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Hard Maps
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:37 am
by OverDoseD
Just wondering, what are some of the best complex maps on CC? And also best simple maps on CC?
I want to start playing a bit more complex maps because i'm tired of really low ranked players joining my simple map games. So any suggestions for new maps i should play? Currently the only slightly more advanced map i play is Dawn of Ages.
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:05 am
by Catarah
well it kind of depends. there are maps which look impossible to understand, but once you 'get' them, they're quite easy. there are maps which have quite simple gameplay, but are still quite hard to become good in, and everything in between.
a few of the maps i would call complex is das schloss, Monsters, Poison Rome,Supermax: Prison Riot!, WWII Poland, Arms Race! and Waterloo.
but there are simply so many complex maps to choose from, and each has their own pro's and con's. i'm personally a fan of Arms race!, Poker Club and Feudal War/Feudal epic. but the best would be to simply try out maps and see which ones you like.
and low ranked players joining your games will probably never end. though what you could do, is go to the callouts forum
viewforum.php?f=31 , and look for higher ranked players to play against in there. they've got a thread for 1400+ games, 1600+ games, 1800+ games, etc. that way you can play some of the simpler maps against thougher opponents.
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:38 pm
by Hannibał
Or instead of creating games, just find games feature to only search for games you WOULD create, and join games with similar ranked opponents or higher.
Definitly try out diffrent maps, too bad you missed out on the I walk alone tournament, you could try every map. Maybe make a thread in callouts to do something similar?
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:13 pm
by DarthFrog
Try starting a few games with Random. You'll try a bunch of maps you never thought you would play, and you will find some that you like, and others that you want to stay away from.
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:11 am
by Gillipig
OverDoseD wrote:Just wondering, what are some of the best complex maps on CC? And also best simple maps on CC?
I want to start playing a bit more complex maps because i'm tired of really low ranked players joining my simple map games. So any suggestions for new maps i should play? Currently the only slightly more advanced map i play is Dawn of Ages.
I agree with the post above! Try random map if you want to try new maps! I do that now but I must warn you your rank will most certainly drop when you try new maps! But it's worth it! Maps that people generally find hard are those who stray from the normal gameplay such as Poison Rome, Das schlos, City Mogul, Battle For Iraq!, poker club (very easy ones you get it), Forbidden City etc! The easy ones are maps that have no features like classic, Africa, Europa etc.!
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:11 pm
by mc05025
OverDoseD wrote:Just wondering, what are some of the best complex maps on CC? And also best simple maps on CC?
I want to start playing a bit more complex maps because i'm tired of really low ranked players joining my simple map games. So any suggestions for new maps i should play? Currently the only slightly more advanced map i play is Dawn of Ages.
I think Waterloo is one of the most complicated maps.
But you can try Kings court, clandenomium, Middle ages.
With freestyle setting the most maps with objective like third crusade
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:41 pm
by shieldgenerator7
Lunar War! it may not be as complex as some other maps, but it definitely has a strategy to it that some don't get right away.
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:57 am
by SirSebstar
mwa. i think lunar war is comparable to poland in gameplay for teams..
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:30 am
by anonymus
mc05025 wrote:OverDoseD wrote:Just wondering, what are some of the best complex maps on CC? And also best simple maps on CC?
I want to start playing a bit more complex maps because i'm tired of really low ranked players joining my simple map games. So any suggestions for new maps i should play? Currently the only slightly more advanced map i play is Dawn of Ages.
I think Waterloo is one of the most complicated maps.
But you can try Kings court, clandenomium, Middle ages.
With freestyle setting the most maps with objective like third crusade
waterloo can be tricky, but mainly its about bombading and sneaking in a small bonus/not loosing too much terr..
clandemonmium is just big.. not that complex, kings court has its tweaks and actually is one of the new favourites since not drop-dependant.... i couldnt win any of them freestyle ofcourse but just because im old and slow..
battle for iraq can be tricky first times you play it..
monsters for sure i still have no idéa what im doing there

my 5
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Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:37 am
by SirSebstar
monsters is not that difficult, it just aint no fun, even if you cannot win anymore it takes a few turns to get killed
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:29 am
by mr. CD
Das Schloss, AoR (especially II), Easter, Prison Riot, Monsters, Battle of Iraq, Feudal Epic and War, King's Court, Clandemonium.
Easiest would be Doodle Earth, Luxembourg and Classic imo.
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:45 am
by anonymus
mr. CD wrote:Das Schloss, AoR (especially II), Easter, Prison Riot, Monsters, Battle of Iraq, Feudal Epic and War, King's Court, Clandemonium.
Easiest would be Doodle Earth, Luxembourg and Classic imo.
i disagree with easiest as those maps largely comes down to luck.. who goes first and has better drop..
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Edit; doodle and lux that is..
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Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:45 am
by TheSaxlad
I disagree, part of it is the drop, but actually doodle earth is one of the hardest to master. Its all about getting and keeping a bonus while stopping the other person do the same.
Doodle Earth would be better if it was coded so that one person couldnt have a whole bonus @ the start.
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:18 am
by anonymus
TheSaxlad wrote:I disagree, part of it is the drop, but actually doodle earth is one of the hardest to master. Its all about getting and keeping a bonus while stopping the other person do the same.
Doodle Earth would be better if it was coded so that one person couldnt have a whole bonus @ the start.
well thats just the thing.. 3 player assassin is a setting where a powebalance can be witheld even if you get a bad drop.. but 1v1 these small maps are 80% about
a) who starts b)drop c)dice in round 1 and 2
after that if you cant break that first bonus or wahtever unless you playing a total 'tard you are screwed..
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Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:53 am
by Joodoo
Cricket and Stalingrad are insanely hard to understand.
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:21 am
by SirSebstar
Joodoo wrote:Cricket and Stalingrad are insanely hard to understand.
why? esp stalinggrad is not that hard, unless you have no bob, then it is diffuclt, but there are more where you can bombard and you just dont know it
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:57 pm
by DarthFrog
SirSebstar wrote:Joodoo wrote:Cricket and Stalingrad are insanely hard to understand.
why? esp stalinggrad is not that hard, unless you have no bob, then it is diffuclt, but there are more where you can bombard and you just dont know it
You shouldn't have to have BOB to understand a map. Stalingrad is head spinning hard to understand. Mind you I only tried it once. I play on more than one computer. My main one has BOB and the others don't. BOB is a great program, but one should not have to rely on it to understand what's going on.
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:58 pm
by natty dread
Thing about Stalingrad... It's hard to figure out which tanks the artilleries bombard.
I mean, it's not explained very clear on the map.
Re: Hard Maps
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:03 am
by Army of GOD
The hardest maps for me are the ones with the most vague borders/bonuses. I saw someone mention Feudal Epic but that's actually really easy, you just need someone to tell you the basic strategy.
Cricket just looks like an eye-fuck. I'm in a game in it now and I have no idea what I'm doing, I'm just receiving orders. Usually, the worse looking maps are the harder ones for me.