Did you know that the Democrats had control of both the House and Senate and also the presidency up until November 2010, and yet they did nothing to increase revenue or decrease spending?


Fascinating.


Wait....how does this excuse taking the debt-ceiling hostage?

Why do people still gobble ...

thegreekdog wrote: Did you know that the Democrats had control of both the House and Senate and also the presidency up until November 2010, and yet they did nothing to increase revenue or decrease spending?

Fascinating.


Wait....how does this excuse taking the debt-ceiling hostage?

Found it!

Crimes Per Capita, Norway: 71.9 per 1,000 people
Crimes Per Capita, Turkey : 4.11252 per 1,000 people
http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Norway/Turkey/Crime

Therefore, based on the prevailing logic in this thread, Norway would see a 15x lower crime rate if they replaced their ...

It's an experiment, so see if it works. That said, I don't believe it could be replicated here in the US. Honestly, I would not want them to even try that here.


Why not? Aside from political realities making sure it never happens is there any reason that a system like this can not be ...

I think it's disgusting. Prisoners should suffer and be beaten daily because I care more about my animalistic notions of petty revenge than about things like justice or humanity.


Screw your morality, I'm going for all-caps rage posts.

bedub1 wrote: when the government is the largest corporation ever with a giant monopoly?

You what?

WEll, welcome to the world of a large number of Tea Partiers.. snorri. "reduce taxes, reduce government.. and that will mean corporation have less control"

oh I'm well aware of the utter insanity behind it, I just like the feeling of being right simply for not promoting that insanity.

lucky you ...

PLAYER57832 wrote:WEll, welcome to the world of a large number of Tea Partiers.. snorri. "reduce taxes, reduce government.. and that will mean corporation have less control"

oh I'm well aware of the utter insanity behind it, I just like the feeling of being right simply for not promoting that insanity.

Instead of supporting a strong government that retains its monopoly in providing certain goods, why not break up the monopoly and end the corporate influence of a few select corporations ?

What makes you think these (probably very rich) corporations wouldn't have more influence when all the ...

I'm saying that the intended effect (i.e. getting a lot of people to quit smoking) is not achieved but that there is still a small effect (that probably isn't worth it).

Much like making drugs illegal might stop some people from doing them but at the same time saying that it therefore "works ...

Instead of supporting a strong government that retains its monopoly in providing certain goods, why not break up the monopoly and end the corporate influence of a few select corporations ?

What makes you think these (probably very rich) corporations wouldn't have more influence when all the ...

Instead of supporting a strong government that retains its monopoly in providing certain goods, why not break up the monopoly and end the corporate influence of a few select corporations ?

What makes you think these (probably very rich) corporations wouldn't have more influence when all the ...

Why would it? It would just mean the corporations don't have to bother with influencing the government.

How does that work?


Well if the government doesn't even involve itself with making regulations as to what and what is not allowed then companies don't need to care about it.


If the ...

I'm saying that the intended effect (i.e. getting a lot of people to quit smoking) is not achieved but that there is still a small effect (that probably isn't worth it).

Much like making drugs illegal might stop some people from doing them but at the same time saying that it therefore "works ...

why have a 2% tax on cigarettes instead of a 90% tax?
what on earth gives you the idea that we don't have that? in most countries at least 60% of the price on your cigarettes is tax.

And it still doesn't work? Holy shit.


Well of course it doesn't work. Though coupled with education it does ...

why have a 2% tax on cigarettes instead of a 90% tax?
what on earth gives you the idea that we don't have that? in most countries at least 60% of the price on your cigarettes is tax.

And it still doesn't work? Holy shit.


Well of course it doesn't work. Though coupled with education it does ...

You refer to individual behavior. Individuals have many motivators, particularly entertainment, pleasure, etc. However, if you concentrate strictly on corporations, then it does work, because corporations are in the business of making money. It takes pretty heavy ideology indeed, (plus direct ...

thegreekdog wrote: why have a 2% tax on cigarettes instead of a 90% tax?

what on earth gives you the idea that we don't have that? in most countries at least 60% of the price on your cigarettes is tax.

I'm not sure how one can argue the merits of government while at the same time lamenting the control of government by corporations. It's rather inconsistent.
Really? The government is the only thing keeping corporations from utterly stomping on us even more than they do.

So you don't think ...

7. There is at least one study linking the frequency used to light the bulb to increased rates of cancer for those that sit too near them

Yes. Full circle to getting right wing theocrats to adopt the arguments more commonly employed by left-wing environmentalists.

Aside from light obviously ...

This is the bestest thing ever. Good old Night Strike.

1. It's not the government's job to pick and choose which products get sold in a free market. They make those choices in a socialist market.
Aside from it obviously being the government's job to pick and choose what gets sold in their fucking ...

You don't want state's rights. You want a very strong federal government that doesn't infringe.
Exactly... or more to the point, one that lets the big corporations infringe as much as they wish.


Big corporations can't infringe. The Invisible Hand of The Free Market will see to that.


The ...

The reason you don't want the states to have more power is because the federal government has already subdued them, not because they naturally migrated to a stronger federal government.

Nah, the reason we don't want states to have more power is because the clusterfuck that'll be.



It's actually ...

I thought the information in this link was interesting:

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2004/01/understanding-poverty-in-america

Specifically, I found the following information interesting:

- 45.9% of the US poor own a home
- 72.8% of the US poor own a car or truck
- 30.2% of the US ...

I'm not asking if England is geographically located in Europe, I am asking if you believe the English are a European culture in the traditional sense of that word. And I'm asking about the English only, not the Scottish, Welsh, et. al.

I haven't enjoyed the last 20 years of indoctrination by the ...