Conquer Club

mookiemcgee wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 4:42 pm I don't think in my entire time on earth I've ever seen the year represented with a comma after the first digit.

mookiemcgee wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 4:42 pm I don't think in my entire time on earth I've ever seen the year represented with a comma after the first digit.

You know what they say...There's a 1st time for everything....I'd fix it, but nah....If you read the whole thing...You know why that happened... .....That....it's no secret....I drink a lot......A LOT A LOT...

November 8, 2025 Adoration

Message from Jesus

I tell you this, no stone shall be left unturned. All will know where they stand with me on the last day. No stone will be left on that day. All will lay bare in the sight of everyone. One must care and prepare, or be left unready to stand before me on that day. There is much that does not please me. Take care before that day comes.

Apatheist wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 10:38 am If there was a Jesus - and there was certainly something or someone that caused Christianity to come into existence - it's far more likely that his 2031st birthday was 6 months ago. This is based on other civilisations observing the comet that led to the "star of Bethlehem" fallacy. It's about time this cultish nonsense was binned to history, along with all the others.

The star that the wise men followed is often referred to as the "Star of Bethlehem."

Biblical Reference
The story is found in the Gospel of Matthew (Matthew 2:1-12), where it describes how the wise men, or Magi, followed the star to find the birthplace of Jesus.

Characteristics
The star is described as guiding the Magi from the East to Jerusalem and then to Bethlehem.
Its exact nature is debated; some interpretations suggest it could have been a celestial event, such as a conjunction of planets, a supernova, or a comet.

Cultural Impact
The Star of Bethlehem has become a symbol of guidance and hope in Christian tradition, often depicted in nativity scenes and Christmas celebrations.

Interpretations
Various theories exist regarding its astronomical basis, but no definitive explanation has been universally accepted.

jusplay4fun wrote: Thu Jan 01, 2026 7:46 am After my previous post on this matter, I read some more and I found good articles that suggest:

1) another theory or explanation for the Dec. 25 date for the birth of Christ, and

2) more recent astronomical data, recorded by the Chinese, that suggested a comet may BE the Star of Bethlehem.

I will caution everyone that both articles suggested that the data and the explanations are NOT CONCLUSIVE.

I also read an article of whether the Last Supper was a Sedar Supper or an ordinary Jewish Supper. This too was NOT CONCLUSIVE.

All three articles are very interesting.

Maxleod wrote: Thu Jan 01, 2026 7:52 am

jusplay4fun wrote: Thu Jan 01, 2026 7:46 am After my previous post on this matter, I read some more and I found good articles that suggest:

1) another theory or explanation for the Dec. 25 date for the birth of Christ, and

2) more recent astronomical data, recorded by the Chinese, that suggested a comet may BE the Star of Bethlehem.

I will caution everyone that both articles suggested that the data and the explanations are NOT CONCLUSIVE.

I also read an article of whether the Last Supper was a Sedar Supper or an ordinary Jewish Supper. This too was NOT CONCLUSIVE.

All three articles are very interesting.

Huh, what? Isn't it Venus?

The star is described as guiding the Magi from the East to Jerusalem and then to Bethlehem.
Its exact nature is debated; some interpretations suggest it could have been a celestial event, such as a conjunction of planets, a supernova, or a comet.

A comet is recorded in ancient Chinese records, seen in 5 BCE. That comet was flagged as a potential Star of Bethlehem in the late 1990s, with the Chinese observations noting the comet was visible for more than 70 days.

Recently, the idea that the comet of 5 BCE could have been the Christmas Star has leapt back into focus, thanks to research that suggests the comet of 5 BCE followed an unusual path through the inner solar system, and made a remarkably close approach to Earth. In that scenario, the comet would have appeared almost stationary in the sky for a lengthy period of time—all the hallmarks of the star from the Nativity.

None of the explanations put forward to date seem to perfectly match the story passed down through the centuries.

Most Biblical scholars agree Jesus was born between 6 and 4 BCE. It's not known what time of year he was born, but those scholars suggest it was most likely in April or May.

The choice of December 25 to celebrate Jesus' birth came centuries later, and is tied to the date of the winter solstice in the Roman calendar, when the northern hemisphere experiences its shortest day.