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Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:02 am
by a.sub
st a poll to get the opinion of the public
please avoid getting this locked
but at the same time post to keep it afloat

-A.Sub
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:14 am
by apey
I do miss it
It can be fun to read through
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:10 am
by kiddicus maximus
We have no say in the revival/death of Flame Wars. Management seems to be heading in a less confrontational direction and removed it for the duration.
I see no need for the forum, though keeping people from attacking each other is going to be difficult. The mods seem to be keeping up well though, and even I received a love-note from clapper011 for something I wrote.
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:13 am
by GENERAL STONEHAM
FLAME WARS must be brought back!
mod edit
Warning-warning-warning, don't call anyone "pointed ear alien," you'll get a warning by "Night Strike." Don't call a French-Canadian a "FRENCHIE," after some uneducated idiot insulted Americans. Yes, this has happened to me.
Bring back our FREEDOMS of FREE SPEECH and FREE EXPRESSIONS to slam our fellow players and bad Moderators.
mod edit
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:55 am
by Bones2484
Freedom of speech is not protected by the Constitution on private website forums.
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:58 am
by mpjh
Actually, nothing is stopping those that desire to flame from starting their own site, or joining an adult site, and flaming away to their little red hearts content. So there is freedom of speech.
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:12 am
by jiminski
Freedom of speech is a total red-herring.
This is about the willingness of the site to ignore the views and wishes of its members in every case.
Classic Map - Gone! without care for our views or viable alternative
Feedback - Gone! with consultation after the fact and by mistake via a rogue and now sacked mod (heh i am genuinely not putting the two things together)
Spamalot - Gone - brought back under a hail of dissent! *
Flamewars - Gone! under a Pink cloud made of sniggerring bunnies
It is very much within the remit of the site to do exactly what it wants without discussion - might is right! It can do what it wants and i do not argue against its right to do so.
But if you consistently piss-off your customer-base it will gradually leave. I am only here as some silly bugger kindly bought me a premium against my advice
* if they are willing to do it, who is to say they will not eventually do it to you!?
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:32 am
by GENERAL STONEHAM
Bones2484 wrote:Freedom of speech is not protected by the Constitution on private website forums.
You're right, FREEDOM of SPEECH is NOT guaranteed on forums like this.
What we want is to be able to have a thread, where we can voice our outrage at players and even about moderators who seem too sensitive to criticism.
The way things are now, we can have a particular moderator who uses his authority to pass his own agenda or hatred for specific players and posters. So, where do we go from here then? Just be silent? Ask for a refund of our premium payment?
There's something called customer service and now the last vistages of it is being left to those moderators who may have an axe to grind or a political philosophy that may be offensive to some of us.
Night Strike can edit this and edit that to hide the harmless rants I have said. That's his perogative and power that he uses.
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:37 am
by mpjh
jiminski wrote:Freedom of speech is a total red-herring.
This is about the willingness of the site to ignore the views and wishes of its members in every case.
Classic Map - Gone! without care for our views or viable alternative
Feedback - Gone! with consultation after the fact and by mistake via a rogue and now sacked mod (heh i am genuinely not putting the two things together)
Spamalot - Gone - brought back under a hail of dissent! *
Flamewars - Gone! under a Pink cloud made of sniggerring bunnies
It is very much within the remit of the site to do exactly what it wants without discussion - might is right! It can do what it wants and i do not argue against its right to do so.
But if you consistently piss-off your customer-base it will gradually leave. I am only here as some silly bugger kindly bought me a premium against my advice
* if they are willing to do it, who is to say they will not eventually do it to you!?
OK, do what all dissatisfied customers have a right to do. Leave.
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:37 am
by The Neon Peon
GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:What we want is to be able to have a thread, where we can voice our outrage at players and even about moderators who seem too sensitive to criticism.
If that is what you want, then make a usergroup
.
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:43 am
by GENERAL STONEHAM
mpjh wrote:jiminski wrote:Freedom of speech is a total red-herring.
This is about the willingness of the site to ignore the views and wishes of its members in every case.
Classic Map - Gone! without care for our views or viable alternative
Feedback - Gone! with consultation after the fact and by mistake via a rogue and now sacked mod (heh i am genuinely not putting the two things together)
Spamalot - Gone - brought back under a hail of dissent! *
Flamewars - Gone! under a Pink cloud made of sniggerring bunnies
It is very much within the remit of the site to do exactly what it wants without discussion - might is right! It can do what it wants and i do not argue against its right to do so.
But if you consistently piss-off your customer-base it will gradually leave. I am only here as some silly bugger kindly bought me a premium against my advice
* if they are willing to do it, who is to say they will not eventually do it to you!?
OK, do what all dissatisfied customers have a right to do. Leave.
I'm sorry, I'll take back that comment I made about "airheads."
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:45 am
by GENERAL STONEHAM
The Neon Peon wrote:GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:What we want is to be able to have a thread, where we can voice our outrage at players and even about moderators who seem too sensitive to criticism.
If that is what you want, then make a usergroup
.
We don't want a "usergroup," we want FLAME WARS back!
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:48 am
by mpjh
Tell me, are you lying on the floor slamming your heels against the floor and swinging you arm about as you scream that?
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:51 am
by hwhrhett
GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:The Neon Peon wrote:GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:What we want is to be able to have a thread, where we can voice our outrage at players and even about moderators who seem too sensitive to criticism.
If that is what you want, then make a usergroup
.
We don't want a "usergroup," we want FLAME WARS back!
translation: i dont want what im demanding, i only want to demand it.
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:53 am
by Optimus Prime
GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:The Neon Peon wrote:GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:What we want is to be able to have a thread, where we can voice our outrage at players and even about moderators who seem too sensitive to criticism.
If that is what you want, then make a usergroup
.
We don't want a "usergroup," we want FLAME WARS back!
Well, GENERAL STONEHAM, that is not going to happen. It doesn't matter how much you stomp your feet or raise your voice, Flame Wars is gone for good. The atmosphere as well as the encouragement it provided for trolls and abusive users is not worth having continue. It really
is that simple.
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:53 am
by GENERAL STONEHAM
mpjh wrote:Tell me, are you lying on the floor slamming your heels against the floor and swinging you arm about as you scream that?
Wow, you must be sleeping with a MODERATOR, I have received multiple warnings in less than 24 hours for less.
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:54 am
by mpjh
I wish, can you put in a word with insomniared for me?
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:03 am
by GENERAL STONEHAM
mpjh wrote:I wish, can you put in a word with insomniared for me?
Either way, I'm not going to respond to any more of your awe inspiring drivel. Cause, I might get banned.
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:05 am
by The Neon Peon
GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:mpjh wrote:I wish, can you put in a word with insomniared for me?
insomniared? Sorry don't speak that language. I'm finished with your
rambling nonsense.
Is it your school system that failed you?
Either way, I'm not going to respond to any more of your
awe inspiring drivel. Cause, I might get banned.
And you wonder why you get banned?
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:06 am
by mpjh
Martha Stewart to that.
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:29 am
by a.sub
mpjh wrote:I wish, can you put in a word with insomniared for me?
mpjh 1
Gen. Stone 0
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:17 pm
by clapper011
as many others have said, Yes we are all paying customers to some extent, but the forums as well as live chat are bonuses to what you are actually paying for. And as bonuses can be taken away at any given moment, without notice from this sites owner. With that said this is as follows what you are paying for when you buy your premium membership from conquerclub website.:
It is not easy to develop and maintain an online game like Conquer Club. Hundreds of hours must be spent programming, and dollars must be spent on web hosting, support staff, gourmet peanut butter and other expenses. Please support Conquer Club by upgrading to Premium Membership. It costs only $25 USD per year.
In return for your support, Premium Membership earns you the following benefits:
* Play UNLIMITED simultaneous games
* Play thrilling real-time SPEED games
* Create password-protected PRIVATE games (which Free members may join, too)
* Have a GOLDEN rank icon display next to your name
* Feel that WARM and FUZZY feeling you get from supporting a website that you love
have a great day
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:39 pm
by jiminski
clapper011 wrote:as many others have said, Yes we are all paying customers to some extent, but the forums as well as live chat are bonuses to what you are actually paying for. And as bonuses can be taken away at any given moment, without notice from this sites owner. With that said this is as follows what you are paying for when you buy your premium membership from conquerclub website.:
It is not easy to develop and maintain an online game like Conquer Club. Hundreds of hours must be spent programming, and dollars must be spent on web hosting, support staff, gourmet peanut butter and other expenses. Please support Conquer Club by upgrading to Premium Membership. It costs only $25 USD per year.
In return for your support, Premium Membership earns you the following benefits:
* Play UNLIMITED simultaneous games
* Play thrilling real-time SPEED games
* Create password-protected PRIVATE games (which Free members may join, too)
* Have a GOLDEN rank icon display next to your name
* Feel that WARM and FUZZY feeling you get from supporting a website that you love
have a great day
*The maps and dice are a bonus too - they could take away all the graphics, replacing them with cubes with numbers on and random geometric shapes where countries once were!.. hang on a minute!
But most of all and relevant to the line which reads:
* Feel that WARM and FUZZY feeling you get from supporting a website that you love
- is a bonus.
The site should remember that it receives the bonus of our financial support!
But more, it receives Slave labour, bought off with the putrid offer of mod'ships, in the very forums which you call bonus's to us! it is all fanciful stuff.
Our Artists and Script genii create the best part of this bloody place and for nothing! And for no stake in its future and apparently no right even to moan when it is changed without discussion or debate*. .. The flamewars disgrace was even passed off as a joke!
Well that is a joke and one in very poor taste!
*It is likely that all the artists and scripters will breathe a sigh of satisfaction on mass that this place is better now without a vying and poisonous forum! Fair enough, that is the calculation which the site makes but what about when it changes something you care about with no thought of your opinion?
Anyway, I no longer care about the future character of this place. No loss for either of us i am sure.
Have a sin-free Day!
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:48 pm
by clapper011
Re: Should we revive the Flame wars?
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:48 pm
by mpjh
People voted with their feet. The difference in the number of people that play games and those that participated in FW was enormous. Games won.