Hi all. Who remembers some conspiracy and creationism discussions from like 15 years ago if I have been away for a long time?

TA1LGUNN3R,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_Hyksos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipuwer_Papyrus

And 130 years? Do you have any .edu or online encyclopedia type source that claims the Gospels were not written in the first century?

I might be getting back to page 72 stuff years later and not be real sure what all was addressed to me and what all I missed. Was there anything said to me that someone wants me to address?

AAFitz,

Did Marco Polo just happen to guess correctly about what had actually existed before? And who knows ...

How about we get into something a little more concrete if you can bend rates to preconceived notions about what occurred in the past?

Can we get back into dinosaurs if referring to images from Jurassic Park was essentially the gist of a recent secular response to evidence? Is it not true that The ...

"In about 50 billion years from now, the Moon will stop moving away from us."
-http://wiki.answers.com/Q/5_facts_about_the_moon

Why would the moon eventually stop moving away from earth if it has been moving away from earth at an increasing rate?

And AAFitz, what can the moon starting relatively ...

So basically you choose to bend a current rate to fit a preconceived notion about when the moon came to exist and call that science? How much slower do you think the rate was if my source claims it was actually faster in the past? And would the moon need to be even a 10% closer than now to seriously ...

How about we use common sense if the moon is moving away from earth at a rate that would have put it in contact with earth a little over one billion years ago and you think it started existing almost five billion years ago? What can tides and continents do to help explain stuff away for you? And who ...

You might need to copy and paste to get parenthesis in for address, but how about check here if you're basically rewording stuff from a Talk Origins page? m)

How much would life be messed with if the moon was even a little closer? If you are going to counter evidence for young earth like modern ...

Huh? Are you trying to argue that the distance did not increase at a faster rate in the past?

Crispy,

How about we move on with page 86 stuff?

It might be easier for you to read stuff from

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but paste here from edit area of a page 86 post that should be read in full?

If the earth-moon system is said to be 4.5 billion or so years old and it would have been straight up in ...

Crispy,

How reliable are proposed rates of accumulation if a) there are chemical methods and cumulative flux calculations based on satellite and radar data that greatly contradict and b) you yourself referred to a rate that calculated out to far below a billion years for .05 inches of cosmic dust ...

Was Science Digest an independent and verifiable and credible source in 1959?

Also, does the answersingenesis source not have over 200 reference numbers and refer to Scientific American and the Journal or the
American Affiliation and Science Digest and Nature and New Scientist and Science and ...

I'm not sure which is more accurate, but it might be logical to not rely on proposed rates and to look for stuff like an actual space capsule. I'm not sure how fast dust accumulates on the moon or what is a wrong scientific measurement or what is a flawed theory. How about we move on?

"Thus, until ...

I'm not sure what you want a source for. Not that I have not already given credible sources.

Is 350-400 million years not more than a little low if the moon is almost 5 billion years old? And what happened to the space capsule?

Not that 14,300,000 is necessarily a good estimate, but how much time would it really take for a 0.5-inch layer of cosmic dust to accumulate on the moon if you claim it's billions of years old? Do you have a source concerned with cosmic dust turning into something other than cosmic dust and a ...

14,300,000 tons*

Crispy,

14,300,000 is a questionable number and there is a weak creationist moon dust argument that answersingenesis itself does not hold as a good one and I should have never sent stuff in the first section perhaps, but what is truly a more reliable estimate than 14,300,000 if ...

Whether or not light is constant and always has been... would it be wrong to create Adam in an adult body surrounded by fruit bearing trees that were less than a week old?

Crispy,

What was referred to by Mets if not another radiometric dating method with assumptions of it's own? And how about address what was already said and we move on if I already suggested you quoted stuff that represented me in a moon dust discussion well enough for the basis of a cc forum ...

What can tree rings and coral and ice cores do to help us date preflood things if they are from after the flood and any corresponding change within the atmosphere that would have occurred from it? And what shows the earth is older than 6,000 years and isn't based on circular reasoning?

http://www ...

Mets,

Where's a radiometric dating method that does not assume both a starting point and a constant rate of decay? Who knows where anything started if He created things out of nothing and who knows what has changed in regards to rate of decay if the earth has gone through one or more major change ...

What is off topic about that if it's stuff directed at you from page 86 that you've done little to nothing to address? Is creation and evolution not more relevant as to whether or not He exists than how fast dust accumulates on the moon?

"So pick a single point and I'll address it and we can argue ...

Tzor,

Where did dust come from? : ]

Crispy.

No it does fully represent my argument on that depending on definition at least, but how about address that and we move on with discussion concerning moon dust from there if you would like?

You might feel like discussion of us got out of hand, but why ...

Tzor,

Any thoughts on 2 Maccabees 7:28?

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What if He existed even before energy and matter?

Crispy,

What do you want me to say about the moon and dust if I was the last one between us to post something mentioning them not counting a post with you quoting me and trying to summarize stuff?

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