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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:19 pm**

No grey area for flip floppers?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:20 pm**

oVo wrote:No grey area?

Nope__ I think most of us want to think that we're in the gray area. That's why I put which affiliation you most closely identify with so that we could get a real sense of the break-down.

Addendum: Would you prefer I broke it down to:

Conservative Nutball
Rational Conservative
Liberal Douche
Rational Liberal

Who really cares. Yes__ I'd hope we all aspire to be independent thinkers who are well schooled in critical thought. But at the end of the day__ most or all of us (that aren't indifferent) generally sympathize with various political persuasions.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:20 pm**

Are we going by American conservative definitions here? Using the standard scale of (from left to right):

Marx - Hitler - Stalin - Obama - Carter - The Main Stream Media - Fox - Reagan (what he actually did) - The Founding Fathers - God - Reagan (what American conservatives think he did)

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:22 pm**

do you have nothing more important to think about?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:24 pm**

Symmetry wrote:Are we going by American conservative definitions here? Using the standard scale of (from left to right):

Marx - Hitler - Stalin - Obama - Carter - The Main Stream Media - Fox - Reagan (what he actually did) - The Founding Fathers - God - Reagan (what American conservatives think he did)

I guess it'd depend on your own perception of conservatism and liberalism. I would go with how you personally define the philosophies and detach yourself from the applications of leaders who you feel abused their power (unless you feel that it is an inseparable application).

the carpet man wrote:do you have nothing more important to think about?

That has no real relevance to this thread (or most any thread).

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:27 pm**

It depends on the context.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:31 pm**

Viper: That has no real relevance to this thread (or most any thread).

it does. your question is incredibly pointless.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:36 pm**

the carpet man wrote:Viper: That has no real relevance to this thread (or most any thread).

it does. your question is incredibly pointless.

If you don't like the thread__ by all means__ don't participate in it.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:37 pm**

i was simply commenting that i am staggered that you consider this question worth asking. what else do you do with your free time?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:40 pm**

I don't see Libertarian in that poll.....

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:45 pm**

patches70 wrote:I don't see Libertarian in that poll.....

Then decide if it relates more closely to conservatism or liberalism.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:47 pm**

Are write in votes allowed?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:49 pm**

ViperOverLord wrote:
patches70 wrote:I don't see Libertarian in that poll.....

Then decide if it relates more closely to conservatism or liberalism.

Nah, I can't vote for either of them and I don't know what that third option really means. Seems to me conservatives and liberals both are all about telling everyone else what to do and what to think. Screw em both I say.
But good luck on your poll! Whatever it might be you are trying to find out I wish you success, sir.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:50 pm**

I am Satanist and want to destroy all humanity and harvest souls for the Dark Lord. Conservative?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:57 pm**

CreepersWiener wrote:I am Satanist and want to destroy all humanity and harvest souls for the Dark Lord. Conservative?

Cheneyist

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:40 pm**

ViperOverLord wrote:
patches70 wrote:I don't see Libertarian in that poll.....

Then decide if it relates more closely to conservatism or liberalism.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:57 pm**

I'm a fucking person man! I don't fit into your labels!

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:59 pm**

The Bison King wrote:I'm a fucking person man! I don't fit into your labels!

Yea__ You're special.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:19 pm**

Symmetry wrote:Are we going by American conservative definitions here? Using the standard scale of (from left to right):

Marx - Hitler - Stalin - Obama - Carter - The Main Stream Media - Fox - Reagan (what he actually did) - The Founding Fathers - God - Reagan (what American conservatives think he did)

Wait... Hitler was left of Stalin?

Oh, right... American conservative definitions where "conservative" means "stupid." Understood.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:26 pm**

patches70 wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:
patches70 wrote:I don't see Libertarian in that poll.....

Then decide if it relates more closely to conservatism or liberalism.

Nah, I can't vote for either of them and I don't know what that third option really means. Seems to me conservatives and liberals both are all about telling everyone else what to do and what to think. Screw em both I say.
But good luck on your poll! Whatever it might be you are trying to find out I wish you success, sir.

This.

Especially the underlined part.

As for your poll, how about people who identify as socially liberal and fiscally conservative? Or socially conservative but fiscally liberal? (Yeah, I realize this question basically mirrors patches' question about libertarians, I just thought it deserved being repeated.)

You can't pigeonhole everybody into only 2 categories. The fact that so many wish to is a sign of how screwed up politics has become. It's not a dichotomy, as your poll would suggest. It's a continuum, much like with sexuality. But whatevs, this is off topic and doesn't answer your question.

I suppose if forced to choose one, I would go with liberal. While I can't stand the liberal's fiscal outlook, I much prefer their social agenda to the conservative social agenda, so I guess liberal more accurately describes me, but still, not really. I'd rather judge each issue separately, rather than subscribe to an agenda wholesale. Really, libertarian describes me best.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:27 pm**

Little bit of row b, little bit of row c. Also AoG is gen z fyi

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:28 pm**

I think the only way to categorize people, politically, is with regard to specific issues. I fancy myself a Libertarian, but I don't agree with the Libertarian stance on immigration. Does that mean I'm kicked out of the Libertarian Party? Does that mean I'm a California socialist?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:37 pm**

thegreekdog wrote:I think the only way to categorize people, politically, is with regard to specific issues. I fancy myself a Libertarian, but I don't agree with the Libertarian stance on immigration. Does that mean I'm kicked out of the Libertarian Party? Does that mean I'm a California socialist?

That's pretty much the main issue with modern democracy, imo.

Im a liberal leftist, but god damn some annoying crap comes out of the political parties you find in that area of the political spectrum.

"f*ck OFF I DONT WANT TO GROW DREADS AND NEVER WEAR SHOES YOU SMELLY POS's"

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:55 pm**

thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Are we going by American conservative definitions here? Using the standard scale of (from left to right):

Marx - Hitler - Stalin - Obama - Carter - The Main Stream Media - Fox - Reagan (what he actually did) - The Founding Fathers - God - Reagan (what American conservatives think he did)

Wait... Hitler was left of Stalin?

Oh, right... American conservative definitions where "conservative" means "stupid." Understood.

That's the one, although I understand there's some debate. National Socialist after all.

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