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If a private citizen kicked someone in the head like that, what would you think about it?

Yes, he should. Like any citizens. His life was not endangered a single bit. If she had knife-integrated space cowboy annihilator boots, it would be a different story.

pimpdave wrote:


If a private citizen kicked someone in the head like that, what would you think about it?

Jackpot, bullseye, score, goal, try, touchdown, 3 pointer, ace, hole in one, home run, ko, flawless victory.

In defense of the cop, there's no audio, if there was you would've heard her call him a weally weally mean name.

it looks like she was handcuffed, in which case i would consider his kick an assault because she posed no threat to him

What show is that?

john9blue wrote:it looks like she was handcuffed, in which case i would consider his kick an assault because she posed no threat to him

She kicked him first.

Night Strike wrote:

john9blue wrote:it looks like she was handcuffed, in which case i would consider his kick an assault because she posed no threat to him

She kicked him first.

in the leg. he didn't even flinch.

and for the record, i'd say the same thing if the cop was female and the handcuffed one was male

john9blue wrote:in the leg. he didn't even flinch.

He didn't flinch because he check blocked her kick. He may have kicked her in the head before he even realize it in reaction out of habit.
Maybe when you decide to kick a cop you should pick one that doesn't spend so much time at the dojo.

Ahem, obviously I mean if it was real and not a scene from something.

Aradhus wrote:

pimpdave wrote:


If a private citizen kicked someone in the head like that, what would you think about it?

Jackpot, bullseye, score, goal, try, touchdown, 3 pointer, ace, hole in one, home run, ko, flawless victory.

In defense of the cop, there's no audio, if there was you would've heard her call him a weally weally mean name.

She actually says "Asshole!" before she takes a bit of shoe leather to the head.

2dimes wrote:

john9blue wrote:in the leg. he didn't even flinch.

He didn't flinch because he check blocked her kick. He may have kicked her in the head before he even realize it in reaction out of habit.
Maybe when you decide to kick a cop you should pick one that doesn't spend so much time at the dojo.

Agreed,it could easily have been a reflex defensive reaction,the best way not to get kicked is to not kick first.It's disurbing how many women nowadays think they can assault men and get away with it because of some antiquated,pathetic notion of chivalry that some men still ascribe to.

Night Strike wrote:

john9blue wrote:it looks like she was handcuffed, in which case i would consider his kick an assault because she posed no threat to him

She kicked him first.

How is that relevant? If a four-year-old kicks you in the shin, would you feel that the cop's response would be a reasonable one for you to take? With her being handcuffed the way she was, it's an apt analogy.

chang50 wrote:

2dimes wrote:

john9blue wrote:in the leg. he didn't even flinch.

He didn't flinch because he check blocked her kick. He may have kicked her in the head before he even realize it in reaction out of habit.
Maybe when you decide to kick a cop you should pick one that doesn't spend so much time at the dojo.

Agreed,it could easily have been a reflex defensive reaction,the best way not to get kicked is to not kick first.It's disurbing how many women nowadays think they can assault men and get away with it because of some antiquated,pathetic notion of chivalry that some men still ascribe to.

It has nothing to do with male-female. It has everything to do with the situation of her being handcuffed and putting the cop in no danger whatsoever (as clearly evidenced by his easy reaction). I would absolutely view the situation differently if she weren't handcuffed or could somehow pose an actual threat to him. It being an "automatic reaction" is a stupid defense, otherwise you're authorizing any former military members with serious training to do whatever the hell they want to in response to anything.

If the stupid whore hadn't kicked him first, there'd be no retaliatory kick from him. She was the maker of her own justice and deserved everything she got. I'd have picked her up by the hair and pepper sprayed her.

Woodruff wrote:

Night Strike wrote:She kicked him first.

How is that relevant? If a four-year-old kicks you in the shin, would you feel that the cop's response would be a reasonable one for you to take?

Lol'd.

barackattack wrote:If the stupid whore hadn't kicked him first, there'd be no retaliatory kick from him. She was the maker of her own justice and deserved everything she got. I'd have picked her up by the hair and pepper sprayed her.

Of course you would, because as you've shown in these fora, you're a misogynistic bigot.

barackattack wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Night Strike wrote:She kicked him first.

How is that relevant? If a four-year-old kicks you in the shin, would you feel that the cop's response would be a reasonable one for you to take?

Lol'd.

Does that mean your answer to the question is a "yes"?

Derp. I'd do the same thing if it was a man in cuffs who kicked me (although, I admit, it wouldn't make me feel quite so damned delicious on the inside).

There's a big difference between a four year-old and a criminal in cuffs.

pimpdave wrote:


If a private citizen kicked someone in the head like that, what would you think about it?

Assault? I don't know. Isn't assault verbal and battery physical? I don't remember.

At the very least the officer should be held accountable for kicking a handcuffed person in the head when that person posed no threat to the officer. And I suspect that's what happpened or will happen.

john9blue wrote:it looks like she was handcuffed, in which case i would consider his kick an assault because she posed no threat to him

"Assault" would not be the proper charge. Excessive force, perhaps. It is unclear from the video how hard she was kicked, but it does look bad. If she was at all injured by that kick, then certainly he should face reprecussions, given that she is handcuffed and not really presenting a serious threat.. all he had to do was move before this even happened.

She should be grateful that she lives in the Western world, where her law-breaking (evidenced by her handcuffs) and following aggression towards authority (assaulting a police officer) result in no more than a quick slap. She's damn lucky (and society damn unlucky) that an arsehole like her is now being heralded as the victim of police brutality, and not the grubby criminal that she is.

http://www.nospank.net/n-j17.htm

barak, please stop agreeing with me.

Woodruff wrote:It has everything to do with the situation of her being handcuffed and putting the cop in no danger whatsoever (as clearly evidenced by his easy reaction). I would absolutely view the situation differently if she weren't handcuffed or could somehow pose an actual threat to him. It being an "automatic reaction" is a stupid defense, otherwise you're authorizing any former military members with serious training to do whatever the hell they want to in response to anything.

I'm not authorizing it.

It is a little like those people that walk out in front of your car while you're driving just because at some point they were told, "The pedestrian has the right of way." Actually the pedestrian has the right of way at the corner or in a marked cross walk. Not just anywhere they feel like being a jerk and making you use your brakes to try and avoid them. Even if they are in the cross walk and do actually have the right of way, I'm not going to feel bad if they get in front of a car that can not possibly skid to a stop and hits tham. Yes of course it was the driver's fault and he should get a ticket. The dead guy for sure was right as far as traffic law. Too bad they didn't learn about the other law the car is bound to, inertia.

He's writing details about whatever she did to end up in cuffs, probably kicking, slapping and gouging another officer off camera being treated with eye injuries. Who's going to take the time to figure out who it is and how dangerous they are or are not. His periphreal vision catches the motion of the attach, BLOCK-AND-COUNTER. Oops, that was a woman in cuffs, sorry. Or was the whole thing designed for him to kick her in the head on camera? Oh wait it was because it's from some low budget television production.

I'm a misogynistic bigot, you can tell because I think women are weak "like four year olds" and shouldn't be kicked in the head most of the time.

For all those who criticise giving the general populace a bit of tough love:

Libya under Gaddafi had a lower murder rate than the US under George Bush or Barack Obama.

Something to think about.

barackattack wrote:For all those who criticise giving the general populace a bit of tough love:

Libya under Gaddafi had a lower murder rate than the US under George Bush or Barack Obama.

Something to think about.

Did the Libyan murder stastics include deaths at the hands of government and/or military officials?

Now you're agreeing with saxitoxin.

Something else to think about.

2dimes wrote:Now you're agreeing with saxitoxin.

Something else to think about.

I think you'll find I'm agreeing with the official statistics.

That's crazy talk.