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We should have a thread to discuss instances of Media Biased. Since 3 people will rip off my idea in the next 5 mintues, I wll let them create the "Right wing" thread.

Starting with Chris Mathews "objective assesment"

Did you just high-jack your own thread, in the opening post?

That, my good sir, is fucking impressive.

Phatscotty wrote:We should have a thread to discuss instances of Media Biased.

Don't we already have a thread titled "Bias in the Media"?

Why yes, I think we do!

it's a specific kind of biased

The left-wing media is biased, by definition. Don't read The Daily Worker for a fair and balanced account of what's going on. Read it, by all means, but realize that they will never side with the bourgeoisie.

Lou Dobbs is on the Orielly Factor

spurgistan wrote:The left-wing media is biased, by definition. Don't read The Daily Worker for a fair and balanced account of what's going on. Read it, by all means, but realize that they will never side with the bourgeoisie.

Don't read Time Magazine either.

muy_thaiguy wrote:

spurgistan wrote:The left-wing media is biased, by definition. Don't read The Daily Worker for a fair and balanced account of what's going on. Read it, by all means, but realize that they will never side with the bourgeoisie.

Don't read Time Magazine either.

pretty much anything disney or AOLTIME WARNER in general, or whatever the hell their name is now?

Check this one out.

Trouble is, too many people don't even know what left wing media is saying. They are so used to plain conservative media that anything approaching center is "left wing", except when it comes to some very specific issues (race, gender mostly).

As was said above, I don't mind left OR right wing media. That's opinion. Agree or disagree. I mind the ones that pretend to be "objective" while voicing a lot of virulant and highly biased "information".

PLAYER57832 wrote:Trouble is, too many people don't even know what left wing media is saying. They are so used to plain conservative media that anything approaching center is "left wing", except when it comes to some very specific issues (race, gender mostly).

As was said above, I don't mind left OR right wing media. That's opinion. Agree or disagree. I mind the ones that pretend to be "objective" while voicing a lot of virulant and highly biased "information".

Would you say the political commentators on MSNBC are center? People take what they say as serious news.

EVIDENCE FOUND!

All media has a bias somewhere. Generally in the UK, there's a lot more right wing-biased media than there is left-biased (can only really think of The Guardian, The Mirror and sometimes The Independent - as opposed to The Sun, Daily Telegraph, Daily Mail, Times, Daily Express, Daily Star, News of the World, ...).

I somehow doubt that the US press is more left-biased since it's a very right wing country (compared with European ones) - doubt very much whether the Democrats would be considered anything other than a centre-right political party over here.

This is an awesome thread title - I have some more:

Right Wingers unobjective on constitutional issues!
Chavez in shock US rant!!
Berlusconi May Not Be 100% Honest Shocker!!!
Alex Ferguson says Manchester United are best team!!!!
Andy Dufresne Often Brings Bananas Into Discussions!!!!!

Sylvan latrines for ursines discovered!

john9blue wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:Trouble is, too many people don't even know what left wing media is saying. They are so used to plain conservative media that anything approaching center is "left wing", except when it comes to some very specific issues (race, gender mostly).

As was said above, I don't mind left OR right wing media. That's opinion. Agree or disagree. I mind the ones that pretend to be "objective" while voicing a lot of virulant and highly biased "information".

Would you say the political commentators on MSNBC are center? People take what they say as serious news.

They are definitely not truly left, only a bit more left than many of the "standard" commentaries. However, even the truly "right wing" commentaries can have areas where they are actually leftist (mostly to do with race and some gender issues .. things that were radical just a generation ago, but now are accepted by all, such as the idea that its OK for a woman to head a company).

If you want truly left wing, try listening to Democracy Now or Alternative Radio (just to name some that I know of and that I know to be accessable.

See, here is the irony. I have held more or less the same political views, overall, for the past 20 years or so. Twenty years ago, I was firmly a conservative, except when it came to environmental issues. (race and gender were already mainstream, no longer strictly rightest by then) Now, with those same views, I am "suddenly" a rabid leftist. I have not changed, the widely accepted definitions of "left" and "right" have changed.

I still don't accept much of the true left...absolutely not the radical left. However, I do try to keep abredst of various ideas, so that my thinking is not so heavily tainted by just one side.

It does not worry me that some people are heavily conservative or heavily leftist. I dislike the strongly conservative bent that our country has taken of late. However, what truly frightens me is that so very, very, very many now think that we are NOT conservative, will blithely say things like "that MSNBC is just leftist" .. and further, believe it, becuase they don't know anything different.


If you want to hear some real left wing stuff (and note, this is still not truly radical left wing, for the most part, these are the more reasonable voices, but quite different from standard media), you can find 2 programs every Friday, at 7 and 8 PM pm this station
http://www.wpsu.org/radio Democracy Now and then Alternative Radio.

Democracy Now! has podcasts here: http://www.democracynow.org
Alternative Radio has podcasts, but you have to pay to listen outside of the Friday broadcasts (other times, other places no doubt, but I don't know where or when).

Listen to them and then try to say that MSNBC is "left wing". Its like comparing CNN to Family Life Network.

Anderson Cooper, seething...over carrie prejean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J44cT0Dkb1E

... Tell me AP's assignment of 11 reporters to fact-check Palin's book, while assigning none to check Obama's is not seriously biased. Player? Anybody?

...

PLAYER57832 wrote:... I have held more or less the same political views, overall, for the past 20 years or so. Twenty years ago, I was firmly a conservative, except when it came to environmental issues. ...

... This, from a person who claims success in life has nothing whatsoever to do with work or effort; it's just a "roll of the dice".

... This, from a person who frequently tells us that free market solutions are folly, and that government is responsible for much (if not most) of our well-being.

... This, from a person who feels that the pursuit of profit is inheritantly evil, consistantly bashing the "evil rich" and those nasty corporate types.

...

... 20 years ago, Ronald Reagan was our President. He was conservative. You're telling me that these were his views?

... Who are trying to kid?

...

Nobunaga wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:... I have held more or less the same political views, overall, for the past 20 years or so. Twenty years ago, I was firmly a conservative, except when it came to environmental issues. ...

... This, from a person who claims success in life has nothing whatsoever to do with work or effort; it's just a "roll of the dice".

... This, from a person who frequently tells us that free market solutions are folly, and that government is responsible for much (if not most) of our well-being.

... This, from a person who feels that the pursuit of profit is inheritantly evil, consistantly bashing the "evil rich" and those nasty corporate types.

...

If you actually believe that Player has said any of these things then I suggest you brush up on your reading skills.

Nobunaga wrote:... Tell me AP's assignment of 11 reporters to fact-check Palin's book, while assigning none to check Obama's is not seriously biased. Player? Anybody?

...

Neither did they fact-check books by Ted Kennedy, Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Rudy Giuliani or Newt Gingrich.

Maybe it's the person and not her party.

MeDeFe wrote:

Nobunaga wrote:... Tell me AP's assignment of 11 reporters to fact-check Palin's book, while assigning none to check Obama's is not seriously biased. Player? Anybody?

...

Neither did they fact-check books by Ted Kennedy, Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Rudy Giuliani or Newt Gingrich.

Maybe it's the person and not her party.

It's the person. CNN fact-checked her book too.

I will not read this book.

thegreekdog wrote:I will not read this book.

Agreed. I've had just about as much of Palin as I ever care to.

Frigidus wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:I will not read this book.

Agreed. I've had just about as much of Palin as I ever care to.

It is very suspect that no one (except those damn conservative media members) fact-checked President Obama's book(s) and that none of the authors listed above have been fact checked. I think it's pretty substantial evidence of liberal media bias.

thegreekdog wrote:

Frigidus wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:I will not read this book.

Agreed. I've had just about as much of Palin as I ever care to.

It is very suspect that no one (except those damn conservative media members) fact-checked President Obama's book(s) and that none of the authors listed above have been fact checked. I think it's pretty substantial evidence of liberal media bias.

Personally, I feel that anyone who fact check books the majority of their viewers will never read is in itself an indication of bias. A politician releasing anecdotes or a biography is not newsworthy. It's barely notable.