opponent has a a score of 1461 and has played 2,100 games. How in the world is that a new recruit ?
he has played 250 games since this one and most were games he joined with low ranked players, i'd say his rank has changed since then
Re: Johnnyrockets24 farming [cleared]
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:01 am
by JOHNNYROCKET24
wow ! another new CC record for me. Player to be cleared the fastest !
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:01 am
by AAFitz
KraphtOne wrote:JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I randomly clicked on this game
Game 5527119
my opponent has a a score of 1461 and has played 2,100 games. How in the world is that a new recruit ?
he has played 250 games since this one and most were games he joined with low ranked players, i'd say his rank has changed since then
All you have to do to see if he was a new recruit is see how many games he had finished by the date JR joined. No doubt his rank has changed, but it didnt change from new recruit.
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:05 am
by KraphtOne
lord voldemort wrote:I clicked through about half and Im yet to find any new recruits at all.
Krapt this is a childish way of dealing with your case against you. You and Johnny need to hug it out I think.
It is well known that johnny just joins 100s of open public games regardless of rank/game type.
Cleared unless you can provide some actual evidence of farming new recruits
lol... ok explain to me how targeting bad players isnt farming?
Johnnyrocket24 stats for 1vs1 games
+829 5169 from 6764(76%) 3413 (119) Tyrant (76%)1211 Point Hoarder (0.560)
Re: Johnnyrockets24 farming [cleared]
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:08 am
by lord voldemort
What is it
"Farming" New Recruits is where a user or group of users deliberately target New Recruits and encourage them to join their games so they may easily win and reap the New Recruit's points. This creates a rather unwelcoming atmosphere for New Recruits who are attempting to join the Community and are essentially being undercut by greedy individuals. Targeting may be done via PM's, often coming out of the blue, via Wall postings, via Game Chats, Live Chats, and Forum posts.
Targeting may also occur by specifically being the last one to join games filled with New Recruits.
Key words are new recruits.
Re: Johnnyrockets24 farming [cleared]
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:09 am
by KraphtOne
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:wow ! another new CC record for me. Player to be cleared the fastest !
that's because you're the man johnny... your boy jumped in and cleared you without batting an eye...
and i get scolded for even questioning that this is a messed up way of inflating your stats...
it is apparently ok to target bad players but not ok to open games and have new recruits join them... quite silly
seems more like it's ok to do whatever as long as you don't piss off the mods or make implications about one of their buddies...
and i see your new post valdemort... and you're saying that there is absolutely nothing wrong with targeting bad players to gain stats?
Re: Johnnyrockets24 farming [cleared]
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:13 am
by lord voldemort
KraphtOne wrote:JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:wow ! another new CC record for me. Player to be cleared the fastest !
that's because you're the man johnny... your boy jumped in and cleared you without batting an eye...
and i get scolded for even questioning that this is a messed up way of inflating your stats...
it is apparently ok to target bad players but not ok to open games and have new recruits join them... quite silly
seems more like it's ok to do whatever as long as you don't piss off the mods or make implications about one of their buddies...
and i see your new post valdemort... and you're saying that there is absolutely nothing wrong with targeting bad players to gain stats?
I dont even really like johnny
If you have a problem with my decision you can hit it up with admin (King A)
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:14 am
by AAFitz
KraphtOne wrote:lord voldemort wrote:I clicked through about half and Im yet to find any new recruits at all.
Krapt this is a childish way of dealing with your case against you. You and Johnny need to hug it out I think.
It is well known that johnny just joins 100s of open public games regardless of rank/game type.
Cleared unless you can provide some actual evidence of farming new recruits
lol... ok explain to me how targeting bad players isnt farming?
Johnnyrocket24 stats for 1vs1 games
+829 5169 from 6764(76%) 3413 (119) Tyrant (76%)1211 Point Hoarder (0.560)
Actually it very much is farming, but as mentioned many times now. Illicit Farming is the systematic farming of
new recruits. Also, it was not expressly illegal until the first of this year.
I believe it was me that initiated the precedent and clear explanation with the demonfork thread, months ago.
KraphtOne wrote:JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I randomly clicked on this game
Game 5527119
my opponent has a a score of 1461 and has played 2,100 games. How in the world is that a new recruit ?
he has played 250 games since this one and most were games he joined with low ranked players, i'd say his rank has changed since then
when JR played that he pointed out he had played as many as 15 pages of games already finished also.
2008-04-28 13:28:53 - Game has been initialized
2008-05-09 21:31:00 - damsbaug lost 16 points
2009-09-02 11:48:29 - Game has been initialized
2009-09-03 10:01:21 - damsbaug eliminated JOHNNYROCKET24 from the game
AND, He lost
Notice the numbers of his first four games of this player. Now find the one you accused JR of farming him on. Its over
2.5 million games away from the one you posted he was farming in....and hundreds of games of experience
A new recruit is a player with a ? If you look at your cheating thread, you will see every game listed has at least one of those, and often only has those.
Game 2329242
Game 2329169
Game 2329163
Game 2312338
You have actually single handedly proven that JR is not guilty of illegal farming, and this is perhaps the best proof of all of them. 
Re: Johnnyrockets24 farming [cleared]
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:16 am
by JOHNNYROCKET24
lord voldemort wrote:KraphtOne wrote:JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:wow ! another new CC record for me. Player to be cleared the fastest !
that's because you're the man johnny... your boy jumped in and cleared you without batting an eye...
and i get scolded for even questioning that this is a messed up way of inflating your stats...
it is apparently ok to target bad players but not ok to open games and have new recruits join them... quite silly
seems more like it's ok to do whatever as long as you don't piss off the mods or make implications about one of their buddies...
and i see your new post valdemort... and you're saying that there is absolutely nothing wrong with targeting bad players to gain stats?
I dont even really like johnny
If you have a problem with my decision you can hit it up with admin (King A)
dont lie. I farm off you all the time.
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:19 am
by alster
KraphtOne wrote:
[...]
and here is a handful of the team game farming that you do...
[...]
Yes. We farm. Problem is, due to the fact that farming is a subjective notion, it is hard for us not to. We farm everything from chefs to generals, noobs and thota people. What can we say, guilty as charged. But we don’t violate the official anti-farming rule…
Re: Johnnyrockets24 farming [cleared]
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:02 pm
by jefjef
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:wow ! another new CC record for me. Player to be cleared the fastest !
WRONG. I was cleared in 7 minutes.
Re: Johnnyrockets24 farming [cleared]
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:05 pm
by ETROPAL
jefjef wrote:JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:wow ! another new CC record for me. Player to be cleared the fastest !
WRONG. I was cleared in 7 minutes.
6 min 32 sec
Re: Johnnyrockets24 farming [cleared]
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:21 pm
by jammyjames
ETROPAL wrote:jefjef wrote:JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:wow ! another new CC record for me. Player to be cleared the fastest !
WRONG. I was cleared in 7 minutes.
6 min 32 sec
etropal it doesnt count if you have been busted on multiple occassions, you will have no victory...
Re: Johnnyrockets24 farming [cleared]
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:00 pm
by jefjef
jammyjames wrote:ETROPAL wrote:jefjef wrote:JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:wow ! another new CC record for me. Player to be cleared the fastest !
WRONG. I was cleared in 7 minutes.
6 min 32 sec
etropal it doesnt count if you have been busted on multiple occassions, you will have no victory...
He was correcting me james. I was cleared in 6 min. 32 sec.
Re: Johnnyrockets24 / radical, fanatical, nonsensical farming
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:07 am
by stahrgazer
alstergren wrote:
The anti-farming rule applies solely to ?s (and not low ranks in general).
mm... not really.. the rule says, "Includes but is
not limited to..."
Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, holding players hostage, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts, systematically "farming" new recruits.