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Mapmakers Guild [Social]

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:57 am
by john9blue
MAPMAKERS GUILD

Aspiring mapmakers can get overwhelmed with the task of creating a map all by themselves. Others just don't have time to keep updating a map with every detail requested by the Foundry. Still others don't have access to a good image editing program, or do not know how to start.

If you are interested in being a part of map creation, without the responsibility of an entire map hanging over your head, this is the group for you! We are a collection of part-time cartographers who will work together to produce some of the most mind-blowing maps that Conquer Club has ever seen. Our goal is to be, essentially, the Foundry equivalent of The Society Of The Cooks. We make it easy to get involved in map making by getting your feet wet, without jumping into the Foundry headfirst.

To join this group, go to Control Panel - Usergroups - Mapmakers Guild, select it, and click "Join selected" at the bottom. It may take over a week to approve you, so be patient. Membership requires the approval of pork and me, which you'll get as long as you aren't a complete jerk. ;)

The rules of the group and the reasons for its creation are detailed below.

[spoiler=Rules]Our goal is to produce quality maps as a team. We strive to be open to any new ideas and supportive of the maps that we are producing. Each member can contribute as much or as little as they want. Knowledge of an advanced image editor such as Photoshop, Fireworks, or GIMP is helpful but not required. XML programming is also a useful skill.

If you already have a map in the Foundry and you came here for help, start a new topic in the Guild with a link to your Foundry topic and explain what you need help with. We have members who are experienced with image editing, XML, and all other parts of the map making process.

If you have come up with a new map idea, start a new topic in the Guild. The first post should explain the premise behind your map, and highlight any unique gameplay features. A Rough Draft of the map is preferable but not required. Your goal is to find several members (4 to 8 people or so) who will work on the map with you as it goes through the Foundry. Make sure that at least one of these people is an artist who is skilled at advanced image editing. If you are interested in helping someone create a map, let them know by posting in the topic or sending them a PM.

Once you have assembled a team, your next step is to create a First Draft. This is the first test of teamwork, so make sure that everyone gets along, everything runs smoothly, and so on. If there is more than one artist in the group, make sure they can send files to each other using e-mail, MediaFire, or another method. To post images, use an image hosting site like ImageShack or TinyImg.

Once the First Draft is completed, it's time to start the Foundry process! Many people start here from scratch, but you have the added support of your team as well as a First Draft already completed. At this point, the Guild has served its purpose, so the head of the team should start a new topic in the Drafting Room and post the premise, unique gameplay, and First Draft. Make sure to give credit to each member involved in the project, and list who the artists (or artists) are.

From here you will receive suggestions from the Foundry folks. A key to being successful in the Foundry is addressing each suggestion people make, either accepting it or explaining why it's not a good idea. The artists should make a new draft every few weeks (at minimum) if there are changes to be made.

The Foundry, as its name suggests, is a strenuous process. Some maps can take over a year to be produced. If your map loses support and dies, don’t be upset- the majority of ideas never make it out of The Drafting Room. But, if your map makes it all the way through and gets quenched, congratulations! Your creation will be enjoyed for hours by thousands of players. 8-)[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Reasons]As some of you may know, a group of this name was created a short while ago, which has since changed its name to "The Map Machine". Porkenbeans originally had the idea; he PM'ed me (we are working on a map together) and I expressed interest. Eventually 10-12 people or so who were interested were brought together. Pork put a certain Sailor in charge of organization of the group, although pork still retained leadership. This was a mistake. Sailor proceeded to make the usergroup, give himself leadership, and demand that all new threads must receive his approval. In the meantime, he set up an inefficient system which essentially gave him control over which maps would be made and which maps wouldn't. An election thread was started by Rocketry without sailor's permission; because he was an illegitimate leader, we felt that we needed a new one. Sailor proceeded to kick pork, me, and Rocketry out of the group, despite the fact that we had contributed ideas (one of the two maps that sailor and his friend were working on was Rocketry's idea, I believe). A few people had expressed interest in me becoming the new leader, which is why I am starting this thread. The old group is inefficient, disorganized, and is not headed anywhere. It's time to start over.[/spoiler]

Post here if you are interested in becoming a founding member of our new group.

Current members:
- john9blue (leader)
- porkenbeans (leader)
- qwert
- FireStar
- cairnswk
- Mr Changsha
- cena-rules
- Rocketry
- scorpion86
- a.sub
- bryguy
- fishydance
- Natewolfman
- karelpietertje
- captainwalrus
- InsomniaRed
- naxus
- killerpit4e
- Merker
- The Neon Peon
- GrimReaper.
- God Emperor Q
- JP007
- miniwally
- psychobkrazy
- neanderpaul14
- ustus
- Bobafet1
- thRett
- Jace22
- colton24
- rdsrds2120
- Scania N113

Full member list

The E-ticket was sent on 4/4/09.

The E-ticket's revenge was sent on 4/23/09.

So what are you waiting for? Join today and leave your mark on some of Conquer Club's best maps! 8-)

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:34 am
by Kotaro
Good luck mate. Finally glad to see a solid map making clan come together

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:32 pm
by bryguy
Im interested :)

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:16 pm
by Rocketry
Count me in!

However... can we please change the name. I guess we cant use "The Map Machine" now but lets think of something other than "The Map Factory"...

Rocket.

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:41 pm
by cena-rules
Im in

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:49 pm
by porkenbeans
Rocketry wrote:Count me in!

However... can we please change the name. I guess we cant use "The Map Machine" now but lets think of something other than "The Map Factory"...

Rocket.
The Map Machine is a good moniker, but it is NOT as descriptive as, The Map Factory. ;)

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:57 pm
by Rocketry
porkenbeans wrote:
Rocketry wrote:Count me in!

However... can we please change the name. I guess we cant use "The Map Machine" now but lets think of something other than "The Map Factory"...

Rocket.
The Map Machine is a good moniker, but it is NOT as descriptive as, The Map Factory. ;)


Ha fine, I'll try and think of something thats both descriptive AND catchy.

Rocket.

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:44 pm
by FireStar
'd like to get involved with map making... this sounds like a good way...

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:51 pm
by psychobkrazy
I am/was a member of the old group and would like in this one please.

Also, I run a social group called Medal Heads, it all about getting your medals in CC. I put a link in our forum to this recruitment thread for anyone that is looking for a map group.

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:21 pm
by killerpit4e
john9blue wrote:THE MAP FACTORY

Aspiring mapmakers can get overwhelmed with the task of creating a map all by themselves. Others just don't have time to keep updating a map with every detail requested by the Foundry. Still others don't have access to a good image editing program, or do not know how to start.

If you are interested in being a part of map creation, without the responsibility of an entire map hanging over your head, this is the group for you! We are a collection of part-time cartographers who will work together to produce some of the most mind-blowing maps that Conquer Club has ever seen. Our goal is to be, essentially, the Foundry equivalent of The Society Of The Cooks. We make it easy to get involved in map making by getting your feet wet, without jumping into the Foundry headfirst.

The rules of the group and the reasons for its creation are detailed below.

[spoiler=Rules]Any member can start a thread detailing their idea for a new map. The only requirement is that you provide an initial "bare bones" rough draft. It doesn't have to be good... it can even be made in MS Paint. However, it does need to show territories, bonuses, continents, and anything else you want to include.

The map progresses like this: any eight members who thinks the draft is a good idea (including the original poster) will volunteer to work on that draft. However, at least two people have to have a good knowledge of Photoshop- we need people to draw the map! These people are the cartographers who will draw the first draft and send the PSD file amongst themselves, so they are all working on the exact same map.

Once eight people volunteer, the discussion will begin and the cartographers will begin making their first draft. After six out of the eight volunteers approve of the cartographers' draft (including the original poster), the map is posted to the Drafting Room in the Map Foundry by one of the cartographers. There, it will receive comments from the Foundry folks. Every suggestion that they make should be discussed among the volunteers, and either implemented or dismissed for a reason. Any member is welcome to post in the Foundry thread- in fact, you probably should, if that's a map you're working on! Make sure to keep the Foundry folks updated on your progress.

The vast majority of maps lose support and die during the rigorous Foundry process. If your map makes it all the way through the Foundry- congratulations! You've left your mark on a map that thousands of people will enjoy for years to come. Each member that contributed will be recognized somehow right there on the map itself (it is still to be decided how that will be done), and the member who originally had the map idea will get a shiny Map Contribution Medal for their collection.

Note that these rules aren't set in stone. I'm open to any input you guys have.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Reasons]As some of you may know, a group of this name was created a short while ago, which has since changed its name to "The Map Machine". Porkenbeans originally had the idea; he PM'ed me (we are working on a map together) and I expressed interest. Eventually 10-12 people or so who were interested were brought together. Pork put sailorseal in charge of organization of the group, although pork still retained leadership. This was a mistake. Sailor proceeded to make the usergroup, give himself leadership, and demand that all new threads must receive his approval. In the meantime, he set up an inefficient system which essentially gave him control over which maps would be made and which maps wouldn't. An election thread was started by Rocketry without sailor's permission; because he was an illegitimate leader, we felt that we needed a new one. Sailor proceeded to kick pork, me, and Rocketry out of the group, despite the fact that we had contributed ideas (one of the two maps that sailor and his friend were working on was Rocketry's idea, I believe). A few people had expressed interest in me becoming the new leader, which is why I am starting this thread. The old group is inefficient, disorganized, and is not headed anywhere. It's time to start over.[/spoiler]

Post here if you are interested in becoming a founding member of our new group.

So what are you waiting for? Join today and leave your mark on some of Conquer Club's best maps! 8-)


i am in

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:25 pm
by God Emperor Q
im in, i need help with a map i tried to develop.
viewtopic.php?f=63&t=62748&p=1576611#p1576611
lmao EPIC FAILURE

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:44 pm
by Rocketry
God Emperor Q wrote:im in, i need help with a map i tried to develop.
viewtopic.php?f=63&t=62748&p=1576611#p1576611
lmao EPIC FAILURE


Ha wow. You'll be most welcome in the group. Im sure there will be an ideas thread (called "The Great Mind Map" where you can post that.

Rocket.

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:22 pm
by miniwally
i'm in again :D i prefer your idea john to sailor the society of cooks but with maps this will be interesting :D

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:50 pm
by ustus
I'm interested in transferring here from the sinking ship you all jumped off. Just a warning, if this one falls apart like the last one did, i'll just drop off the radar entirely and go back to hanging out in the foundry. good luck!

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:33 pm
by sailorseal
Please remove my name from this thread, in your post, you can't talk about me ;)

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:15 am
by Natewolfman
I have zero graphical talent, but tons of ideas, just need some GFX designers :lol: sign me up

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:32 am
by scorpion86
sign me up

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:50 am
by Mr Changsha
sign me up, again...

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:55 am
by Kotaro
sailorseal wrote:Please remove my name from this thread, in your post, you can't talk about me ;)


please state in the rules where they can't post your name? or perhaps a link to where we can find the copyright you hold on your name?

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:35 pm
by john9blue
All right, so the current members are:

- john9blue (leader)
- porkenbeans (leader)
- bryguy
- Rocketry
- cena-rules
- FireStar
- psychobkrazy
- killerpit4e
- God Emperor Q
- miniwally
- ustus
- Natewolfman
- scorpion86
- Mr Changsha

Thank you all for the great response! Soon I'm going to send in the e-ticket for the group. Once it's started, the membership will be by invite only, where you will have to request to join the group to be let in. Sorry, but we need a way to control spammers and multis (there have been a lot of those lately). ;)

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:38 pm
by The Neon Peon
Ah, this clan makes a lot more sense now. thanks for the explanation of what the clan is actually about.

(sorry for posting without interest in joining)

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:05 pm
by fishydance
Add me to this group, please.

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:06 pm
by GrimReaper.
im learning photo shop and am OK at XML so i would like to join.

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:25 pm
by john9blue
I sent in the e-ticket with the members in the first post included. Fishy, Grim, when the forum is up I'll let you guys know so you can apply to get in. :)

Re: The Map Factory

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:00 pm
by GrimReaper.
thx i joined this one because we dont have a ruler with an iron fist