wilderbeast [pending]

hwhrhett · Post by **hwhrhett** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:13 pm

lol, i smell a bust comin soon.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:14 pm

hwhrhett wrote:it would be nice if the mods stated a definitive answer.

Let us catch up on what's going on. :wink:

krusher · Post by **krusher** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:26 pm

JesusReigns wrote:You guys don't understand. Ask anyone that got involved even the players if I had pmed them all to apologize before this popped up.
1. I'm a Christian and made a mistake and did what was right.
2. I was not concerned about getting banned from the game b/c I really could care less. I do enjoy this website but heh if I got banned I wouldn't die.
3. Like I said I did what I thought was right which was to tell what I did wrong.
4. I have personally apologized to lack.
5. It doesn't matter that I talked to them through MSN.
6. Yes I deleted Krusher off my list once he attacked me through cussing and harassment.
7. I did what was right.
8. It takes more strength and courage to tell the truth.
9. It's funny how you guys are making your own opinions without asking the people that were actually involved and how I told them the truth within hours after the game.

I know this is off topic but I got 1 question for you JR, when I asked you to team up with me so that we could climb the ranks higher how long did it take you to reply to me and were you not a christian back then with a conscious? were you drunk that day and your mind not work properly or did you just realize you weren't geting nothing out of the deal since I always won the games and decidet to rat me out to get all the harassment off your back? and no JR it does not take courage or strengh to snich on someone behind there backs and not tell the person what they did and then hide for 3 days from that person (Me), even though you were 100% in on it with me. You only sniched because you wanted to cut a better deal with the mods not to get striped of premiumship and not to have a score reset. You didn't do what was right, doing what was right would of been never having taken part with the secret alliances. and JR when you told the truth to that one game where they clearly called us out on it and you saw no way out other then come clean, but what happend to the other 15-20 games we played the 1-2 weeks before? did you tell those people the truth as well? (No because the other people didn't call him out on cheating.) last but not least You didnt tell them what you did wrong, you told them what I did wrong, never once did you mention your roll on our secret alliances.

krusher · Post by **krusher** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:30 pm

by the way I do believe that Beast has some roomates but I doubt they play as much as he tells people they do, so yes most of the time its him on the computer, of course neither side has any evidence for or against his roomates there is no way to prove they are real unless we actually go over to his place and see them so other then that we have to go by his word (which is not very good) or by our opinion which is most of the time slanted to one side.

Harijan · Post by **Harijan** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:38 pm

krusher wrote:by the way I do believe that Beast has some roomates but I doubt they play as much as he tells people they do, so yes most of the time its him on the computer, of course neither side has any evidence for or against his roomates there is no way to prove they are real unless we actually go over to his place and see them so other then that we have to go by his word (which is not very good) or by our opinion which is most of the time slanted to one side.

Or he could beat me at 9 out of 10 games in which he picks the map and rules. Another challenge he never met.

Harijan · Post by **Harijan** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:39 pm

Or he could report to me what games he is playing and I can verify or reject his claim. Which he said he would do, but then didnt.

scarface99x · Post by **scarface99x** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:04 pm

Ok so multiple people are playing on one account whats the big deal? So they split the cost. Its not like you can find out if someone else is playing or not. He could have said nothing and no one would have known. Honestly what idiot would question multiple people playing on one account?

Genghis Khan CA · Post by **Genghis Khan CA** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:11 pm

scarface99x wrote:Ok so multiple people are playing on one account whats the big deal? So they split the cost. Its not like you can find out if someone else is playing or not. He could have said nothing and no one would have known. Honestly what idiot would question multiple people playing on one account?

I suppose the issue is that it would be ripping off the site if say 5 people were playing unlimited games on one account rather than 5 people purchasing 5 premium accounts. It's no different to setting up multiple fremium accounts in that regard.

However, I think wilderbeast was challenged on this before and agreed that his "roommates" would not play more than 4 games at a time on the account, which the multi-hunters said would be ok (since that would be no different to them opening their own fremie accounts). I think that's right, but don't quote me on it

Risktaker17 · Post by **Risktaker17** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:12 pm

He may be annoying but he follows the rules.

JesusReigns · Post by **JesusReigns** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:13 pm

Krusher you have no Idea what ur talking about I made a mistake ok. And yes I was a Christian... Christians make mistakes and no we hadn't cheated but in one game.

donkeylove · Post by **donkeylove** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:14 pm

Wilderbeasts 'room mates' were accused of multis and I believe he knew he would be busted because they haven't played since - Aces and Selma

I'm sure Crimson Death was mentioned at the time aswell

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:29 pm

Every time I see Krusher post, I like him a little bit more.

In other news: JR just got called out as the hypocritical bitch that he is.

JesusReigns · Post by **JesusReigns** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:30 pm

No he's a plain flat liar. I haven't played 15-20 games with him not even close.

Harijan · Post by **Harijan** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:50 am

Hmm Jesus tells the truth...kindof

1180930 - doubles
1184469 - single
1184710 - triples
1185178 - single
1192358 - doubles
1203354 - single

Krusher won all of them.

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:42 am

Why would Krusher lie?

The fact that Krusher says JR has played 15-20 games with him, but that you can only find six, is conclusive proof that JR has at least one multi here.

Mods, I demand you immediately ban this odious Jesus chap.

Harijan · Post by **Harijan** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:06 am

dare we start a "down with Jesus campaign"?

That'll go over big.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:36 pm

Unless you're posting to present evidence on wilderbeast or any of his alleged multis that hasn't already been presented, please refrain from posting. Feel free to take your off-topic convo's elsewhere. Thanks.

GabonX · Post by **GabonX** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:13 am

More importantly than that I would like to know whether or not it is allowed to share a premium account. That's the question that needs to be answered.

If so I may take advantage of this, and if not Wilderbeast should be dealt with accordingly as he has admitted to sharing his account. This is the key issue that needs to be addressed by one of the mods.

There is also the not unlikely possibility that Wilderbeast lied about a great many things that he has said but if this is the case the price for his dishonesty should be to treat him as though he told the truth about his sharing. It would be far to easy to lie after the fact and say that he wasn't sharing the account when in actuality he was.

I certainly hope that the end result of this isn't that he and his room mates get special treatment, (that they are allowed to share an account while other paying members cannot) but it looks as though this may be the case. I am interested to see how this turns out.

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:37 am

Really depends what's in the Terms and Condition's when he signed up to CC!!

If it didnt mention anything about premium sharing then CC havent got a leg to stand on legally or ethically!

TheTrust · Post by **TheTrust** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:39 am

I think you are behind the times Gabon lol check the general thread page. Beast has decided to quit CC. (Appearantly he's not a fan of mods being pressured because they clear him). As for his room-mates, If they truly would be accused of having multiple accounts from 1 IP then I would understand whey they'd settle for just playing on 1 collective account.

I've read through some other threads too since Beast left... did you know that alot of people demanding a punishment be carried out against beast's room-mates are the same people that say he's lying and that they're fictional characters? :-s

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:44 am

JesusReigns wrote:Krusher you have no Idea what ur talking about I made a mistake ok. And yes I was a Christian... Christians make mistakes and no we hadn't cheated but in one game.

If you were a Christian, then by goodness you would dislike your username now :lol:

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:46 am

Anyway, what I think of this is - If wilderbeasts is letting other people play on his account, then each of them should pay for a years worth of premium as to how many actually play on that account. This way, the site gets the money that would be normally paid if all the people on wilderbeast's account didn't use his account.

Everyone happy? Good, now STFU about the whole thing.

iviv · Post by **iviv** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:39 pm

hulmey wrote:Really depends what's in the Terms and Condition's when he signed up to CC!!

If it didnt mention anything about premium sharing then CC havent got a leg to stand on legally or ethically!

They could just change the T&C, which would mean he couldn't continue what he's doing any more. It doesn't matter what they were when he signed up, just make every player sign the new copy when they next log in

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:29 pm

of course it matters!! if you sign up with a certain T&C, this cannot be changed until what you have bought has expired or run out!

GabonX · Post by **GabonX** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:23 pm

You're living in a fantasy hulmey. It's their site and they can do whatever they want whether or not we agree with it, end of story.

If they want to keep making money though, they should address the concerns of their paying customers...