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Secret Diplomacy [blocked]
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:06 am
by RatinaE
Accused:
dejan1973
desa007
The accused are suspected of:
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Game number(s):6060118
Comments:
they talk in no english and they dont try to break etsh others bonuses they only are going after breaking my bonuses and the have bin playing 1 game together only one and it is the 2 game for one of them !! maby im just seeing things but !! pleace look into it and give me a note !! i wil not take my next turn befor i have head from u

Re: Secret Diplomacy
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:17 am
by VampireM
RatinaE wrote:Accused:
dejan1973
desa007
The accused are suspected of:
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Game number(s):
Game 6060118
Comments:
they talk in no english and they dont try to break etsh others bonuses they only are going after breaking my bonuses and the have bin playing 1 game together only one and it is the 2 game for one of them !! maby im just seeing things but !! pleace look into it and give me a note !! i wil not take my next turn befor i have head from u

they should be warned/told to use english only in the chat.. as for your secret diplomacy, i dont think there is enough in this game... they did hit each other quite a bit in this game... but a mod will look into it
Re: Secret Diplomacy
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:26 am
by RatinaE
thx for u fast respons ille make my turn and the game is over BUT stil 8(
Re: Secret Diplomacy
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:14 pm
by insaneJB
More games!!!!!! Maybe these will help.
Game 6060131
Game 6060584
Game 6061336
Game 6061410
Game 6061576
Game 6061590
All the games these two played together soo far. And what do ya know? The same newb wins all of them! Every single one. Don't ya think you would eventually learn after a few games, and win one?
Gotta be a multi. f*ck the secret demopolicy idea.
Re: Secret Diplomacy
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:07 am
by VampireM
this case is coming together nicely... when i looked at this report desa007 had only 3 or 4 games total... but the 1v1 are really making for a strong case against them..
Re: Secret Diplomacy [pending]
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:23 pm
by Evil Semp
dejan1973 and desa007 have been blocked from playing together.
Re: Secret Diplomacy
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:02 pm
by Woodruff
VampireM wrote:they should be warned/told to use english only in the chat.
Nope - this is no longer an expectation at all. If they're speaking in a language other than English...tough shit you have to figure it out yourself, says the site.
Re: Secret Diplomacy
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:36 am
by VampireM
Woodruff wrote:VampireM wrote:they should be warned/told to use english only in the chat.
Nope - this is no longer an expectation at all. If they're speaking in a language other than English...tough shit you have to figure it out yourself, says the site.
Since when did this come in? its still in the rules
Rule #2: No secret diplomacy
Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand. Diplomacy includes, but is not limited to: proposing truces, negotiating alliances, and coordinating assaults. Secret diplomacy can be hard to prove, but if you suspect it you should leave the players in question appropriate ratings. If you feel certain about players engaging in secret diplomacy consider reporting them in the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum by posting a new topic.
Re: Secret Diplomacy
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:32 pm
by Woodruff
VampireM wrote:Woodruff wrote:VampireM wrote:they should be warned/told to use english only in the chat.
Nope - this is no longer an expectation at all. If they're speaking in a language other than English...tough shit you have to figure it out yourself, says the site.
Since when did this come in? its still in the rules
Rule #2: No secret diplomacy
Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand. Diplomacy includes, but is not limited to: proposing truces, negotiating alliances, and coordinating assaults. Secret diplomacy can be hard to prove, but if you suspect it you should leave the players in question appropriate ratings. If you feel certain about players engaging in secret diplomacy consider reporting them in the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum by posting a new topic.
Ah, you see...the "out"...the "hook"...the "catch"...the "loophole" is that "Any form of DIPLOMATIC discussion". The moderators have ruled that unless it is a diplomatic discussion, it does not have to be in English. Of course, you can't know that it's not a diplomatic discussion unless you understand the language being used but that's not important! Sanity and common sense be damned, you'll have to figure out what they're saying (in that other language) on your own:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 9&t=102535
Re: Secret Diplomacy
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:36 pm
by jefjef
Woodruff wrote:VampireM wrote:Woodruff wrote:VampireM wrote:they should be warned/told to use english only in the chat.
Nope - this is no longer an expectation at all. If they're speaking in a language other than English...tough shit you have to figure it out yourself, says the site.
Since when did this come in? its still in the rules
Rule #2: No secret diplomacy
Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand. Diplomacy includes, but is not limited to: proposing truces, negotiating alliances, and coordinating assaults. Secret diplomacy can be hard to prove, but if you suspect it you should leave the players in question appropriate ratings. If you feel certain about players engaging in secret diplomacy consider reporting them in the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum by posting a new topic.
Ah, you see...the "out"...the "hook"...the "catch"...the "loophole" is that "Any form of DIPLOMATIC discussion". The moderators have ruled that unless it is a diplomatic discussion, it does not have to be in English. Of course, you can't know that it's not a diplomatic discussion unless you understand the language being used but that's not important! Sanity and common sense be damned, you'll have to figure out what they're saying (in that other language) on your own:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 9&t=102535

C'mon woody. If they want to talk about why pigs should be driven off of cliffs in whatever gibberish they want to use why would it matter.
BUT if they want to talk strategy and not all players understand gibberish then it is correct to dictate and enforce the common language rule. It's a secret diplomacy. A CHEAT. Give it up.
If you can't figure out what is being said than file a complaint and let CC deal with it.