Thank you for the consideration TeeGee, this was another case that to me did not seem like secret diplomacy at the time, but your views on what constitutes secret diplomacy are obviously different to what I had thought. My apologies for not knowing the difference and my thanks again for ...

I wasn't pointing the timeline out for defense against some kind of double jeopardy scenario, I mentioned it because owen stated a couple of times that I had been warned already and should know better. I'm saying I haven't wall posted anything since that warning, the wall post in question was made ...

There was more conversation than that though (above where trini says "now lets deal the next one"), I remember mentioning it, though it was a long argument and I'm not 100% on who I mentioned it to (I am quite sure it was trini though). I did say I "think" and I "believe" it to be the case ...

TeeGee wrote:It would help me greatly if you could tell me who the mod/admin was so I can approach them on this

I believe it was trinicardinal, though I may be mistaken.

There was no additional or different information in the wall post than there was in game (look at the chat), I don't see how this could possibly be a case of secret diplomacy, hence why I posted it. I said the same thing I said in game chat in different (fewer) words, for clarification of my ...

Well, the wall post to althor was before i had received any disciplinary action and I believe these were the only wall posts I have made since I got back a few months ago (and yes, they will be the last).

In fact I think I brought up that I had made this wall post then as well, to an admin or mod ...

As much as the image of Owenshooter going through everyone of my games to find some sort of secret diplomacy disturbs me, I guess that is his prerogative.

I don't really know what to say here, I posted basically the same thing in game the day before and he didn't respond to it directly, so I ...

owenshooter wrote:these two users have almost 8K games on the site, combined.. one has 6700, the other almost 900... they have only played ONE game against each other...

Nuff said. Clearly if they are cheating they are very bad at it, so it is more likely green just made a bad play.

As much as I argued with Owen, he is in the right here.

I was annoyed with the need to specify "black" jesus, as it would suggest that there was a non-black jesus, and that "black" jesus is different only in skin color which is a weird thing to suggest.

Nonetheless he is free to call himself ...

owenshooter wrote:you respond to secret diplomacy in game chat, without notifying others of what was said on your wall. FACT
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SPECULATION. Not fact.

The fact you think of yourself as jesus yet go out of your way to persecute others is irony that is not lost on me.

You think it is clear, so disciplinary action is based on what you think?

I told uncgopher I was hitting uzbekistan because we are in game allies and I didnt want him to think I was breaking our truce (in game chat truce BTW), not because of some reason you make up from an outside perspective.

But ...

Uzbekistan is in the middle east, not europe, but sure, you believe what you want.

This is what I get for reporting suspected cheaters? Investigated?

That is quite ironic as that is all I wanted the admins to do for the people I reported (and they didn't).

Again, I did not post that on my own wall, and I did not comply with his suggestions, considering he posted it while we had ...

Considering I didn't write that on my wall, it appears you are just flinging poop in an attempt to get something to stick.

Please provide further evidence to support your claim, the admins don't waste their time investigating poopflinging owen.

I'd start by using game finder to check the games the two players have played together and how often they both win in those games.

So the onus is on me to investigate suspected cheating players? Oh K

I figured being a paying customer of this game that the moderators would moderate, but instead ...

What details are you looking for? I reported it here under the impression someone would review the entire game not just the turn where it is at now.

This really looks like you are throwing poop on the wall and hoping that some of it sticks.

Right, because I do that so often that it must be true ...

What details are you looking for? I reported it here under the impression someone would review the entire game not just the turn where it is at now.

I also reported it as an example for any other reports made too, I am not sure I am in any other games with them, so it is impossible for me to ...

Accused:

Nibelungo
Saki King




The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
or
Conducting Secret Diplomacy



Game number(s):

[game]15286479[/game]


Comments: Clearly working together and attempting to disguise it.