Conquer Club

They will never return my favors anyway, so why spend money on them when they won't give me anything in return? Isn't that just a bad investment? I get the point with helping your neighbors and so on but these people will never give me anything. And if I'm in it to feel better about myself, why not give money to someone poor nearby, who can praise my name, hug me and thank me for my incredible kindness? Giving money to Africans is just pointless, most of the money you give won't arrive to the people you intended anyway.

Gillipig wrote:They will never return my favors anyway, so why spend money on them when they won't give me anything in return? Isn't that just a bad investment? I get the point with helping your neighbors and so on but these people will never give me anything. And if I'm in it to feel better about myself, why not give money to someone poor nearby, who can praise my name, hug me and thank me for my incredible kindness? Giving money to Africans is just pointless, most of the money you give won't arrive to the people you intended anyway.

Truthfully, only you can answer that question for yourself. If there isn't enough reason for you to do so, then you shouldn't.

Gilpig makes these threads from time to time whenever he feels someone on the forums is starting to like him. Then he goes out and acts all uncaring just so that those who thought they liked him will be revolted by him instead. And then he feels better about himself.

Bollocks.

We have a built in morality meter that probably evolved to help our community. When you donate to Africans, it is just a supranormal stimulus to that morality meter. Ergo, I understand you, Gillipig. I care about the sex slaves in my hometown, less so in China.

listen to peter singer if you want a bunch of good reasons to donate to people in africa (although one could easily make the argument that donating to poor africans actually perpetuates suffering)

80% to the staff 20% to the poor. It is a good investment. For the 80%. So pay up and make yourself feel good like some sort of communal pride. Like recycling. Buy plastic~recycle~then have the recycling plants byproduct smoke go up in the ozone. Did we really save the earth? Who knows but it makes you feel fuzzy inside.

Serbia wrote:Gilpig makes these threads from time to time whenever he feels someone on the forums is starting to like him. Then he goes out and acts all uncaring just so that those who thought they liked him will be revolted by him instead. And then he feels better about himself.

Bollocks.

Stop liking me!!

Woodruff wrote:

Gillipig wrote:They will never return my favors anyway, so why spend money on them when they won't give me anything in return? Isn't that just a bad investment? I get the point with helping your neighbors and so on but these people will never give me anything. And if I'm in it to feel better about myself, why not give money to someone poor nearby, who can praise my name, hug me and thank me for my incredible kindness? Giving money to Africans is just pointless, most of the money you give won't arrive to the people you intended anyway.

Truthfully, only you can answer that question for yourself. If there isn't enough reason for you to do so, then you shouldn't.

Well, obviously I don't think there's enough reason for me to do so, but I'm also hinting that there should be no valid reason for others to do it either. Performing charity to people who will be able to reciprocate is just overall better, do you argue against that?

Gillipig wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Gillipig wrote:They will never return my favors anyway, so why spend money on them when they won't give me anything in return? Isn't that just a bad investment? I get the point with helping your neighbors and so on but these people will never give me anything. And if I'm in it to feel better about myself, why not give money to someone poor nearby, who can praise my name, hug me and thank me for my incredible kindness? Giving money to Africans is just pointless, most of the money you give won't arrive to the people you intended anyway.

Truthfully, only you can answer that question for yourself. If there isn't enough reason for you to do so, then you shouldn't.

Well, obviously I don't think there's enough reason for me to do so, but I'm also hinting that there should be no valid reason for others to do it either. Performing charity to people who will be able to reciprocate is just overall better, do you argue against that?

I wouldn't argue for or against it, because it just seems irrelevant. Why would it be relevant to "making it better" based on their ability to reciprocate? That sort of goes against the whole idea behind "charity".

Maybe you should become a microlender on Kiva. You can help loan some middling amounts to people around the globe (some countries in Africa included), and you'll get paid back over a 8-16 months. That way, you feel like you are helping, and you technically get everything returned. Years ago I put like a 100 dollars on a whim, and over those years I've loaned money out to some 25 people I think, and I've never not got it all back.


--Andy

The current budget request for Africa for fiscal 2014 is over $8 billion. That is a lot of tax payer money that I personally believe could be put to better use here at home.
http://foreignassistance.gov/CountryIntro.aspx

AndyDufresne wrote:Maybe you should become a microlender on Kiva. You can help loan some middling amounts to people around the globe (some countries in Africa included), and you'll get paid back over a 8-16 months. That way, you feel like you are helping, and you technically get everything returned. Years ago I put like a 100 dollars on a whim, and over those years I've loaned money out to some 25 people I think, and I've never not got it all back.

--Andy

+1 Simply because you can.

Neither a borrower nor a lender be

Hey Andy! Can I borrow some Saxi-bux? I'll pay it back....I swear......

(mmmppfffff)

AndyDufresne wrote:Maybe you should become a microlender on Kiva. You can help loan some middling amounts to people around the globe (some countries in Africa included), and you'll get paid back over a 8-16 months. That way, you feel like you are helping, and you technically get everything returned. Years ago I put like a 100 dollars on a whim, and over those years I've loaned money out to some 25 people I think, and I've never not got it all back.


--Andy

If I loan 100$ to a homeless person and he gives it back to me a couple of months later, I'm not sure he really needed the money. If the people you are talking about can pay back loans, they're not very poor at all.

Gillipig wrote:

AndyDufresne wrote:Maybe you should become a microlender on Kiva. You can help loan some middling amounts to people around the globe (some countries in Africa included), and you'll get paid back over a 8-16 months. That way, you feel like you are helping, and you technically get everything returned. Years ago I put like a 100 dollars on a whim, and over those years I've loaned money out to some 25 people I think, and I've never not got it all back.


--Andy

If I loan 100$ to a homeless person and he gives it back to me a couple of months later, I'm not sure he really needed the money. If the people you are talking about can pay back loans, they're not very poor at all.

They're often business people that need initial capital to purchase wholesale goods to sell. But I'm not going to try to convince you, since it doesn't sound like you are interested anyways.


--Andy

AndyDufresne wrote:

Gillipig wrote:

AndyDufresne wrote:Maybe you should become a microlender on Kiva. You can help loan some middling amounts to people around the globe (some countries in Africa included), and you'll get paid back over a 8-16 months. That way, you feel like you are helping, and you technically get everything returned. Years ago I put like a 100 dollars on a whim, and over those years I've loaned money out to some 25 people I think, and I've never not got it all back.


--Andy

If I loan 100$ to a homeless person and he gives it back to me a couple of months later, I'm not sure he really needed the money. If the people you are talking about can pay back loans, they're not very poor at all.

They're often business people that need initial capital to purchase wholesale goods to sell. But I'm not going to try to convince you, since it doesn't sound like you are interested anyways.


--Andy

Not your average starving African child with other words. If I'm left with the choice of either helping a homeless person in Sweden, or an African businessman, the choice is easy .

Gillipig wrote:Not your average starving African child with other words. If I'm left with the choice of either helping a homeless person in Sweden, or an African businessman, the choice is easy .

...so which one is the obvious choice again?

john9blue wrote:

Gillipig wrote:Not your average starving African child with other words. If I'm left with the choice of either helping a homeless person in Sweden, or an African businessman, the choice is easy .

...so which one is the obvious choice again?

Pancakes, obviously. I don't like waffles.














Stupid questions deserves stupid answers.

Gillipig wrote:Pancakes, obviously. I don't like waffles.


Stupid questions deserves stupid answers.

you're swedish and i don't know how dumb you are. so it's a legit question.

john9blue wrote:

Gillipig wrote:Pancakes, obviously. I don't like waffles.


Stupid questions deserves stupid answers.

you're swedish and i don't know how dumb you are. so it's a legit question.

I think your cupcake sized brain has reached it's maximum capacity Johnny, you should probably go have a lay down. Hopefully, when you wake up god will have realized how cruel he was and give you a larger brain.

Gillipig wrote:They will never return my favors anyway, so why spend money on them when they won't give me anything in return? Isn't that just a bad investment? I get the point with helping your neighbors and so on but these people will never give me anything. And if I'm in it to feel better about myself, why not give money to someone poor nearby, who can praise my name, hug me and thank me for my incredible kindness? Giving money to Africans is just pointless, most of the money you give won't arrive to the people you intended anyway.

Come on people can't you read? Reread his original post. Gillipig just want to buy a hug. So come on over Gilipig and I will give you a hug.

Gillipig wrote:I think your cupcake sized brain has reached it's maximum capacity Johnny, you should probably go have a lay down. Hopefully, when you wake up god will have realized how cruel he was and give you a larger brain.

why do eurofags rage so hard over the dumbest things?

or did symmetry hack your account?

i don't hand out my hard earned money to just anybody. i want to see that it gets spent the way i would spend it if i were the needy one. and that's usually not to some african kid listening to sarah mclachlan. oatmeal, grits and rice is fucking cheap. and it also goes a long way. if you're buying pop tarts with my money then you ain't hungry.

john9blue wrote:

Gillipig wrote:I think your cupcake sized brain has reached it's maximum capacity Johnny, you should probably go have a lay down. Hopefully, when you wake up god will have realized how cruel he was and give you a larger brain.

why do eurofags rage so hard over the dumbest things?

or did symmetry hack your account?

Are you the only homophobic american with a cupcake sized brain, or are there more of you? Too bad you guys didn't have concentration camps, your country actually might've needed to get rid of some slag.