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Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (Finished - Winner=wrexham)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:05 am
by DaveH
Pointless Singles - Arms Race!

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This is a pointless pedestrian crossing.

Can you be a pointless player?


Congratulations to wrexham who won by just 3 points from ianphull who was just 4 points ahead of Mr. CD!
=D> =D> =D> =D> =D>


(There were players who had more wins, but none who had more than 1 win below the next player - and the specification of this tournament was to try and equalise, to some extent, the experience and expertise of players of higher rank by awarding points based upon rank difference (as CC does) rather than straight number of wins. However, with 1 v 1 on a map such as Arms Race! together with starting first, the luck factor has led to large points differences awarded in a few cases that made it very hard for highly ranked players to compete.

For this reason, future pointless tournaments will use the formula "Points won = (8 + (actual points won)*0.60)/20" which has a 60% factor on points difference that increases points below 20 and reduces them above 20. With thanks to Dukasaur and HA for their input on this - I hope you join in the next pointless tournament according to wrexham's map specification!)


If you have a favourite map that has not featured before, then win this tournament and the next Pointless Singles Tournament will be on your map.

1stCatalyst was the winner of the last pointless singles tournament on Age of Realms 3, so this is his favourite:

Arms Race! Settings: Automatic, Sequential, Flat Rate, Chained, Foggy, 30 round limit.

16 players; 1 v 1 against everyone else. One game sent out each round.

The winner will be the most pointless player. That is, for every win you get, your defeated opponent gets the CC points that you have gained against him.
Players
1stCatalyst
DaveH
wrexham
Mr. CD
giannikas
ETROPAL
MyTurnToWin
General Bax
Chewie1
Arya
jasholz
CoopClaret
dorsettrob
QoH
HighlanderAttack
ianphull

Dukasaur & greenoaks replaced jasholz & QoH
Rounds 1-3
Game 9932418 1stCatalyst vs Chewie1 (21)
Game 9932423 DaveH vs Arya (16)
Game 9932417 wrexham vs jasholz (18)
Game 9932416 Mr. CD vs CoopClaret (12)
Game 9932415 giannikas vs dorsettrob (17)
Game 9932414 ETROPAL vs Dukasaur (30)
Game 9932413 MyTurnToWin (19) vs HighlanderAttack
Game 9932412 General Bax (14) vs ianphull
Game 9994953 1stCatalyst (19) vs Arya
Game 9994952 DaveH vs jasholz (20)
Game 9994951 wrexham vs CoopClaret (14)
Game 9994950 Mr. CD vs dorsettrob (13)
Game 9994944 giannikas vs Dukasaur (27)
Game 9994943 ETROPAL vs HighlanderAttack (24)
Game 9994942 MyTurnToWin (17) vs ianphull
Game 9994937 General Bax (12) vs Chewie1
Game 10041539 1stCatalyst vs jasholz (23)
Game 10041538 DaveH vs CoopClaret (19)
Game 10041536 wrexham vs dorsettrob (14)
Game 10041535 Mr. CD (21) vs Dukasaur
Game 10041533 giannikas (18) vs HighlanderAttack
Game 10041531 ETROPAL vs ianphull (24)
Game 10041530 MyTurnToWin (15) vs Chewie1
Game 10041528 General Bax vs Arya (32)
Rounds 4-6
Game 10084839 1stCatalyst vs CoopClaret (20)
Game 10084838 DaveH vs dorsettrob (17)
Game 10084837 wrexham vs Dukasaur (17)
Game 10084836 Mr. CD vs HighlanderAttack (20)
Game 10084835 giannikas vs ianphull (24)
Game 10084834 ETROPAL vs Chewie1 (26)
Game 10084833 MyTurnToWin (17) vs Arya
Game 10084832 General Bax (13) vs jasholz
Game 10119571 1stCatalyst vs dorsettrob (19)
Game 10119570 DaveH vs Dukasaur (17)
Game 10119569 wrexham (18) vs HighlanderAttack
Game 10119568 Mr. CD (27) vs ianphull
Game 10119567 giannikas vs Chewie1 (26)
Game 10119566 ETROPAL vs Arya (20)
Game 10119565 MyTurnToWin vs jasholz (23)
Game 10119564 General Bax vs CoopClaret (25)
Game 10194469 1stCatalyst (19) vs Dukasaur
Game 10194468 DaveH (17) vs HighlanderAttack
Game 10194467 wrexham (19) vs ianphull
Game 10194466 Mr. CD vs Chewie1 (18)
Game 10194465 giannikas vs Arya (20)
Game 10194463 ETROPAL (18) vs greenoaks
Game 10194461 MyTurnToWin vs CoopClaret (28)
Game 10194458 General Bax (19) vs dorsettrob
Round 7-9
Game 10238680 1stCatalyst (14) vs HighlanderAttack
Game 10238679 DaveH (20) vs ianphull
Game 10238677 wrexham vs Chewie1 (26)
Game 10238676 Mr. CD vs Arya (19)
Game 10238675 giannikas (22) vs greenoaks
Game 10238674 ETROPAL (19) vs CoopClaret
Game 10238673 MyTurnToWin (17) vs dorsettrob
Game 10238672 General Bax (13) vs Dukasaur
Game 10287799 1stCatalyst (15) vs ianphull
Game 10287796 DaveH (14) vs Chewie1
Game 10287795 wrexham vs Arya (20)
Game 10287794 Mr. CD vs greenoaks (18)
Game 10287792 giannikas vs CoopClaret (19)
Game 10287791 ETROPAL (19) vs dorsettrob
Game 10287790 MyTurnToWin (13) vs Dukasaur
Game 10287789 General Bax vs HighlanderAttack (32)
Game 10326366 1stCatalyst vs giannikas (27)
Game 10326365 DaveH (22) vs ETROPAL
Game 10326363 wrexham vs MyTurnToWin (15)
Game 10326362 Mr. CD vs General Bax (16)
Game 10326385 Chewie1 (27) vs dorsettrob
Game 10326360 Arya vs Dukasaur (23)
Game 10326358 greenoaks (17) vs HighlanderAttack
Game 10326354 CoopClaret (17) vs ianphull
Round 10-12
Game 10388251 1stCatalyst (17) vs ETROPAL
Game 10388255 DaveH vs MyTurnToWin (16)
Game 10388254 wrexham vs General Bax (14)
Game 10388252 Mr. CD vs giannikas (18)
Game 10388251 Chewie1 (19) vs Dukasaur
Game 10388249 Arya (16) vs HighlanderAttack
Game 10388246 greenoaks (24) vs ianphull
Game 10388242 CoopClaret (23) vs dorsettrob
Game 10443526 1stCatalyst vs MyTurnToWin (17)
Game 10443524 DaveH (18) vs General Bax
Game 10443523 wrexham vs giannikas (20)
Game 10443522 Mr. CD (24) vs ETROPAL
Game 10443521 Chewie1 vs HighlanderAttack (19)
Game 10443520 Arya vs ianphull (22)
Game 10443519 greenoaks vs dorsettrob (19)
Game 10443518 CoopClaret vs Dukasaur (15)
Game 10509308 1stCatalyst (25) vs General Bax
Game 10509307 DaveH (21) vs giannikas
Game 10509306 wrexham vs ETROPAL (17)
Game 10509305 Mr. CD (26) vs MyTurnToWin
Game 10509304 Chewie1 (20) vs ianphull
Game 10509303 Arya (20) vs dorsettrob
Game 10509302 greenoaks vs Dukasaur (19)
Game 10509301 CoopClaret vs HighlanderAttack (24)
Round 13-15
Game 10574237 1stCatalyst vs wrexham (19)
Game 10574235 DaveH (17) vs Mr. CD
Game 10574232 giannikas vs MyTurnToWin (20)
Game 10574231 ETROPAL (25) vs General Bax
Game 10574230 Chewie1 vs greenoaks (16)
Game 10574228 Arya (20) vs CoopClaret
Game 10574227 dorsettrob (17) vs HighlanderAttack
Game 10574225 Dukasaur (15) vs ianphull
Game 10633592 1stCatalyst (20) vs Mr. CD
Game 10633590 DaveH vs wrexham (20)
Game 10633586 giannikas vs General Bax (18)
Game 10633585 ETROPAL (21) vs MyTurnToWin
Game 10633583 Chewie1 (40) vs CoopClaret
Game 10633580 Arya (22) vs greenoaks
Game 10633579 dorsettrob (17) vs ianphull
Game 10633577 Dukasaur (17) vs HighlanderAttack
Game 10689490 1stCatalyst vs DaveH (16)
Game 10689422 wrexham (17) vs Mr. CD
Game 10689419 giannikas vs ETROPAL (17)
Game 10689417 MyTurnToWin (20) vs General Bax
Game 10689416 Chewie1 (30) vs Arya
Game 10689414 greenoaks (25) vs CoopClaret
Game 10689413 dorsettrob (20) vs Dukasaur
Game 10689412 HighlanderAttack (20) vs ianphull
Scores
wrexham 91
ianphull 94
Mr. CD 98
giannikas 105
General Bax 119
1stCatalyst 129
ETROPAL 136
HighlanderAttack 139
DaveH 145
dorsettrob 153
greenoaks 160
CoopClaret 177
Dukasaur 180
MyTurnToWin 186
Arya 205
Chewie1 253

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (2 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:22 am
by wrexham
in please

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (2 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:33 am
by mr. CD
In please

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (2 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:46 am
by giannikas
in please

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (5 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:10 am
by DaveH
In up to here.

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (5 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:33 am
by ETROPAL
in plz

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (5 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:55 pm
by MyTurnToWin
Sign me up, please. \:D/

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (5 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:31 pm
by General Bax
i'm in

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (5 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:44 pm
by Chewie1
in pls

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (5 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:57 pm
by Arya
in please

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (5 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:29 pm
by jasholz
in please

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (5 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:23 pm
by CoopClaret
in please

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (5 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:53 pm
by dorsettrob
in please

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (5 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:58 pm
by QoH
Can you be accused of point dumping though? You'd win the tournament if you purposefully lost ever single games wouldn't you? Or is this not a RR tornement?

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (5 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:14 pm
by HighlanderAttack
in please

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (5 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:16 pm
by HighlanderAttack
QoH wrote:Can you be accused of point dumping though? You'd win the tournament if you purposefully lost ever single games wouldn't you? Or is this not a RR tornement?
no because if u r losing u r gaining points

gaining points is bad in this tourney if I am reading correct

closest person to zero wins so if u won all your games u would give those points u gained to your opponents and win the tourney at zero

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (5 of 16)

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:13 pm
by ianphull
In please :D

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (15 of 16)

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:14 am
by DaveH
Thanks for joining, everyone - just one place left!

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (Full)

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:22 am
by DaveH
Missed Page 2! All in - and full.

Re the comments above, the points from each game go against the loser (just to make it a little different and get the chance to put some silly pictures in the thread).

I like using points in games as it somewhat compensates for the different ranks of competitors.

Unfortunately, with HA in this tournament, we may be playing this map for ever.....

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (Full)

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:49 am
by Dukasaur
Damn, I missed it.

First reserve, please...:-)

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (Full)

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:30 am
by HighlanderAttack
Dukasaur wrote:Damn, I missed it.

First reserve, please...:-)
you can take my spot--high ranks have no chance with lower ranks like Etropal--he is very good on arms race but always has a low rank--he can lose 4 games to my two and I would still be losing with this format--that being said he beat me so no excuses on my part

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (Round 7)

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:53 am
by Dukasaur
DaveH wrote: Image
This is a pointless pedestrian crossing.

Everytime I see this I expect to see the Beatles walking across...:)

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (Round 8)

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:22 pm
by HighlanderAttack
glad to see I was not replaced as I have not lost since I made my last statement --guess that means I will lose this time :)

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (Round 8)

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:26 am
by HighlanderAttack
HighlanderAttack wrote:glad to see I was not replaced as I have not lost since I made my last statement --guess that means I will lose this time :)

I was correct that I would lose :(

Re: Pointless Singles - Arms Race! (Round 10)

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:29 am
by HighlanderAttack
I think this would be better if you put a cap on the losing. For example--the most points you could lose is 25 or 28 Something like that. You start getting up in the 30s when other players are only losing 10-12 and they gain a 75% advantage. Something to think about.

I have to be considered one of the best on this map and I only win at a 66% win rate.

Other maps that you do this for you have to consider 60% as the factor of a good player in a one vs one--that is actually very good. 55% is good.

If you factor those numbers in to make things fair you have to cap it.

Just a thought for the future of this series if you continue it.

Great idea though