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Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:46 am
by GabonX
Most of the laws which infringe on my ability to live freely exist to protect these two groups.

I will not allow myself to be drug down by the least common denominator or most unfit social factor.

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:41 am
by GabonX
Such laws often exist to protect these groups but it is also common for these laws to protect people from such groups. This is more common with stupid people than with children.

Either way, if a law would inhibit liberty it should not be.

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:43 am
by KristenAmazon
Oh? So if I feel like shooting you in a fit of rage, I should have the right to do so without the fear of consequence? Let's be realistic. There are reasons we have laws.

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:46 am
by GabonX
You would never succeed, though I don't see how this is related...

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:56 am
by KristenAmazon
Either way, if a law would inhibit liberty it should not be.


Would you like to extend an explanation? Define the outline of your point? I can think of many laws that inhibit liberty and should be.

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:59 am
by GabonX
Like what?

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:13 am
by angola
Gabon - were you sad when no one posted on this ridiculous thread, so you felt the need to post again an hour later to bump it to the top?

Or were you just trying to sew more seeds of hate?

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:19 am
by xelabale
angola wrote:Gabon - were you sad when no one posted on this ridiculous thread, so you felt the need to post again an hour later to bump it to the top?

Or were you just trying to sow more seeds of hate?

ftw

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:20 am
by GabonX
angola wrote:Gabon - were you sad when no one posted on this ridiculous thread, so you felt the need to post again an hour later to bump it to the top?

This thread is for tomorrow when people are awake.

angola wrote:Or were you just trying to sow more seeds of hate?

Hate? No..

I don't hate children, in fact I think people should be having more of them than they are. I don't hate stupid people either, but it is wrong to impose things on people because other people are stupid.

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:30 am
by angola
Quit being obtuse and just say what you are trying to imply.

It's obnoxious to try and read through the lines.

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:35 am
by GabonX
It is wrong to impose things on one group of people because of another.

I'm not sure what else to say.. :?

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:45 am
by angola
GabonX wrote:It is wrong to impose things on one group of people because of another.

I'm not sure what else to say.. :?



OK. So you get to the root of your theory.

That's all I wanted.

And yes I agree.

For example, just because some Republicans don't want free health care, Democrats should not be stopped from offering free health care to people that are like-minded from them. Right?

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:49 am
by GabonX
It's fine if they want to offer free health care but it is wrong for them to raise taxes to do it.

People have the right to keep their own money. People are not entitled to the fruits of another person's labor (unless we are talking about children).

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:52 am
by angola
GabonX wrote:It's fine if they want to offer free health care but it is wrong for them to raise taxes to do it.

People have the right to keep their own money. People are not entitled to the fruits of another person's labor (unless we are talking about children).



I thought you hated children?

Why is it wrong to raise taxes to offer free health care? Do you believe health care is a right? I'm curious.

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:59 am
by GabonX
I said I don't hate children.

No, health care is not a right. Health care would be a right if people were paying taxes specifically for it, but it is wrong to impose taxes on one person to pay for the expenses of another.

People are not entitled to be taken care of by other people unless they are children.

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:01 am
by angola
GabonX wrote:I said I don't hate children.

No, health care is not a right. Health care would be a right if people were paying taxes specifically for it, but it is wrong to impose taxes on one person to pay for the expenses of another.

People are not entitled to be taken care of by other people unless they are children.


But you are already paying for uninsured people to receive health care. So, why not make it free for the rest of us?

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:13 am
by Genghis Khant
GabonX wrote:Most of the laws which infringe on my ability to live freely exist to protect these two groups.

I will not allow myself to be drug down by the least common denominator or most unfit social factor.


:lol:
pot... kettle...?

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:08 am
by Neoteny
lol, I didn't expect you to admit to not caring if children die. I mean, we already know you're racist, but this is getting silly.

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:49 am
by Nobunaga
Neoteny wrote:lol, I didn't expect you to admit to not caring if children die. I mean, we already know you're racist, but this is getting silly.


... And there it is again. Surprise, surprise.

... :roll:

...

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:54 am
by Neoteny
Nobunaga wrote:
Neoteny wrote:lol, I didn't expect you to admit to not caring if children die. I mean, we already know you're racist, but this is getting silly.


... And there it is again. Surprise, surprise.

... :roll:

...


I do it because it's funny. And it's true.

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:58 pm
by Borderdawg
Neoteny wrote:lol, I didn't expect you to admit to not caring if children die. I mean, we already know you're racist, but this is getting silly.


OK, I'm confused. :? Read through this thread twice. Where exactly did he say he doesn't care if children die? Or are you just making shit up?

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:05 pm
by Neoteny
Borderdawg wrote:
Neoteny wrote:lol, I didn't expect you to admit to not caring if children die. I mean, we already know you're racist, but this is getting silly.


OK, I'm confused. :? Read through this thread twice. Where exactly did he say he doesn't care if children die? Or are you just making shit up?


He's obviously not for protecting children from harm. What else do you need?

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:39 pm
by Borderdawg
Neoteny wrote:
Borderdawg wrote:
Neoteny wrote:lol, I didn't expect you to admit to not caring if children die. I mean, we already know you're racist, but this is getting silly.


OK, I'm confused. :? Read through this thread twice. Where exactly did he say he doesn't care if children die? Or are you just making shit up?


He's obviously not for protecting children from harm. What else do you need?


Read posts #13 & #15. Sounds like he's advocating protection for children to me!

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:41 pm
by GabonX
Let me just come out and say that yes I am for protecting children and Yes Neo's post is ridiculous. Is anyone surprised by either of these things?

I don't have a problem with stopping for school buses or slowing down in school zones. I think children should be protected from predators. They should also be protected from people who would seek to indoctrinate them with an ideology which is in contradiction to their families traditions (so long as the traditions are rational). I'm even for a free and public education.

With that said, there is only so much which can be imposed on everyone for the welfare of this one group of people. Keep in mind all regulations which are put in place to serve people in their adolescence will one day inconvenience them.

Aside from taking a harder stance on child predators, I think there are already more than enough regulations in place to protect children.

Re: Children and Stupid People

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:42 pm
by Attila the Fun!
Why don't we ask Gabon.

Gabon, do you think we should pay higher taxes to provide health care to children?