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benga wrote:
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benga wrote:
Is this enroll or discussion thread?
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Elaterate wrote:benga wrote:
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Ya I was told by a few players that the "30 days" policy is given extra time if needed which I figured I would need since I need 120 players for this but if you want to move this thread into a different area of the forums so the players can try to sign up for this elsewhere..... ok I guess. I am currently in a tournament that took more then 30 days to fill so I'm a little confused why you would automatically try to move this thread.
Dukasaur wrote:Elaterate wrote:benga wrote:
Is this enroll or discussion thread?
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There is a 30 days enroll policy.
Ya I was told by a few players that the "30 days" policy is given extra time if needed which I figured I would need since I need 120 players for this but if you want to move this thread into a different area of the forums so the players can try to sign up for this elsewhere..... ok I guess. I am currently in a tournament that took more then 30 days to fill so I'm a little confused why you would automatically try to move this thread.
As I said above, yes exceptions can be made. However, if you need an exception, it's up to you to write a PM to benga and ask nicely for one, not to just assume that one will be granted.
Elaterate wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Elaterate wrote:benga wrote:
Is this enroll or discussion thread?
If you are starting 21.10. then this thread will be closed till 21.09.
There is a 30 days enroll policy.
Ya I was told by a few players that the "30 days" policy is given extra time if needed which I figured I would need since I need 120 players for this but if you want to move this thread into a different area of the forums so the players can try to sign up for this elsewhere..... ok I guess. I am currently in a tournament that took more then 30 days to fill so I'm a little confused why you would automatically try to move this thread.
As I said above, yes exceptions can be made. However, if you need an exception, it's up to you to write a PM to benga and ask nicely for one, not to just assume that one will be granted.
said above? Apologies for not going through the proper channels to get an exception but again, I'm pretty new here so was under the impression that the "exception" was given when a tournament is coming close to it's 30 days and is not quite full yet.... not that I had to go ask permission to have a sign up last more then 30 days from the start because if this fills before 30 days then I would run it before the date in which I stated I wanted it to start by. But again, let's just squash it like Benga suggested and move it to a different part of the forums so there is no more of this back and forth.
Mad777 wrote:Not that I want to sound negative, but your dates and forecast per phase is a bit out of the reality, sending all those games each week will create a pretty high game load.
Any expectation on player game load for Phase 1 for instance? Team games last longer than many other game type and based on my experience running big scale tournament (like this one), I can tell than this format will take more than you think.
As an advice I would encourage to request many reserve per registered team, or at least lay out a game load, time frame this event will last.
CC large tournament those days are tough to maintain above the water because only a small amount of players are willing to stay in a tournament for a year or more, seeing you plan on recruiting 120 players (I guess this is without the reserve amount I suggested above), this number will go down after couple of months, there is nothing wrong at all setting something up like you have done and I'm only bringing experience in a form of advices here for you to be prepare.
CC needs this kind of event with no doubt, but be sure you to check here to have an idea when large scale upcoming CC event to start and will undoubtly take player away from the casual tournament scene.
Good luck with your project
Mad777 wrote:Not that I want to sound negative, but your dates and forecast per phase is a bit out of the reality, sending all those games each week will create a pretty high game load.
Any expectation on player game load for Phase 1 for instance? Team games last longer than many other game type and based on my experience running big scale tournament (like this one), I can tell than this format will take more than you think.
As an advice I would encourage to request many reserve per registered team, or at least lay out a game load, time frame this event will last.
CC large tournament those days are tough to maintain above the water because only a small amount of players are willing to stay in a tournament for a year or more, seeing you plan on recruiting 120 players (I guess this is without the reserve amount I suggested above), this number will go down after couple of months, there is nothing wrong at all setting something up like you have done and I'm only bringing experience in a form of advices here for you to be prepare.
CC needs this kind of event with no doubt, but be sure you to check here to have an idea when large scale upcoming CC event to start and will undoubtly take player away from the casual tournament scene.
Good luck with your project
benga wrote:
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shoop76 wrote:benga wrote:
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I don't understand this Benga, this tournament has been up since June 4th and no message from you
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=227789
Ours has been up for less than 6 hours and a post from you already, threatening to close the thread.
I understand everyone's concern, but we don't know if these are real issues until we see if there is interest. Yes the tournament can be amended for less players. Its only 1 to 2 games a week. A majority should end within 2 weeks. As the structure stands it should end within a year. Of course there will be players that leave, but if that happens teams can pick up a reserve.
Let's see what happens. tournaments has very few good elaborate tournaments anymore. There is no TPA or Championships or many of the other tournaments that have been run in the past. It would be nice to have some support.
Elaterate wrote:shoop76 wrote:benga wrote:
Is this enroll or discussion thread?
If you are starting 21.10. then this thread will be closed till 21.09.
There is a 30 days enroll policy.
I don't understand this Benga, this tournament has been up since June 4th and no message from you
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=227789
Ours has been up for less than 6 hours and a post from you already, threatening to close the thread.
I understand everyone's concern, but we don't know if these are real issues until we see if there is interest. Yes the tournament can be amended for less players. Its only 1 to 2 games a week. A majority should end within 2 weeks. As the structure stands it should end within a year. Of course there will be players that leave, but if that happens teams can pick up a reserve.
Let's see what happens. tournaments has very few good elaborate tournaments anymore. There is no TPA or Championships or many of the other tournaments that have been run in the past. It would be nice to have some support.
Has he responded to this? I've asked more then once in PMs and got no answer
benga wrote:Elaterate wrote:shoop76 wrote:benga wrote:
Is this enroll or discussion thread?
If you are starting 21.10. then this thread will be closed till 21.09.
There is a 30 days enroll policy.
I don't understand this Benga, this tournament has been up since June 4th and no message from you
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=227789
Ours has been up for less than 6 hours and a post from you already, threatening to close the thread.
I understand everyone's concern, but we don't know if these are real issues until we see if there is interest. Yes the tournament can be amended for less players. Its only 1 to 2 games a week. A majority should end within 2 weeks. As the structure stands it should end within a year. Of course there will be players that leave, but if that happens teams can pick up a reserve.
Let's see what happens. tournaments has very few good elaborate tournaments anymore. There is no TPA or Championships or many of the other tournaments that have been run in the past. It would be nice to have some support.
Has he responded to this? I've asked more then once in PMs and got no answer
This tournament has been added to database and seems you are pushing some unknown agenda. Everything has been explained and not sure what else you want.
benga wrote:Elaterate wrote:shoop76 wrote:benga wrote:
Is this enroll or discussion thread?
If you are starting 21.10. then this thread will be closed till 21.09.
There is a 30 days enroll policy.
I don't understand this Benga, this tournament has been up since June 4th and no message from you
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=227789
Ours has been up for less than 6 hours and a post from you already, threatening to close the thread.
I understand everyone's concern, but we don't know if these are real issues until we see if there is interest. Yes the tournament can be amended for less players. Its only 1 to 2 games a week. A majority should end within 2 weeks. As the structure stands it should end within a year. Of course there will be players that leave, but if that happens teams can pick up a reserve.
Let's see what happens. tournaments has very few good elaborate tournaments anymore. There is no TPA or Championships or many of the other tournaments that have been run in the past. It would be nice to have some support.
Has he responded to this? I've asked more then once in PMs and got no answer
This tournament has been added to database and seems you are pushing some unknown agenda. Everything has been explained and not sure what else you want.
benga wrote:Not sure why I am still wasting my time with this but here goes:
- I asked a legit question and you both feel threatened, not sure why
- I don't remember any tournament in my career that was given this much time in advance without confirmation from TD
- I have been nothing but supportive to Elaterate and I don't plan to give any exceptions just cause he feels he has the right
- I have also personally added him to TO group to hear of any ideas he has so we can bring back CC Championship back and you shoop were also part of that group so by saying I am not supportive makes me wonder is there any other agenda
This is my final statement about this, if you wish to pursue this go to higher channels.
shoop76 wrote: You threaten to lock the signups for the tournament not filling up quickly enough whilst the thread just went up.
Dukasaur wrote:shoop76 wrote: You threaten to lock the signups for the tournament not filling up quickly enough whilst the thread just went up.
Shoop, we all know that you don't like benga and apparently Elaterate doesn't like either me or benga. Nonetheless we all have to coexist here so let's try to be civil. Civility begins with not using inflammatory language. You keep saying you were threatened and it just isn't so. Benga didn't make any "threats". His post quite clearlyThat's a reasonable question for him to ask and a reasonable comment for him to make. It's not any kind of "threat" nor does it close the door on asking for an extension. In fact, in his very first PM on the subject, benga clarified that he had no problem with granting an extension if he was asked.
- asked if this was a sign-up thread or a discussion thread (a question which was never explicitly answered) and
- indicated that if this is a sign-up thread the 30-day clock started ticking.
In addition to benga clearly indicating that he was willing to grant an extension, I also offered (in a PM to Elat) to help your recruitment efforts by headlining this. I also offered to split this thread so that we get a nice neat recruitment thread and all of this discussion can go into a seperate thread in the Discussions subforum. Neither of my offers was accepted.
I spent hours writing several messages trying to get Elat to bury the hatchet and put this behind us, but to no avail. I eventually gave up.
So the ball is in your court, shoop. You and I have dealt with each other many times and you know I always try to be fair and work out what is best for the players. If you need an extension on the time, benga is quite willing to do it. If you want me to split this thread and move all this discussion to another place so you can have the sign-up thread tabula rasa, I will gladly do that. All you need to do is ask. If you want me to headline this at some point, I'll do that too. Just ask. But I do ask that you two stop this false narrative about how you were "threatened". It's pejorative and false. There was nothing except a routine matter-of-fact notation by benga that the clock was ticking, which only a really prejudiced view could turn in to a "threat."
Elaterate wrote:Ok now I will take your request to move this to a discussion thread because the players have to go through to much of this garbage to be able to sign up now
Elaterate wrote:"That's a reasonable question for him to ask and a reasonable comment for him to make"... Yes it is and my main question is why could this not have been done through a PM like it was done in the past.... but we still have not got that answer.
We are not "continuing" to say we are threatened, I am asking a question that hasn't been answered, simply as that.
"Civility begins with not using inflammatory language".... calling someone a Martyr for trying to follow the rule that started all of this isn't using inflammatory lanuage?
Or calling me a female over and over based on....??? Is being civil?
Shoop, we all know that you don't like benga
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