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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby Dancing Mustard on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:03 pm

I'm afraid I agree with Wicked, stop posts in IK, FW, and Clans from counting. Then retrospectively slash our old postcounts down. It'll be a great change of scenery, and a whole load of us (inc. Me) will stop looking like such lifeless nerds.

Also it'll create whole new game, which I will call for the sake of convenience: "Spam the living f*ck out of all of the other forums while trying to make it look like you're actually contributing to boring Risk-Related discussions in order to boost your postcount to stratospheric heights"

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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby oggiss on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:13 pm

I really don't understand how you people think, what is the fucking difference if IK posts count or not. It's not as if affects your score if you have more posts or something. I Think it's cool to see how much you have posted etc. And I get most of my posts from forum games and intellegent konversation I would be at like 100 posts or so without them... and most of them from my "accused topic".

I think this is the worst decision Lack has ever done in cc.
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby wcaclimbing on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:18 pm

Dancing Mustard wrote:I'm afraid I agree with Wicked, stop posts in IK, FW, and Clans from counting. Then retrospectively slash our old postcounts down. It'll be a great change of scenery, and a whole load of us (inc. Me) will stop looking like such lifeless nerds.


And it will cut down on the "Dood ur all teh suck u hav no lyfe sit all day on teh internets all day long. go get a lyfe n stop bein so lame in teh internets!!!!1!!!one!!!!!!111!!!!" threads that we keep seeing. :roll:


You should block IK, FW, and Clans from counting to the post count. Include FW in the block, or unblock everything (like it used to be). FW has just as much trash (if not more) as IK does.
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby Fircoal on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:35 pm

Ditocoaf wrote:
hecter wrote:
Ditocoaf wrote:I was mostly just talking about why it can be okay for some posts not to be counted; I don't know anything about the FW forum (I've never posted there). I think the reason that it's still counted is that it's intended to be about the game, but if people aren't actually using it to argue about actual games as desired by the staff, then I guess it shouldn't be counted either.

Well, technically everything in there is about the game and/or it's players, but I just don't think that "*insert CC in general/dice/player name* is a *insert profanities* *insert descriptive and disgusting thing about sex*" really constitutes useful and helpful discussion that will help the site grow.

I also don't like the message that not counting posts in IK sends. In itself, it's a very trivial matter; post count doesn't actually mean anything. But it sends the message that IK is just some stupid spam board and that's all it's good for, rather than a place more like the cliched watercooler in an office, where you can go, hang out, chat about nothing or discuss important cultural topics, get some help with something (non-CC related), ect.

Well, I think the post count is designed to show your CC-related experience. Someone could join, not play a single game, not even know how to play, and discuss politics constantly in IK; this would give them a high post-count, but no knowledge of the game.

I'm not sure how well this concept will apply to this community, but in others, it's helped people know who to look to regarding game issues. People still use the off-topic forums for meaningful discourse, but that meaningful discourse could take place anywhere, and has no purpose to that website.

I can see two potentials for FW: What it is now (people insulting other people, trying to either shock readers, or make themselves look BA,), and what it was meant to be (a place to say, "you suck at playing CN, look at what you did in game 1234567!" and debate who plays the worst). The former definitely does not relate to the game; the second does. Using the rationale I mentioned above, then either FW should be regulated to game-realted trash talk, or FW posts shouldn't count. This is of course if the limited post-count stays in effect.


your rank is cook and you've won a total of 2 games out of 25. Impressive. And are you saying that some posts in the IK and forum games aren't part of the CC experience. The CC experience is the whole thing, not what you just deem as so.
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby Ditocoaf on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:47 pm

wicked wrote:I'd rather see getting rid of the FW post counts too, than allowing IK posts to count again.

I agree.
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby 0ojakeo0 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:49 pm

Why dont you just leave IK alone? Give us our own mods own rules and own post count.

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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby timmytuttut88 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:51 pm

Ditocoaf wrote:
wicked wrote:I'd rather see getting rid of the FW post counts too, than allowing IK posts to count again.

I agree.


not the point.

why shouldnt the posts count? There is absolutely no rhyme or reason. These are the only things im getting:

you say it will prevent spamming:then spam will go to GD

you say it isnt risk related:forums dont have to be risk related. What website have you been to where if you post something not related to the site it doesnt count towards post count.
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Postby Snorri1234 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:52 pm

timmytuttut88 wrote:
Ditocoaf wrote:Well, I think the post count is designed to show your CC-related experience. Someone could join, not play a single game, not even know how to play, and discuss politics constantly in IK; this would give them a high post-count, but no knowledge of the game.

they could post a lot in FW too and even tournament games. What knowledge of how to play the game does that give them?


Better yet, if I resorted to taking shots at Johnyrocket after every post he makes I'd get a high postcount too. This would give me no knowledge of the game but would show I think I'm hilarious.
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby oggiss on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:54 pm

If you don't want spam, maybe remove the big spam threads like NSFW and spamalot ^^
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby Ditocoaf on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:55 pm

Fircoal wrote:your rank is cook and you've won a total of 2 games out of 25. Impressive.

Really... what does that have to do with anything? I suck at CC in-game. I've never played risk before in my life. Don't just call me a n00b, argue against what I said. While I may be new here, and poor at the game, I've been a longtime member of 4-5 forums, and a new (or on-and-off) member of a few more.
And are you saying that some posts in the IK and forum games aren't part of the CC experience. The CC experience is the whole thing, not what you just deem as so.
I'm not talking about "the CC experience," I'm talking about experience. I'm talking about whether you can ask someone how the Foundry process works; I'm talking about who's discussed in-game strategy the most; I'm talking about who knows the most about the tons of suggestions that get dumped here each day. While I love IK and especially the Forum Games section, and all the people I talk to there, that stuff could take place on any website, and has nothing to do with Conquer Club, the game. It has to do with the CC website experience, but the purpose of this website is the game, and the off-topic discussion is an added, irrelevant bonus.

(and btw, just because I'm arguing and sound angry, don't think I hate you. A strange personality trait of mine is that I only argue with people I respect; people I don't respect or like, I ignore.)
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby timmytuttut88 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:56 pm

oggiss wrote:maybe remove the big spam threads like spamalot ^^


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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby timmytuttut88 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:59 pm

Ditocoaf wrote: I'm not talking about "the CC experience," I'm talking about experience. I'm talking about whether you can ask someone how the Foundry process works; I'm talking about who's discussed in-game strategy the most; I'm talking about who knows the most about the tons of suggestions that get dumped here each day. While I love IK and especially the Forum Games section, and all the people I talk to there, that stuff could take place on any website, and has nothing to do with Conquer Club, the game. It has to do with the CC website experience, but the purpose of this website is the game, and the off-topic discussion is an added, irrelevant bonus.


thats exactly why we have a Q&A forum. To help out noobies. if your saying the point of the forum is to help n00bs ur wrong. The point of the forum is just to talk to people who happen to also like risk.
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby Fircoal on Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:08 pm

Ditocoaf wrote:
Fircoal wrote:your rank is cook and you've won a total of 2 games out of 25. Impressive.

Really... what does that have to do with anything? I suck at CC in-game. I've never played risk before in my life. Don't just call me a n00b, argue against what I said. While I may be new here, and poor at the game, I've been a longtime member of 4-5 forums, and a new (or on-and-off) member of a few more.
And are you saying that some posts in the IK and forum games aren't part of the CC experience. The CC experience is the whole thing, not what you just deem as so.
I'm not talking about "the CC experience," I'm talking about experience. I'm talking about whether you can ask someone how the Foundry process works; I'm talking about who's discussed in-game strategy the most; I'm talking about who knows the most about the tons of suggestions that get dumped here each day. While I love IK and especially the Forum Games section, and all the people I talk to there, that stuff could take place on any website, and has nothing to do with Conquer Club, the game. It has to do with the CC website experience, but the purpose of this website is the game, and the off-topic discussion is an added, irrelevant bonus.

(and btw, just because I'm arguing and sound angry, don't think I hate you. A strange personality trait of mine is that I only argue with people I respect; people I don't respect or like, I ignore.)


(na, it's ok, arguments can be that way. I don't hate you either, just trying to state my point. ;) )

So I have, I've probably been a member for a while of many more forums. It's more that you're saying about the CC experience when from I've seen you don't know that much about. It takes longer then you've been here to probably know it all.

And it couldn't all happen on another forum. We all came here for a reason. We are all alike in that we signed up to this game. And now some of us met and like to discuss things. Does it matter if someone discusses strats, or knows how the foundry works? Even if so, posts can and never will show that.
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby Snorri1234 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:09 pm

Ditocoaf wrote:
Fircoal wrote:your rank is cook and you've won a total of 2 games out of 25. Impressive.

Really... what does that have to do with anything? I suck at CC in-game. I've never played risk before in my life. Don't just call me a n00b, argue against what I said. While I may be new here, and poor at the game, I've been a longtime member of 4-5 forums, and a new (or on-and-off) member of a few more.

It proves that you suck at the game, which means any advice from you isn't the best no matter your post count.
In fact, the rank underneath your name is already enough to determine if you're a good player and your advice is usefull. You don't need to look at the post count.

I'm talking about whether you can ask someone how the Foundry process works;

What guarantee do you have that a person with a high postcount will tell you the truth? In fact, I know how the foundry works and I haven't posted there a lot.
I'm talking about who's discussed in-game strategy the most;

People who talk about that.
I'm talking about who knows the most about the tons of suggestions that get dumped here each day.

People who make it clear every time you post a suggestion that it has already been posted.
While I love IK and especially the Forum Games section, and all the people I talk to there, that stuff could take place on any website, and has nothing to do with Conquer Club, the game. It has to do with the CC website experience, but the purpose of this website is the game, and the off-topic discussion is an added, irrelevant bonus.

Actually, I'd say that the IK and forum games sections make for a way better community and have to do with the site.


Anyway, the problem solved itself before because the people who posted in IK weren't the people who posted in GD for the most part. People like Owenshooter, JR and Blitzaholic rarely set foot in IK, and heavycola, neoteny and me (to name a few) rarely set foot in GD. You're arguing against a problem that doesn't exist.
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby oggiss on Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:19 pm

timmytuttut88 wrote:
oggiss wrote:maybe remove the big spam threads like spamalot ^^


i hate you



That more an argument against the mods here ;)
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby timmytuttut88 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:20 pm

oggiss wrote:
timmytuttut88 wrote:
oggiss wrote:maybe remove the big spam threads like spamalot ^^


i hate you



That more an argument against the mods here ;)


i was joking anyway
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby oggiss on Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:29 pm

timmytuttut88 wrote:spamalot ^^






i was joking anyway[/quote][/quote]




j/k

Well, let's try to get this damn protestlist BIGGER!
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby wcaclimbing on Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:31 pm

oggiss wrote:
timmytuttut88 wrote:
oggiss wrote:maybe remove the big spam threads like spamalot ^^


i hate you



That more an argument against the mods here ;)

Spamalots the spam vacuum.
All the spam ends up in there. See those 46,224 posts in the Spamalot thread in IK? would you rather have them kept in the spamalot thread, or have all of them sprinkled over the rest of the forums?

There have been quite a few "spammers" that have gone right into spamalot and not bothered the rest of the forums. There would be a lot more spam if Spamalot wasn't around.
(and if you remember what happened last time a mod tried to delete Spamalot, it didn't end well. Pretty much the entire forum exploded into a huge debate for a week... I doubt anyone would want that to happen again :wink: )
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby Neoteny on Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:37 pm

Snorri! It's dangerous to go alone! Take this!

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Am I using spam in an argument about spam?

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Why, yes, I am. And I conclude my argument as such: semantics, semantics, character denunciation, lol u suk at risk, lol u hav stoopid posts, lmao rofl rofl Owenshooter is teh awsomer contributor than me...

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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby hecter on Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:32 pm

Ditocoaf wrote:Well, I think the post count is designed to show your CC-related experience. Someone could join, not play a single game, not even know how to play, and discuss politics constantly in IK; this would give them a high post-count, but no knowledge of the game.

I'm not sure how well this concept will apply to this community, but in others, it's helped people know who to look to regarding game issues. People still use the off-topic forums for meaningful discourse, but that meaningful discourse could take place anywhere, and has no purpose to that website.

I can see two potentials for FW: What it is now (people insulting other people, trying to either shock readers, or make themselves look BA,), and what it was meant to be (a place to say, "you suck at playing CN, look at what you did in game 1234567!" and debate who plays the worst). The former definitely does not relate to the game; the second does. Using the rationale I mentioned above, then either FW should be regulated to game-realted trash talk, or FW posts shouldn't count. This is of course if the limited post-count stays in effect.

There's a big ol' problem there... See, you didn't notice the Brawl Hall invasion as you never post in FW. Basically...
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby hecter on Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:32 pm

wicked wrote:I'd rather see getting rid of the FW post counts too, than allowing IK posts to count again.

I don't care which, but I believe that one of the two has to happen.
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby Joodoo on Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:38 pm

I'm gonna promote the petition in the under 18 clan forums
spread the word to your clan too ppl!
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby reminisco on Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:38 pm

honestly...

if the IK posts not counting for your post count is the worst thing that ever happens to you in your entire life, you'll have a wonderful fucking life.






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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby timmytuttut88 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:43 pm

reminisco wrote:honestly...

if the IK posts not counting for your post count is the worst thing that ever happens to you in your entire life, you'll have a wonderful fucking life.






(and seriously, who cares?)

we thinks its stupid to restrict posts since itll only promote spam in other threads and forums. Its not a matter of post count. (or atleast not to me)
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Re: WE WANT IK POSTS TO COUNT

Postby Neoteny on Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:44 pm

reminisco wrote:honestly...

if the IK posts not counting for your post count is the worst thing that ever happens to you in your entire life, you'll have a wonderful fucking life.






(and seriously, who cares?)


I don't have any other causes at the moment. Politics in the IK is dead currently.
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