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A Romanian immigrant brutally raped a young woman on a railway station so he could be sent to prison for a bed, food and English lessons at the same jail as his brother.

Ali Majlat, who has a string of convictions in his home country and the UK, punched, kicked and dragged his 21-year-old victim along the ground as she waited for a train home after seeing friends.

She briefly escaped his clutches but he caught up with her in an underpass at Wakefield Kirkgate station in West Yorkshire and subjected her to a sustained attack which was captured on CCTV.

He then stole her mobile phone, purse and a bracelet before fleeing. When he was caught five days later he admitted his guilt and claimed he did it so he would end up in jail.

‘When I was on the railway station I thought I should rape this lady in order to get a place to eat and sleep and learn the English language,’ he told a psychologist.

His bizarre explanation for the attack
emerged at Leeds Crown Court on Monday when Majlat pleaded guilty to rape and robbery.

On hearing it, Judge Alistair McCallum was so surprised that he asked the defence barrister to repeat it to be sure he had heard correctly.

Hours before the attack Majlat had tried to visit his brother in Wakefield prison where he is serving a jail term for rape and attempted murder. However, he was turned away because he did not have the correct paperwork.

The 35-year-old later told police that he attacked the girl in the hope he would be sent to the same prison as his brother.

‘All he seems concerned about is being in the same jail as his brother,’ a police source said. ‘When he was told that he would be deported after his sentence, he seemed horrified.

‘He doesn’t want to go back to Romania. He just wants to stay in a British jail.’

Majlat, who is on remand in Leeds prison, entered the UK shortly after being released from a Romanian jail last June after serving time for theft and attempted robbery.

In September he was jailed for eight weeks by Horseferry Road magistrates in London for burglary. But he was not deported after being freed because he was not deemed ‘high risk’.

Convicts from the European Economic Area - members of the EU, plus Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein and Switzerland - can be removed only if they are highly likely to reoffend and if they present a ‘sufficiently serious threat’.

During the case, Judge McCallum demanded to know what procedures there were to stop criminals entering the country. EU citizens with a valid passport can travel to Britain without prior warning.

Even in cases where officials are aware of serious convictions, visitors cannot automatically be turned away.

After raping his victim at 8.30pm on October 12 last year, Majlat fled to London. But police were able to track him down to a homeless hostel because he was still using his victim’s mobile phone.

He was closely examined by doctors and psychologists, who insisted he was sane. During the court hearing, Judge McCallum said he was considering imposing a life sentence.

He asked the Crown Prosecution Service to investigate Majlat’s criminal history in Romania, particularly sexual offences, before he sentences him on April 6.

After the hearing, Detective Superintendent Dave Shipperlee, of British Transport Police, said: ‘This was a violent and sustained attack on a young woman who must have been absolutely terrified.’

Last month the Tories revealed that an estimated 3,000 foreign criminals were released without being deported last year.

Neoteny wrote:He should have had a gun.

GabonX wrote:

Neoteny wrote:He should have had a gun.

You're stupid.

If he wanted to kill her he could have as it was. If she had a gun and he didn't she would have been safe. If they both had guns it's the flip of a coin but in a society which encourages the empowerment of the inidividual such crimes are less likely to take place.

The violent crime rate in the UK is more than double what it is in the US.
http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2007/01/cr ... in-us.html

The use of guns in crimes comitted in the UK has almost doubled since the 1997 ban on hand guns went into effect in 1997.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 317307.ece

joecoolfrog wrote:

GabonX wrote:

Neoteny wrote:He should have had a gun.

You're stupid.

If he wanted to kill her he could have as it was. If she had a gun and he didn't she would have been safe. If they both had guns it's the flip of a coin but in a society which encourages the empowerment of the inidividual such crimes are less likely to take place.

The violent crime rate in the UK is more than double what it is in the US.
http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2007/01/cr ... in-us.html

The use of guns in crimes comitted in the UK has almost doubled since the 1997 ban on hand guns went into effect in 1997.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 317307.ece

Almost 30.000 death guns every year in the USA.......I simply dont understand why more countries dont follow the fine example you set

joecoolfrog wrote:

GabonX wrote:

Neoteny wrote:He should have had a gun.

You're stupid.

If he wanted to kill her he could have as it was. If she had a gun and he didn't she would have been safe. If they both had guns it's the flip of a coin but in a society which encourages the empowerment of the inidividual such crimes are less likely to take place.

The violent crime rate in the UK is more than double what it is in the US.
http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2007/01/cr ... in-us.html

The use of guns in crimes comitted in the UK has almost doubled since the 1997 ban on hand guns went into effect in 1997.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 317307.ece

Almost 30.000 death guns every year in the USA.......I simply dont understand why more countries dont follow the fine example you set

Napoleon Ier wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:

GabonX wrote:

Neoteny wrote:He should have had a gun.

You're stupid.

If he wanted to kill her he could have as it was. If she had a gun and he didn't she would have been safe. If they both had guns it's the flip of a coin but in a society which encourages the empowerment of the inidividual such crimes are less likely to take place.

The violent crime rate in the UK is more than double what it is in the US.
http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2007/01/cr ... in-us.html

The use of guns in crimes comitted in the UK has almost doubled since the 1997 ban on hand guns went into effect in 1997.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 317307.ece

Almost 30.000 death guns every year in the USA.......I simply dont understand why more countries dont follow the fine example you set

Not only is 30.000 gun deaths a number you pulled out of your arse, but 55% of all US gun deaths are in fact, suicides.

GabonX wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:

GabonX wrote:

Neoteny wrote:He should have had a gun.

You're stupid.

If he wanted to kill her he could have as it was. If she had a gun and he didn't she would have been safe. If they both had guns it's the flip of a coin but in a society which encourages the empowerment of the inidividual such crimes are less likely to take place.

The violent crime rate in the UK is more than double what it is in the US.
http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2007/01/cr ... in-us.html

The use of guns in crimes comitted in the UK has almost doubled since the 1997 ban on hand guns went into effect in 1997.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 317307.ece

Almost 30.000 death guns every year in the USA.......I simply dont understand why more countries dont follow the fine example you set

Making claims without backing them up with a source, particularly on the enternet where it takes about two seconds to get one, leaves you with no credibility. Even if your figure is true, which it probably isn't, 30,000 deaths out of a population of 300,000,000 people means that there is one gun related death for every 100,000 people. This is not an outrageous figure by any stretch of the imagination. Throw in the fact that most of those deaths are concentrated in very specific geographic locations where gang violence is prevalent and it actually looks pretty good.

There is a Universal trend in every state which has enacted laws which allow people to carry fire arms whereby the violent crime rate drops. Murder, assault and rape all drop. To the contrary violent crime rose in the UK and in Australia after they enacted their bans with gun violence nearly doubling in the UK after they made hand guns illegal
You can deny the facts all you want but that leaves you in a state of uninformed denial.

joecoolfrog wrote:

GabonX wrote:

joecoolfrog wrote:

GabonX wrote:

Neoteny wrote:He should have had a gun.

You're stupid.

If he wanted to kill her he could have as it was. If she had a gun and he didn't she would have been safe. If they both had guns it's the flip of a coin but in a society which encourages the empowerment of the inidividual such crimes are less likely to take place.

The violent crime rate in the UK is more than double what it is in the US.
http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2007/01/cr ... in-us.html

The use of guns in crimes comitted in the UK has almost doubled since the 1997 ban on hand guns went into effect in 1997.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 317307.ece

Almost 30.000 death guns every year in the USA.......I simply dont understand why more countries dont follow the fine example you set

Making claims without backing them up with a source, particularly on the enternet where it takes about two seconds to get one, leaves you with no credibility. Even if your figure is true, which it probably isn't, 30,000 deaths out of a population of 300,000,000 people means that there is one gun related death for every 100,000 people. This is not an outrageous figure by any stretch of the imagination. Throw in the fact that most of those deaths are concentrated in very specific geographic locations where gang violence is prevalent and it actually looks pretty good.

There is a Universal trend in every state which has enacted laws which allow people to carry fire arms whereby the violent crime rate drops. Murder, assault and rape all drop. To the contrary violent crime rose in the UK and in Australia after they enacted their bans with gun violence nearly doubling in the UK after they made hand guns illegal
You can deny the facts all you want but that leaves you in a state of uninformed denial.

I posted the link ( from the US gov ) the last time we had this conversation and your response was to run away from the debate - lifes too short to waste time duplicating ones efforts for bigoted clowns

nagerous wrote:Anyone who uses the daily mail as a reference should never be taken seriously.

GabonX wrote:. 30,000 deaths out of a population of 300,000,000 people means that there is one gun related death for every 100,000 people.

Serbia wrote:55% are suicides
Second fact down says the same...
was a Time story, but the page has expired

The information was last available in 2005, but the data backs Nappy up.

GabonX wrote:

nagerous wrote:Anyone who uses the daily mail as a reference should never be taken seriously.

Good one

nagerous wrote:

GabonX wrote:

nagerous wrote:Anyone who uses the daily mail as a reference should never be taken seriously.

Good one

You're American, spend some time in the UK and you will understand what I mean.

Anyway, thanks for another inciteful thread Gabon.

One immigrant rapes a girl, so all immigrants are bad ? Is that the message you are saying?? The majority of rapists are born and bred in their home countries..