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Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:19 pm
by remydog
Accused:
serreskiThe accused are suspected of
Severe PM Abuse
Game number(s):
[game]12821672[/game]
Comments: please see abusive comments directed at me and others.
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:24 pm
by TheForgivenOne
remydog wrote:Accused:
serreskiThe accused are suspected of
Severe PM Abuse
Game number(s):
[game]12821672[/game]
Comments: please see abusive comments directed at me and others.
On CC we take a liberal stance on what is said. Normal trash talking is allowed, and we generally only step in for bigotry. If you don't like the way he is talking, I suggest to Foe and Move on.
Closed
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:31 pm
by Lindax
TheForgivenOne wrote:On CC we take a liberal stance on what is said. Normal trash talking is allowed, and we generally only step in for bigotry. If you don't like the way he is talking, I suggest to Foe and Move on. Closed
Sorry TFO, but that is a bullshit statement. C&A mods take liberal stand or not whenever they want. They generally step in when they think they can, want to, or feel like it.
I got noted for "normal trash talk", which mean you guys stepped in even when it was nowhere near bigotry. I even used your above statement (which you have made before) to my defense with no avail.
Consistency in the C&A department is still non-existing.... unfortunately.
Lx
PS: You just became 20% less cool
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:09 pm
by shoop76
Isn't calling someone a "retard" just as offensive as using the n word or a homophobic slur?
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:32 pm
by Edric Wolfswift
shoop76 wrote:Isn't calling someone a "retard" just as offensive as using the n word or a homophobic slur?
Looks like shoop76 beat me to it... I think calling someone a retard is bigotry
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:51 pm
by Frox333
I easily agree with these two. retard is a highly offensive word in my vocab and would never, EVER, use it. I think he should be charged with bigotry.
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:02 pm
by chapcrap
I have a retarded family member and I don't really get offended by it, but either way, I just did a quick search and found these cases where C&A did nothing for the use of the word. So, I don't really think you can say they are being inconsistent.
viewtopic.php?f=239&t=157807viewtopic.php?f=239&t=181642viewtopic.php?f=239&t=179181And the community guidelines don't really disagree with this ruling either from what I can see:
Subject: Community GuidelinesBigoted comments will not be tolerated---lets all tolerate and live peacefully with one another.[spoiler=Bigotry Specifics]
- Bigotry includes racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia/sexual orientation bashing, religion bashing, lack of religion bashing, or wishing violence on any group of people, etc.
- Bigotry takes into account historic events, emotional baggage and generally accepted associations with a term, phrase or intent - posting "White Power" in a topic has a history and is bigoted, posting "Green Power" makes you an environmentalist.
Bigotry will get your post edited/deleted and you will receive a disciplinary action from a mod. Bigotry, just avoid it. Just do it.[/spoiler]
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:53 pm
by shoop76
I believe it should be changed. I have an autistic son and I do get offended by the term. I have a gay family member and am not offended by any homophobic terms. I have friends of all color and all religious beliefs and none of those terms offend me. I have family members that are old, and honestly, what is ageism anyway.
I do understand the deeper meaning of the word "retard", however many other terms conceived as bigotry also have historical meanings and at times were considered appropriate.
At least people in the included categories can defend themselves, many so called "retarded" persons cannot.
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:09 am
by Jippd
I think it is unfair to punish people for making fun of homosexuals but not punishing those that make of the mentally challenged. That is inconsistency to me.
Personally I think all trash talking should be allowed. I also think it is unfair to punish people for making fun of someone for their sexual preference but not for punishing people for making fun of someone by using words that have to do with their mental capacity.
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:16 am
by jltile1
This is not PM abuse in the first place. And these are only words relax guys...
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:32 am
by Jdsizzleslice
jltile1 wrote:This is not PM abuse in the first place. And these are only words relax guys...
Here Kinda agree with this to an extent. Now i know it might be hard/difficult to tell, but when the word retarded is used to mean stupid, it's just socially acceptable. Most of you I know don't like it. Now if he called you say, a "mentally ill retarded slimebag" or something and hoped you got aids then that would be bigotry.

Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:39 am
by jltile1
Jdsizzleslice wrote:jltile1 wrote:This is not PM abuse in the first place. And these are only words relax guys...
Here Kinda agree with this to an extent. Now i know it might be hard/difficult to tell, but when the word retarded is used to mean stupid, it's just socially acceptable. Most of you I know don't like it. Now if he called you say, a "mentally ill retarded slimebag" or something and hoped you got aids then that would be bigotry.

Dude your not a CA mod relax and fix my bugs or something
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:30 am
by Frox333
jltile1 wrote:Jdsizzleslice wrote:jltile1 wrote:This is not PM abuse in the first place. And these are only words relax guys...
Here Kinda agree with this to an extent. Now i know it might be hard/difficult to tell, but when the word retarded is used to mean stupid, it's just socially acceptable. Most of you I know don't like it. Now if he called you say, a "mentally ill retarded slimebag" or something and hoped you got aids then that would be bigotry.

Dude your not a CA mod relax and fix my bugs or something
lol, don't be a dousche jt

and also, its just such an offensive word. I know where jd is coming from with his point, but it is like calling a black person that certain deragotory word
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:52 pm
by Jdsizzleslice
Frox333 wrote:jltile1 wrote:Jdsizzleslice wrote:jltile1 wrote:This is not PM abuse in the first place. And these are only words relax guys...
Here Kinda agree with this to an extent. Now i know it might be hard/difficult to tell, but when the word retarded is used to mean stupid, it's just socially acceptable. Most of you I know don't like it. Now if he called you say, a "mentally ill retarded slimebag" or something and hoped you got aids then that would be bigotry.

Dude your not a CA mod relax and fix my bugs or something
lol, don't be a dousche jt

and also, its just such an offensive word. I know where jd is coming from with his point, but it is like calling a black person that certain deragotory word
Exactly... Difference between a noun and an adjective.
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:00 pm
by shoop76
JT my guess is you are a young white male and have never had to deal with an issue like this.
Where I come from, if something is offensive to someone, don't say it out of respect for that person.
Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:12 pm
by jltile1
shoop76 wrote:JT my guess is you are a young white male and have never had to deal with an issue like this.
Where I come from, if something is offensive to someone, don't say it out of respect for that person.
Let me guess you have a fanny pouch.
Live in Montana
Ride a scooter to work
Wax your eyebrows
And wear girls underwear
I'm from the bay where we have a lil tougher skin.d

Re: Serreski[Closed]TFO
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:36 pm
by TheForgivenOne
Enough is enough. Locked.