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A lot of religious debate with both the athiests and the christians pushing their points of views. Yes I do view believing that there is no god as an act of faith. Since there is no proof that there is or isn't a god, the true thinkers out there would with holdjudgement like myself. Seems to me that a lot of people are thinking with their emotions. The logical choice for those with an IQ anything above a drug dependant gerbil is been an agnostic.

There is no proof of the existance of a god/gods, there is no proof of the non existance of a god/gods. Therefor I will keep an open mind. People like to be sheep and share common irrational belief with others that is why the choose god or no god. QED believers are mindless sheep.

Howl all you want lame brains. Prove your point, or just accept your need to belong to a flock of mouth breathing conformists.

Yeah, I think I'll have some hashbrowns, eggs and beans.

2dimes wrote:Yeah, I think I'll have some hashbrowns, eggs and beans.

spam

No, I might have some turkey bacon, no spam for sure. We don't even have any in the house.

So it seems you don't want to hear my true story then?

She just brought it out. Turkey bacon and toast, no spam what so ever.

2dimes wrote:She just brought it out. Turkey bacon and toast, no spam what so ever.

spamming troll, is everyone else to gutless to comment, is the community going to leave this thread to a silly little mouth breather that is only thinking about his next meal? Shame on you all, and the 2bit troll in particular

BoganGod wrote:Seems to me that a lot of people are thinking with their emotions.

Agreed

BoganGod wrote:Howl all you want lame brains. Prove your point, or just accept your need to belong to a flock of mouth breathing conformists.

Gosh, I don't know what could have went wrong. One would think your thread would be irresistable as a place for some friendly discussion where people would happily share their deepest intamacies regarding their beliefs that can't be proven.

BoganGod wrote:

2dimes wrote:She just brought it out. Turkey bacon and toast, no spam what so ever.

spamming troll, is everyone else to gutless to comment, is the community going to leave this thread to a silly little mouth breather that is only thinking about his next meal? Shame on you all, and the 2bit troll in particular

Just because you can not know something with certainty, throwing your hands up and saying you don't know is hardly logical. I am agnostic about god(s) the same way I'm agnostic about wizards. While they could exist, I see no evidence to indicate that is a valid possibility and don't believe in them. This may seem offensive, but that is just how I came to my conclusion.

What is it that causes you to doubt the existance of wizards?

2dimes wrote:What is it that causes you to doubt the existance of wizards?

J. K. Rowling raped me when I was little.

Frigidus wrote:

BoganGod wrote:

2dimes wrote:She just brought it out. Turkey bacon and toast, no spam what so ever.

spamming troll, is everyone else to gutless to comment, is the community going to leave this thread to a silly little mouth breather that is only thinking about his next meal? Shame on you all, and the 2bit troll in particular

Just because you can not know something with certainty, throwing your hands up and saying you don't know is hardly logical. I am agnostic about god(s) the same way I'm agnostic about wizards. While they could exist, I see no evidence to indicate that is a valid possibility and don't believe in them. This may seem offensive, but that is just how I came to my conclusion.

Sorry to split hairs here, I'm not saying I can't know, I'm saying when I know beyond all doubt I will make a decision. I hold onto the forlorn hope that proof may emerge in my lifetime........

Frigidus wrote:

2dimes wrote:What is it that causes you to doubt the existance of wizards?

J. K. Rowling raped me when I was little.

Lucky! I

must have been in mouth breathing troll mode when I wrote the first question.

What I'm meaning to get at is that I suspect it's not the wizards you are having difficulty in believing in so much as the concept of their portrail in movies. I don't see a reason to doubt there has been wizards but I understand and agree with your doubts of their abilities to fly and change forms etc.

2dimes wrote:

Frigidus wrote:

2dimes wrote:What is it that causes you to doubt the existance of wizards?

J. K. Rowling raped me when I was little.

Lucky! I

must have been in mouth breathing troll mode when I wrote the first question.

What I'm meaning to get at is that I suspect it's not the wizards you are having difficulty in believing in so much as the concept of their portrail in movies. I don't see a reason to doubt there has been wizards but I understand and agree with your doubts of their abilities to fly and change forms etc.

I honestly am not sure if you're kidding at the moment (probably...maybe?)

I see no reason to believe in magic of any form. It is highly improbable.

BoganGod wrote:

Frigidus wrote:

BoganGod wrote:

2dimes wrote:She just brought it out. Turkey bacon and toast, no spam what so ever.

spamming troll, is everyone else to gutless to comment, is the community going to leave this thread to a silly little mouth breather that is only thinking about his next meal? Shame on you all, and the 2bit troll in particular

Just because you can not know something with certainty, throwing your hands up and saying you don't know is hardly logical. I am agnostic about god(s) the same way I'm agnostic about wizards. While they could exist, I see no evidence to indicate that is a valid possibility and don't believe in them. This may seem offensive, but that is just how I came to my conclusion.

Sorry to split hairs here, I'm not saying I can't know, I'm saying when I know beyond all doubt I will make a decision. I hold onto the forlorn hope that proof may emerge in my lifetime........

So you are also not making any decisions on each and every supernatural claim then, right?

Agnostic = i do not know for sure if there is or isn't a god. I am an agnostic.
Atheist = I do not believe that there is a god. I am also an atheist.

The same can be said for most atheists and quite a fair share of theists too. Agnostic addresses another question, it has nothing to do with being a theist/atheist.

BoganGod wrote:A lot of religious debate with both the athiests and the christians pushing their points of views. Yes I do view believing that there is no god as an act of faith. Since there is no proof that there is or isn't a god, the true thinkers out there would with holdjudgement like myself. Seems to me that a lot of people are thinking with their emotions. The logical choice for those with an IQ anything above a drug dependant gerbil is been an agnostic.

There is no proof of the existance of a god/gods, there is no proof of the non existance of a god/gods. Therefor I will keep an open mind. People like to be sheep and share common irrational belief with others that is why the choose god or no god. QED believers are mindless sheep.

Howl all you want lame brains. Prove your point, or just accept your need to belong to a flock of mouth breathing conformists.

I'd have more respect for you if you were an atheist. At least then you'd be making up your mind, rather than wallowing in an incompetent state of indecision.

Frigidus wrote:

2dimes wrote:What I'm meaning to get at is that I suspect it's not the wizards you are having difficulty in believing in so much as the concept of their portrail in movies. I don't see a reason to doubt there has been wizards but I understand and agree with your doubts of their abilities to fly and change forms etc.

I honestly am not sure if you're kidding at the moment (probably...maybe?)

I see no reason to believe in magic of any form. It is highly improbable.

I don't have a problem believing a certain amount of magic is possible but yeah most of it I'm pretty certain is confined to imagination, art and illusion.

Oddly enough I'm being fairly real here. I absolutely had beans, eggs, hashbrowns, toast and turkey bacon when I was posting about it. My wife prepared it and brought it to me while I foolishly waited for bogangod to have a discussion he's not capable of with me. I can't prove that because I ate the evidence. Let's say I took a picture and posted it though, that's hardly evidence. Anyone see the movie "Forrest Gump." Lt. Dan had no legs!!!

Then in his disbelief he accuses me of eating spam. Unfourtunatly I can't disprove it so now I have to live with the fact that people will choose to believe that.

No offense Bogan, I think you're an alright guy. Honestly though, why do you grief about sharing or discussing your beliefs with people on the internet? It's not exactly a meaningful conversation with persons whom you can't even look eye to eye. Half the time people are just fucking around and would rather verbally spit in your face and laugh.

Connecting with anybody from the approach of disrespecting their beliefs is an immediate waste of effort. Just so you know, nothing but a neutral stance ever trumps another persons bias or ignorance on such subjects. I don't even get in between or belittle another persons religious beliefs in real life because it's a touchy subject for only them to decide. Only they can understand their religion or lack there of drawn from their individual experiences.

It's an uphill battle trying to portray the fundamentals of religion and persuade an opinion. Unless, you have somebody who is open minded or interested in its practice. Except when you actually make a thread about it, it tends to attract mostly the opposite of that. So it seems that perhaps you wanted to be attacked on the matter because you opened up on the defense. Which is the wrong way to go about changing a persons perspective.

Calling people sheep and mouth breathers isn't exactly going to get you any high fives. So let the people who want to talk about their religion have the time of their lives doing so. As for the head strong atheists, they'll get along either way without the weight of dogma on their shoulders.

In other words, if you were an emissary I would have already chopped off your head by now and sent it home in a sack.

I'm not going to say your post is with out merit herp but if he came to my house and looked me in the eye he'd get pretty much the same thing, albiet in a higher quantity with the option of breakfast.

In my personal experience, people who are agnostics are also recovering alcoholics who are searching for their higher power. If this is the case Bogan, it's not the best time for you to debate or understand either sides views.

King_Herpes wrote:why do you grief about sharing or discussing your beliefs with people on the internet? It's not exactly a meaningful conversation with persons whom you can't even look eye to eye. Half the time people are just fucking around and would rather verbally spit in your face and laugh.

That is the answer to the question.

In the wise words of Vox Day:

Agnostic: I don't believe in God. Because there is no evidence.

Atheist: I don't believe in God. Because I'm an asshole.

Well since bogan doesn't want a discussion and is only here to be effeminate and hypocritical I'm probably going to go find a discussion somewhere else. In case anyone else is confused and thinks I'm trolling, if I were I would have did it in this festering pile and waste of bandwidth of a thread. http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... =8&t=90423

OnlyAmbrose wrote:In the wise words of Vox Day:
Agnostic: I don't believe in God. Because there is no evidence.
Atheist: I don't believe in God. Because I'm an asshole.

I must admit, this did make me laugh out loud.

BoganGod wrote:A lot of religious debate with both the athiests and the christians pushing their points of views. Yes I do view believing that there is no god as an act of faith. Since there is no proof that there is or isn't a god, the true thinkers out there would with holdjudgement like myself. Seems to me that a lot of people are thinking with their emotions. The logical choice for those with an IQ anything above a drug dependant gerbil is been an agnostic.

There is no proof of the existance of a god/gods, there is no proof of the non existance of a god/gods. Therefor I will keep an open mind. People like to be sheep and share common irrational belief with others that is why the choose god or no god. QED believers are mindless sheep.

Howl all you want lame brains. Prove your point, or just accept your need to belong to a flock of mouth breathing conformists.

I'm assuming all the insults is just to try to stir up people to answer. If you leave that out, your statement is fair enough. The one problem with it, it seems to me, is the underlying assumption that facts and logic are the only way to "know" something.

Logically, the most efficient thing for the human race, for financial prosperity, survival of the species, making the trains run on time etc., would be to live under some fascist bastard. However throughout history people have staked their lives on the fact that they know that's wrong. I agree with them, and I hope you do too.

Logic is not the only way to "know" something. As a matter of fact, in some of the most important things in life, it is not even the best way. Have you seen I, Robot, with Will Smith?

2dimes wrote:I'm not going to say your post is with out merit herp but if he came to my house and looked me in the eye he'd get pretty much the same thing, albiet in a higher quantity with the option of breakfast.

Breakfast would be a nice option except for the fact that earlier you mentioned turkey bacon, which is utterly disgusting. I would much rather have spam with my eggs and toast than that dried up rubbery excuse for bacon that they make from turkeys.